Tipping out of control?

Does tipping get out of control?

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the only thing about not tipping or tipping lots less( except for bad service) is because the the owners of the rest. have gotten away with getting the public to pay their employees...to bad i cn't tell my guys i'll pay them below min.wage and they can get tips for the rest! so the whole set up is wrong...which is why i tip good servers well but no longer am i tipping 20%for lousy service..i don't expect much, just hot food on time,check to make sure everything is ok with a smile and more drink if i run out

and the Mc D /counter service tip jar thing is ridiculous. tip them to turn around and pull it out of a bin and put it in a bag/on a tray????...no way
 
In defense of tipping (I CANNOT believe I am defending a portion of tipping :rolleyes: )

I really don't mind tipping at meals. That way, if the service is bad I have some sort of repercussion. If the waiters/waitresses were paid by the restaurant as if they got no tips (higher salary in other words), 2 things would happen.

1. The price of the meals would be a lot more expensive

2. You may or may not get good service.

At least now when I don't get good service I refuse to tip the usual. I will go down to 1% if it is really horrible.

I remember at HRH we got the breakfast buffet and the tip was automatically added to the check prior to seating. I was so angry at the poor service and HAD to tip the guy without any choice in the matter.

I just don't appreciate the greed that some have, (as I mentioned before) like when they just load your luggage onto a rack and expect something. When more than likely that job is shared with the job of delivering the luggage to the room, where they actually do deserve a tip.
 
I can't help but join in on this thread.

I have no problem tipping individuals working in tipping positions (waiters, bellman, etc) but I absolutely refuse to tip people working in traditional paid positions. I have NEVER received a tip in my life from my customers. In fact, if they offered me a tip, I would refuse (I think my company would view this as a bribe and I could be fired for accepting).

If Disney or any other hotels intended their housekeeping staff to be tipped, they would include a billing method for guests to use like they do for restaurants. I wonder if the housekeepers that receive tips report them to the IRS?

Tipping should be viewed as a method of compensating someone for their job. So, I tip those positions accordingly.

Tipping is not charity for low paying jobs. Do you tip the cleaning service at your office? 7-11 clerk? It is not something extra for someone doing their job. Do you tip your plumber? Dry cleaner?I view it more like a commission position. In my position, I take a lower salary with the ability to earn commission. This is how I view waiters, lower wage in exchange for tips (or in their case almost no wage). It is simply a risk reward position. If they do a good job, they can make a lot of money. If they do a poor job, they may not make any. Of course, I have tipped well even when the service was bad (maybe I shouldn't?? Hmmm). What about the times when a waiter does a good job and doesn't make a good tip? The same thing that happens to me, I get over it and work harder the next time. In the long run, good waiters make more money. Of course, bad waiters don't do to bad either with business travelers like myself that usually tip regardless, groups of 6 more, etc.

I am also someone that often is in a larger group (6+) and I am very insulted when they had the 15% to the check. In fact, when they do so, I rarely add any additional tip. Too bad for them, as I usually tip around 20% or more. Worse, is the waiters that knows the individual double tipped, not seeing the 15% was already added. In my opinion, this practice should be against the law or establishment should not be permitted to collect any additional tip on that transaction.

If you feel someone has gone out of the way to do something for you (housekeeping, etc.), use the comment card or talk to a manager. On the contrary, if I don't get the service I expect from a non-tipping position, I am going to call and complain.

If anyone still feels the need to tip, I work in the telecom industry. I work for a large international fiber network provider. There is a very good chance that some of your IP traffic from web surfing travels on this network. Feel free to send me some cash around the holidays (or any other time!!). As you may know, the economy has been tough for telecom, so tip big!! No cute envelopes necessary. PM me and I'll send you my PayPal info.
 
