Tipping out of control?

[wdisneyaholic]

Is it me or maybe I am crazy about having to tip for everything.

First let me say I know that the people in these jobs rely on those tips because, I am assuming, they do not make much money for the actual job. I don't even know how much to tip people. It just seems that tipping gets out of control sometimes. First you have to tip they guy who takes you bags out of the car, then you have to tip the guy that parks your car, then you tip the guy that takes your bags to your room because sometimes it is not the guy who takes them out of your car. Then lets say you go to dinner at a different hotel so you have to tip the guy that brings you your car and maybe want to valet because you are on vacation, so you have to tip the guy who parks your car. You eat dinner and tip your waiter and then tip the valet to get your car and then tip the valet at you hotel. Assuming you valet at your hotel. Then you get up the next morning and have to tip you mousekeeper. It really adds up.

I know I should budget these things in for my trip but I never think about it until I am standing there and realize I have no dollar bills to had the baggage guy.

On the housekeeping side, I kinda look at it if I have to pay over $200 a night for a room I shouldn't have to tip for housekeeping service, although I always do tip. Mousekeeping at the YC in July was FANTASTIC to me and I would have felt guilty for not tipping.

Just looking for your thoughts on this subject. And let me say I do tip and tip well for good service. It is just one of those things that I ponder over.

Thanks

 

[momxx5]

I have had too many jobs in various service areas and know what it is like to be at the mercy of those who tip. I am the type that would give 110% to my job and was very grateful for those who showed their appreciation.

A tip along the way is a great way to show appreciation and sometimes I look at it in a citizenship way - kind like pixie dust to the server.

 

[Lewisc]

Yes BUT NOT FOR ANY OF THE REASONS you posted. Car valets, bellhops and waiters HAVE ALWAYS been tipped positions. Sorry but that's part of the cost of your vacation and you should always make sure you bring enough singles and fives for tipping. The alternative to tipping would be to have a service fee added to your restaurant bill and an increased fee for valet parking.

BTW Disney doesn't consider housekeeping a "tipped" position. Tips are accepted but not required. The vast majority of people (up to 70%) don't tip housekeeping in hotels.

Seeing tip cups at fast food restaurants, dunkin donuts and Starbucks is where tipping is getting out of hand. Those are not "tipped" positions.

 

[vettechick99]

What's annoying to me is when those you tip don't even thank you! It's obnoxious and rude!

 

[MAC3]

I don't have problems tipping people for services.

What irritates me is @ a "non-Disney hotel" when you tip the guy who puts your luggage on the rack to bring it to your room and then when your luggage shows up it's a different guy delivering it. SO you feel obligated to tip him because he's actually the guy who brought it to you. I feel like saying the smuck downstairs took your tip. But I know it's not his fault.


So now I bring in my own luggage.

 

[Gaiusrex]

It does seem like everyone has their hand out these days.

I just wish people could be paid a fair and equitable wage for the work they perform and do away with the whole tipping business.

Do I reall need to tip the guy that takes my golf clubs off the cart and cleans them with a dirty rag. I can do that myself, but I get dirty looks for doing it.

 

[canwegosoon]

Totally agree with all of the above posters, except the OP (sorry), I do not feet tipping is out of control at WDW. That is one of the few places you will see no tip jars anywhere. As to the guys taking the luggage out of the trunk of the car, I was told by one of them...."No thanks, only tip the porter that brings the bags to the room". I have always tipped a couple of bucks a day for mousekeeping, and have had wonderful service. As to the valet question I always have a problem do you tip the drop off guy or the pick up guy?

As to other tipping spots...I do not tip the counter service. They are paid a regular wage, and the cup is BS.

Lewisc as to the golf guy I think they are tip dependent like a waitress/waiter, but would love to know for sure. I tip the hairdresser, but still can't figure out why people tip the shampoo girl....her job is to facilitate the customers for the cutter freeing the cutter to cut more hair. The cutter is susposed to take care of the shampoo girl. The other tipping is crazy too...but I do give my postal clerk a little something at holiday time...usually a cert. to Dunkin DOughnuts.

Thant's just my opinion...and I am a little

 

[Angel16]

Originally posted by vettechick99
What's annoying to me is when those you tip don't even thank you! It's obnoxious and rude!

Boy, do I agree with you. I do not understand why some people can be given something and not thank the person who gave it to them. However, I see this in numerous situations in life.

 

[Chesire]

I have never worked in a tipping prefession, but I think its really out of hand. I always tip waitress's, valet, etc ... but I agree, the starbucks "tip" cup is over doing it!

My husband has worked in a tipping job since he was 15 (so we DO have a little different opinion ...) and he even thinks it has gotten out of hand. He only tips "normal" tipping jobs, but he does tip very well (25% and up).

As to another poster. My husband is a valet runner and he says most people tip when picking up the car, but some will tip when dropping it off as well. He doesn't mind the people who don't tip but the "I'll get you next time" is what bugs him the most.

Just my 2 cents

 

[wdisneyaholic]

Hey, don't get wrong, I believe that you should tip to those who have a job in the tipping profession. I also agree that there are people out there that expect a tip regardless of the job they do. I am also not saying just Disney it could be any place. I guess I am looking at it like do I need to tip everyone that touches my bags or car? Do I have to tip you if you only take 2 bags out of my car and put them on the valet cart? I would rather give the guy who actually brings my stuff to my room more of a tip.

