tipping

Just wanted to add my own thoughts here - IcyDog pointed this thread out on the DVC board.

It is not customary to ever add a service charge except in the case of a large party. However, having waited tables throughout grad school, I can tell you, it is a major frustration to have customers who were unfamiliar with tipping practice. Waitstaff make almost nothing - they are paid almost entirely by tips in the US. This is not the case in most European countries. I was in New York City when I was waiting tables, so we had a LOT of international traffic, and it would be very frustrating to wait on a table who were perhaps wonderful, and would have gladly tipped correctly if they had known, but then not receive any tip or a 3% tip or something. So I can understand WHY it might happen, but I always thought it was insulting to the customer, and so was never comfortable doing it. There is no other way to tell them, though, unless as IcyDog said, they publish schedules or print it in the menu. I think the restaurants need to take the responsibility for this, but still, any way you do it, you are likely to offend someone. I am also sure this is a bigger problem in Orlando than it is in other parts of the country, because it would also have a lot of international tourism.

I will also say that the tips for table service in larger metro areas tend to be higher - if I had received a 15% tip, I would have assumed that the customer had not felt my service was very good - maybe not bad, but not good either. 10% would be pretty insulting (again, I don't think this is true more rural areas of the US). 20% was much more customary. But I would have also thought 15% was a very good tip from a European. And I understand that there would be real sticker shock (shock at the final price) if you weren't used to tipping. It is also frustrating if you receive poor service, and know that if you tip poorly, they will likely assume it was because you didn't know how much to tip instead of because of their poor service.

On the other side, I've had the reverse happen to me in several countries in Europe. I have had many, many waitstaff be somewhat upset with me because I knew the tipping practices in the area and tipped accordingly. When they heard MY accent, they expected a giant tip, and weren't very happy about not getting an "American" tip.
 
Okay - I'm in hijack mode......

I'm doing the Keys to the Kingdom and Segway tour on my next trip - would you be expected to tip staff involved in these tours?
 
maleficent_man said:
Okay - I'm in hijack mode......

I'm doing the Keys to the Kingdom and Segway tour on my next trip - would you be expected to tip staff involved in these tours?
No it would not be expected and probably not accepted. These folks make a good living. Waitresses on the other hand are not even paid minimum wage. When I was a waitress, albeit a long time ago, I earned a dollar less than minumum wage. I lived on my tips and so do all waitresses and waiters, valets etc. A tip is customary for services like hairdressers, barbers and shoe shine people. In fact if you didn't leave a tip for a beautician you can be sure she won't be your beautician for long.
 

posted by kpfran

a very big thankyou to you all for your information and help.

we are staying at the Port Orleans Riverside and correct me if i am wrong but from what you are all saying, if i use Boatwrights i give a tip ,whereas as planned if we mostly have breakfasts in the Riverside Mill counter service food hall we are not expected to tip.

regards Kevin

Kevin - you are correct.

Having spent most of my university days working in food service here in the states, here is the "Average" tipping strategy.

If you do all the work - order your food at a counter, pay a cashier, pick up your food, fill your own drinks, etc. No tip is expected.

If you are waited on at a table, then go to a buffet to get your food, the wait staff keeps your drinks filled, and takes your money to the cashier for payment for you and buses your table - typical a 10% tip is acceptable.

As for full service resturants. 15 - 20% is expected depending on how "upscale" the establishment is.


I too find it distressing that Miami and Orlando adding the gratutity automatically to patron's bills. Thank you to the OP for pointing this out so our British visitors are aware of this new trend.
 
This is a very interesting thread. We are Australian & have been to the U.S.A a few times now. I can also add that we have been charged the service fee automatically (& we have never had more than 5 in our group). For quite a while we did not even realise this unfortunately (our fault, we just never checked the bill closely enough). Now I am not saying all places do this of course but enough that when I found out some friends were going over for the first time soon, this was one of the first things that I told them about - do not double up on the tip. (Please don't have a go at me, I do not have anything against tipping - I just don't want to do it twice for the one meal!) It never even occured to me before reading this thread though that it wasn't a common practice, I had just asumed it was the way things were done & we just hadn't known about it before. Now that I know to look out for it, it is not a big deal but I hate to think how many "double'' tips we left over the years!
 
aussiemickeys said:
Now I am not saying all places do this of course but enough that when I found out some friends were going over for the first time soon, this was one of the first things that I told them about - do not double up on the tip. (Please don't have a go at me, I do not have anything against tipping - I just don't want to do it twice for the one meal!) It never even occured to me before reading this thread though that it wasn't a common practice, I had just asumed it was the way things were done & we just hadn't known about it before. Now that I know to look out for it, it is not a big deal but I hate to think how many "double'' tips we left over the years!