Gotta ask for a huge tip from my boss now... after all, I'm doing exactly what I got paid to do ;)
 

The tip cup at McDonalds is hilarious! I would LOVE to see that, I have a lot of tips I could give them! :p
 
Originally posted by thelittlemermaid
LOL!!! I am the same way! Since we have gotten back from our first WDW trip, I told him what ever money I find in his pockets goes in the change jar for our next trip. He has been trying to remember to check his pockets, but that didn't last. The biggest amount I have found in DH's pockets has been $20. I would love to find $50, but then would be asking all kinds of questions on why he had so much. DH is really into fish keeping so I have to control on how much he spends on that.
My DH does work on the side (painting cars, fixing dents, etc...) so their was no question as where it came from. He actually had $100 more that he took out of his pockets and set on the counter for me. When I told him about the $50, he thought it was folded inside the other bill and didn't realize it fell out. Oh well, it all went into the bank regardless. I just thought it was funny and thanked him for my BIG tip for the day.
 
Originally posted by Lewisc
BTW Disney doesn't consider housekeeping a "tipped" position. Tips are accepted but not required. The vast majority of people (up to 70%) don't tip housekeeping in hotels.

I agree that Disney does not consider mousekeeping a tipped position (for some reason which I do not agree with), however, I totally disagree that 70% do not tip housekeeping in hotels.

I have always tipped housekeeping and everyone I know does too. I've even stayed at hotels with special envelopes to put the tips in with the housekeeper's name on it.

I tip mousekeeping and I always will. To each his own.

Out of hand is at Universal when they try to get you to tip the guy that parks your car, the guy that walks your luggage into the lobby, and then the guy that actually brings it to your room.
Disney isn't quite as bad or pushy as Universal was in that regard.

I also do not like seeing tip cups at counter service places but I do tip them when it's Christmas time.

I also don't like getting an envelope for tipping from my FREE local newspaper that comes once a week whether I want it or not.

I do give my mail man money at Christmas too but I guess that's not really a tip.

BUT I do not think tipping is out of hand at WDW. Seems just fine to me.
 
Originally posted by beattyfamily
I agree that Disney does not consider mousekeeping a tipped position (for some reason which I do not agree with), however, I totally disagree that 70% do not tip housekeeping in hotels.

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The 70% figure came from an article in the travel section of the NY Times about a year ago. I was surprised, I generally tip housekeeping. I'd say your friends aren't typical.
 
Originally posted by totalia
The fact that a man was arrested for not tipping is just so utterly stupid there are no words to describe it.

I hope that case gets thrown out of court.

He wasn't literally arrested for not tipping, although that makes for an interesting article.

The restaurant had a mandatory service charge of 18% for parties of of that size. Presumably this charge was included in check. The person would have been arrested for not paying the check in full. A customer doesn't really have the right to pay less than the bill. Most auto repair shops break out the labor and parts. A customer doesn't have the right to unilaterally discount the labor portion of the bill.

The question is if the customer was notified in advance of the service charge. In this case the charge was listed in the menu the only question is how far people want to go in pursuing a claim for a small sum of money.
 
If you feel tipping is out of hand, park your own car and carry your own luggage.
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As a side note- I used to be a server at a really upscale golf course, we had a restaurant and did lots of business parties and weddings... Parties of 8 or more included an 17.5% gratuity. Whenever I had one of these tables and I would present the check I would always make a point of saying, "Our computer already added 17.5% gratuity." I ALWAYS with no exeptions was tipped above the 18%. I think people appreciated my honesty. Some of my co-workers were not so up-front and although they probably were double tipped sometimes by mistake I think customer's who figured it out on their own were not likely to leave anything exeeding the mandatory tip.
 
Originally posted by CheapMom
If you feel tipping is out of hand, park your own car and carry your own luggage.

Yup! I try to do everything myself as much as I can.
Can't serve my own food though :p
 
Originally posted by FatCow
Yup! I try to do everything myself as much as I can.
Can't serve my own food though :p

Sure you can. Fast food, food court, buffet or even take out from a restaurant.
 