I am not complaining about tipping but what is the correct way to tip? Do you tip the valet to park your car? or tip the valet who brings your car? or both? And I have always had exceptional service at Disney and definately tip accordingly. I know people rely on those tips to make a living.

It just seems to me that everywhere you go you could be tipping. The guy that wipes your seat off at the baseball or football game, the coffee shop, etc. I guess I was thinking of the WHOLE tipping not just at Disney.

 

[Raggedy]

I remember being 13 years old. I was a chamber maid at a Holiday Inn. I looked forward getting tips. But when i started to go to my rooms the main housekeeper (my boss) Would always beat us to our rooms to strip the beds. guess what, there were never tips in those rooms ever. They used to strip the rooms, but leave all the sheets and towels by the door. Some people would look for us to tip us in person.

I try to tip the mousekeepers in person. I don't get to all the time and i will leave it in the rooms.

 

[Lollipop Mom]

What's annoying to me is when those you tip don't even thank you! It's obnoxious and rude!

Boy do I agree with that! The worst I've seen was on my honeymoon. My husband and I did a 10 day cruise. We had fantastic service on the ship and tipped well above the recommended amount for it. On departure day we got off the ship and went to the area we were told to go to and get our luggage. There we were met by a porter who told us "you give me my tip first, then I get the bags." We were TOTALLY taken aback by that. We had 2 bags we were picking up and my husband had tipped $10 to the porters before the cruise. He gave this guy $3. The guy sort of scoffed at us and DH said "had you not been so rude it would have been more."

 

[Disbug]

to tipping being an incentive for great service? I remember a time that a tip was not automatic... You tipped or withheld your gratuity based on the level of service you received... I know I am especially irritated to find an 18 - 20% gratuity is to be added to my bill because I have 6 or more people in my party. Well, let me tell ya! When a waiter KNOWS he is guaranteed that much, he does not have to bust his behind to be attentive! (I have that problem at a local restaurant, and would never go there if not for it being a favorite with my children... LOL!)

So, how do we get back this control, unless we just stop tipping carte blanche.... and start tipping for exemplary service. Anybody else with me here?

 

[mommytotwo]

My DH works at a job that he gets tipped at. Everyone puts their tips in a jar and at the end of their shift, the money gets split between the ones that were working. He gets paid very little so if it wasn't for the tips that he brought home-which he has good and bad nights, it would be really tough. They get paid sooo little.

 

[Disbug]

Originally posted by mommytotwo
My DH works at a job that he gets tipped at. Everyone puts their tips in a jar and at the end of their shift, the money gets split between the ones that were working. He gets paid very little so if it wasn't for the tips that he brought home-which he has good and bad nights, it would be really tough. They get paid sooo little.

I think that is why many people are tipping now... out of pity or feeling that the person is not making a decent wage. It used to be for great service. (And sometimes, still is...) Somehow tipping has become a form of charity, instead of a reward for an outstanding job. This is a double-edged sword for many of us... wanting to reward great service, but not wanting to deprive someone of a living wage.

 

[2minnies]

Originally posted by Gaiusrex
It does seem like everyone has their hand out these days.

I just wish people could be paid a fair and equitable wage for the work they perform and do away with the whole tipping business.

Do I reall need to tip the guy that takes my golf clubs off the cart and cleans them with a dirty rag. I can do that myself, but I get dirty looks for doing it.

Amen!

 

[cascadecupcake]

I can't stand the idea that we have to tip the housekeepers (and other lower paying positions) because the poor souls are unqualified for a higher paying position and have no other choice. The guy who stands at the end of the construction lane and flips the sign from "slow" to "stop" makes three times as much. What kind of schooling do you think is mandatory for that job? He merely had either the motivation or gumption to find a job that paid him a better wage.

With the current theory, I can think of several other jobs that should now become tipped positions. Let's all add just one and see where the list goes!


1.) The stay at home mom who eBays her way to Disney! That takes a lot of organization. From now on if you get an item packaged nicely and sent promptly, please remember to paypal an extra 15-25% to the seller for her exemplary service.

 

[DemonLlama]

I do not want to be responsible for depriving a person of part of their wages, and I do not think I should be in the position of guessing. Employers should pay a living wage in the first place. If that means there is an extra dollar added onto the cost of the service, I'm much happier paying that equitably (everyone who uses the service picks up the cost) than feeling guilty about being put in the aristocratic position of deciding who "deserves" my tip because of his circumstances. In this system, a tip is for extraordinary service that I can personally reward, without expectation.

 

[imsayin]

With the current theory, I can think of several other jobs that should now become tipped positions. Let's all add just one and see where the list goes

I prepare tax returns. My clients should tip me 15-20% of their refund. If they owe the IRS, they should maybe tip me just $20.00.

Tip your children's teachers. The scale should be sliding based on the grades you get - for an A tip $25, B tip $20, etc.

Tip the school bus drivers based on their timeliness.

Always carry around a wad of $1.00 bills. You never know when you might need to hand them out: crossing guards, lifeguards at the pool, the cashier at Target or McDonalds, when you pay your phone bill, send in a few bucks for the clerk that processes your payment, etc.

 

[PRaffen]

Tipping totally confuses me.

Since we tip based on the amount of the bill, it has never made sense to me that the waitress who brings me my hamburger, fries and water gets so much less than the waitress who serves my filet, twice baked potato, and soda.

It takes as much effort to take, place and serve the first order as the second.