Tim Tebow

No, it is meant to mock Religion. It is satire. While I understand the point they are making with the FSM, it IS anti-religion.

I never said it wasn't ;) I was just saying that it isn't just anti-christian...it parodies all of them old and new :thumbsup2 It's meant for humor and to make one think more than anything else, but I will say this there is a reason why Pasta and Meatballs taste so good hahaha

WWJD? HWCTFSM
 
I never said it wasn't ;) I was just saying that it isn't just anti-christian...it parodies all of them old and new :thumbsup2 It's meant for humor and to make one think more than anything else, but I will say this there is a reason why Pasta and Meatballs taste so good hahaha

WWJD? HWCTFSM

As with any satire, there is a message that typically is communicated. But to say it isnt anti-religion, is obtuse. The message the satire communicates is obvious

And pasta and meatballs taste good because I am a great cook.
 
As with any satire, there is a message that typically is communicated. But to say it isnt anti-religion, is obtuse. The message the satire communicates is obvious

And pasta and meatballs taste good because I am a great cook.

Ahh yes I see the confusion in my wording...sorry i am at work so I am going in between this while my excel macros are running....what I meant was it wasn't anti-any religion in particular just anti in general....that's what i get for slacking off at work :)

I'm a sucker for pasta and meatballs...recipe? Or is it chef's secret :goodvibes
 
Ahh yes I see the confusion in my wording...sorry i am at work so I am going in between this while my excel macros are running....what I meant was it wasn't anti-any religion in particular just anti in general....that's what i get for slacking off at work :)

I'm a sucker for pasta and meatballs...recipe? Or is it chef's secret :goodvibes

I grew up with homemade Pasta and meatballs. To this day, I still make my pasta and sauce from scratch. I use veal, pork and beef for my meatballs.

Its the chef!

Of course, when that is the menu, my wife goes nuts. My sauce simmers almost all day, and nobody is allowed in my kitchen because of all the pasta hanging around drying.

LOL@Macro's: Im running queries and SQR's

darn lag



EDIT: Props on Princess Bride nametag
 

And it certainly makes sense that our opinions would vary. You are a native Floridian and a huge Gators fan. I have only lived here for a few years and I despise the Gators. Makes sense that we would see things a bit differently, no? If you try and rip on one of my players on one of my teams, I would defend them just as you are doing.

And please try to understand that I don't have a beef with Tebow. He is what he is and I think he has a lot of guts to put himself out there as this very Christian person when he is in a profession that isn't always on the up and up. I say good for him. But he also created this himself and if he decides to get caught up in drugs or hookers, or has a baby out of wedlock, the media will have an absolute field day with it compared to the likes of Brady who never made the claims that Tebow makes.




:thumbsup2 I think he knows exactly what he is doing. Again, good for him. But once you create something, don't have a fit when people call you out on it if you don't live up to that expectation. I hope he is true to his word and this isn't just something his mom brainwashed him with. He seems like a good guy.

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I guess I don't understand what claims Tim has made? He thanks his lord openly but I don't know of anything he has claimed other than he wants to be a starting qb in the nfl and to work and keep trying to get better. I think everyone else is putting the expectation up there.
 
Sorry, maybe despise was too harsh of a word. I have alliances to my home teams. I do not like ANY Florida teams (college or professional). I don't root for them and I don't keep up with the box scores. My daughter will likely become a Knight next year so I might be forced to endure some games over the next few years. You are native to FL so it makes sense that you are a Gator fan. It wasn't my school or in my state so my alliances lie elsewhere. Nothing more nefarious than that, I'm afraid.

I'm not native to Florida. I am an alum of UF, like Lillygator, and not just a fan of the Gators.

As for FSM, my point WAS (is) that if someone wanted to thank him, I wouldn't care, it's his/her right. Don't care if it is satire, anti-Christian, or whatever, thank Christian Louboutin or Mickey Mouse for all I care! That's my point. We are free to say such things.

Oh and I am wondering what claims Tebow has made as well.
 
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Grady-James! 9/9/11 The newest addition to our family!

(sorry, just had to share!)
 
lillygator, that has to be one of the most precious pictures I have ever seen. :lovestruc
 
Cute pic, lillygator!
If he goes up and wants to go to FSU you have something to blackmail him with. ;)
 
Great article. :thumbsup2

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...y-highprofile-loss-to-patriots?module=HP11_cp

Tebow's day not ruined by high-profile loss to Patriots

By Jeff Darlington NFL.com
Reporter
Published: Dec. 19, 2011 at 05:48 a.m.
Updated: Dec. 20, 2011 at 12:14 a.m.