My gripe is the hairdresser. Now, I can see if she is renting a station from someone else and does all the work. My hairdresser owns the salon and raises the fee every year. Still everyone still tips. Then there's the hair washer, hair colorist and sometimes someone else blows it dry. To get my 7 yr olds bangs cut it's $14.00 and my cut (without styling) is $29.00, add 10% onto that and a couple bucks for eeveryone else and it's just too much for every six weeks. I have tried to cut DD's hair and just don't have the talent!!!
 
Originally posted by CheapMom
ceecee- I hate to tell you this but I think it is supposed to be 20%.

CP said the owner is cutting her hair. You're really not required to tip the owner in a hair salon, 10% is more than fair.
 
Originally posted by Lewisc
Sure you can. Fast food, food court, buffet or even take out from a restaurant.

tee hee, you know that I mean that I can't serve my own food at a restaurant.

The problem is, even for buffet restaurant, the attendant still expect tips! :rolleyes: (the only time you saw any of them 'serving' you is when they put a jug of water and when they hand you the bill)
 
I am a waitress and have been in the food business most of my life, as a manager in restaurants for many years and then as a waitress for the last 20years. One of my joys while at Disney is tipping for service recieved and since it is how I make my living I am more than generous. Way back with the original post, I can see how if you do not plan on the tips portion of your budget, it would be easy to be resentful. It adds up quickly....for our 18 day trip this past spring we budgeted almost $700 just for tips and that does not include the dining or spa tips. I make envelopes for each tipping situation (not including dining since that is relative to the cost of the meal).Before leaving for WDW, I go to the bank for small bills to portion out all this tip money, curbside checkin, turndown service, maids, valet, bell service,airport shuttle drivers and then any various items brought to our room. Anything left over goes back into the ING account for the next WDW trip.Having the envelopes and decorating them for WDW makes it a little fun and takes all the stress out of tipping!! It was also a great way to spend a few hours during the long, cold Cape Cod winter waiting for our trip.....figuring out all the tips needed and then the cash to get from the bank.I know, us Dis'ers are a sick lot!!!
 
Originally posted by totalia
I hate the practice of tipping for anything. The person is doing the job they were hired for. Why should they be tipped for doing their job?

But what is the most annoying is that its expected. Now you have to tip whether they gave you exceptional service or not. And I think the tipping amount is far too high.

I tip ONLY for exceptional service and even then, I will NOT tip 10%. Thats very high in any case. You get some of the change in my pocket.

Plus, I want to smack some of the girls I work with. They actually have the nerve to complain when they don't get a tip. I don't get tips and yet I serve the customers too. You don't DESERVE a tip just because you served someone.

True, it's at your discretion to tip. But remember, that waiters only are paid 1/2 of minimum wage, the rest they make it tips. Their's is the only job that's legal for employers to pay less than the minimum wage. So when you stiff the waiter, their getting paid next to nothing for working.

Now, it's true that it's not your fault the restaurant doesn't pay the servers full wages, but don't punish the worker, they didn't make the rules. And of course, never tip for truely bad service, even I did that once!
 
Originally posted by totalia
I hate the practice of tipping for anything. The person is doing the job they were hired for. Why should they be tipped for doing their job?

But what is the most annoying is that its expected. Now you have to tip whether they gave you exceptional service or not. And I think the tipping amount is far too high.

I tip ONLY for exceptional service and even then, I will NOT tip 10%. Thats very high in any case. You get some of the change in my pocket.


Unfortunately you have it backwards. If the person is doing the job they were hired to do then they should be paid for doing it.

Some jobs are "tipped" positions. The employer is allowed to pay less than minimum wage because TIPS ARE THE SOURCE of their income.

Sorry but when you fail to tip YOU ARE EXPECTING THE PERSON TO WORK for free in serving you.

In any event 10% is a VERY LOW TIP not very high.
 

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