Okay, I yield
awatt said:
We own a home in South Beach, Miami and yes majority of restaurants do automatically charge a gratuity. It is stated on the menu. This is done because of a large European clientele that is not accustomed to tipping, so the waitstaff does not get stiffed the majority of time.
 
aussiemickeys said:
Now I am not saying all places do this of course but enough that when I found out some friends were going over for the first time soon, this was one of the first things that I told them about - do not double up on the tip. (Please don't have a go at me, I do not have anything against tipping - I just don't want to do it twice for the one meal!) It never even occured to me before reading this thread though that it wasn't a common practice, I had just asumed it was the way things were done & we just hadn't known about it before. Now that I know to look out for it, it is not a big deal but I hate to think how many "double'' tips we left over the years!



Okay, I yield. This was posted on the US DVC site :blush:

awatt said:
We own a home in South Beach, Miami and yes majority of restaurants do automatically charge a gratuity. It is stated on the menu. This is done because of a large European clientele that is not accustomed to tipping, so the waitstaff does not get stiffed the majority of time.
 
Hi,
On our recent trip to Orlando, we ate in the following places where a tip of 15% was automatically added:

Black Angus (on 192 at Econolodge)
Tradewinds (resort restaurant at Bahama Bay)
Cattlemans Steakhouse (just off 192 somewhere)

I think there were others too but they are the only 3 I'm 100% sure about. We were not notified of this before we ate (although Cattleman's did state on the menu that gratuity would be added for parties of 6 or more- there were only 2 of us and they added it anyway!). I didn't mind as we would have tipped anyway, however I was a bit worried about what would happen if we'd received bad service and didn't want to pay 15%. In addition to this, Cattlemans printed the "15% gratuity" bit on the bill, followed by another line underneath saying "tip....." with a space for us to fill in a further amount! This REALLY confused us! We started wondering whether "gratuity" and "tip" are two different things....!? I guess 15% is the minimum expected and the option is there if you want to leave more.

However the food at Cattlemans was delicious and I'd eat there again any time no matter how confusing the bill-paying process is! :)
 
Some reataurants charge teh 15% automacally, thenthere is also a line on the reciept in case you want to add more. Since 15% is for adequate to good service, we typically tip 20% or more for service that is better. So we often fill in that line with an extra amount.
 
Had several trips to Florida, Orlando, Gulf Coast etc. never had gratuity added even with a party of 7 :)
 
Had several trips to Florida, Orlando, Gulf Coast etc. never had gratuity added even with a party of 7 :)
 
DH forgot that the massuese's tip was included in the bill at Disney and tipped again generously (what can I say, he was in post-massage delirium!). I imagine that Susan adores him!
 
We have visited Orlando regularly for over 20 years and have noticed that although the suggested percentage for tipping has remained the same (only the actual prices have gone up), many more locations are adding the tip to the final bill. (Is this because people think we Scottish folk are greedy? :rotfl: )

As long ago as 1999, we had this happen at Ming Court on I-Drive and my mum didn't notice so we left a good tip. Once back to our hotel, we discovered the error but we would have left extra $$ anyway as the service was outstanding. We returned to Ming Court in 2002 and I think the tip was applied to the final bill again, but found the service to be still of a very high standard, so the additional tips for our servers were not grudged!

I agree too - some locations mention the addition of gratuities for parties over 6/8 people but have actually added tips to our bill - party of 4!

My parents were also subjected to an off-putting experience at China in Epcot because of a waitress asking for her tip as they were getting ready to leave. When she returned with their credit card receipt, she was angry they hadn't added her "payment" to the bill as she had expected. Shame for her that she hadn't smiled sweetly and waited a few seconds before opening her mouth as they were waiting with cash to give her upon her return!

My "tip" is, always check your bill before paying and always tip your server well for good service!
 












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