DENVER -- For the first time in seven days, each of which I spent in Denver because of Tim Tebow's polarizing impact on the NFL, the Broncos' quarterback and I finally had the chance to exchange more than the daily salutations I'd come to expect from the overbearing nature of Tebowmania.

We walked toward the exit -- among the last to leave the locker room after a 41-23 loss to the Patriots on Sunday -- as I began to ask the first of what I hoped would be a series of questions.

"How is the strength of your faith impacted after a loss?" I started.

"It puts things in perspective," Tebow said. "God is still God. I still have a relationship with Christ, and a loss doesn't change anything. Win or lose, everything is still the same. What matters is the girl I'm about to see, Kelly Faughnan. If I can inspire hope in someone, then it's still a good day."

And just like that, with a transition smooth enough to make a movie producer proud, Tebow crossed through the threshold of a doorway to the glowing face of a 22-year-old survivor of a brain tumor. After one question, the interview was over. A more important priority awaited him.

You might remember Faughnan. She's the woman who unexpectedly met Tebow on the eve of the 2009 College Football Awards, only to be asked by the quarterback to join him as his date on the red carpet the following night. Faughnan has recovered from her brain tumor, but she still deals with the hearing loss suffered at birth and a noticeable tremor that began when she was 12.

For 15 minutes Sunday, their arms wrapped around one another's back, Tebow and Faughnan stood together smiling without a camera in sight.

Earlier, Tebow's performance on the field wasn't solid enough to overcome three second-quarter turnovers. He made some nice throws, and he looks to be improving, but not even a fourth-quarter touchdown drive was enough to spark another win -- not with a high-powered offense like the Patriots' on the opposing sideline Sunday.

The loss wasn't enough to thwart a season, just like seven crazy wins shouldn't be enough to define a legacy. It instead keeps this conversation moving forward; hopefully in a healthier manner that will partly neutralize the pro-Tebow supporters just as his previous success helped to partly neutralize some of his football skeptics.

It will do nothing, however, to change the course of the conversation as it pertains to his religious faith. Tebow still thanked God to begin his news conference on Sunday. He still pointed to the sky after his first touchdown. He still took a knee after the loss for a postgame prayer with players from both teams.

After all, "God is still God." And this platform, the one that Tebow has turned into something bigger than sports has seen in decades, will continue to allow him to express his faith whether you agree with him or not.

Will it impact his play? Perhaps his faith breeds confidence. Will it help his teammates? His relentless attitude seems to still be rubbing off, a sentiment expressed to me when I asked Broncos cornerback Champ Bailey about it after the loss.

"It still felt like we had a chance at the end," Bailey said. "I think that's part of who we are. We've proven we will not quit until this thing is over."

But I believe there's something that matters more to Tebow. While football is important to him, I'm convinced he believes he was placed on this Earth to use his fame, however long it might last, to help inspire the people around him. And while many would appreciate a more muted approach, not everyone sees it that way.

While Tebow stood with Faughnan on Sunday evening, I stood several feet away with her father, Jim. Last week, Jim received a call from the Tim Tebow Foundation, which works in partnership with the Dreams Come True group to grant many Tebow-related wishes throughout the NFL season. Tebow wanted to catch up with Faughnan again, so he had his foundation reach out.

With his daughter glowing as Tebow engaged her and her family nearby, Jim spoke to me about Kelly's struggles -- a conversation that jolted me far from the analysis of a football game that finished an hour earlier. We talked about the tumor that invaded her brain. About the tremor that remains unexplained by doctors. About the hearing loss that resulted from a lack of oxygen at birth.

"I can't begin to tell you the impact he's had on my daughter," Jim said. "She's very positive, and she tries so hard, but she's had a struggle. Tim Tebow has built her self-confidence up so much -- taught her to believe in herself -- that when I see people criticize him, I'm just dumbfounded. I don't get it. It's almost incomprehensible to me. I don't understand why anyone wouldn't want to see an athlete use his position and platform to do good for people."

Over the last two months -- between conversations with friends, NFL players, media brethren and even some of Tebow's own teammates -- it is abundantly clear that Tebow's expression of faith wears on many. I've heard it all: What happens if he starts to lose? Does it mean God has abandoned him? What about when he wins? Is that to suggest God really dislikes Bears running back Marion Barber?

Heck, as I've explored this subject during my week in Denver, I've even thought similar things. But I continue to come back to the same thought; a line I recall from a poem called The Desiderata by Max Ehrmann.

"Be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be."

Even if his NFL career ended tomorrow (it won't), even if Sunday's loss to the Patriots proved to be the beginning of the end for Tebow's NFL success (I doubt it), Tebow has clearly found his peace with his God. At the very minimum, he'd be able to reflect on a span of his life when he impacted thousands while continuing to work toward his cause in less prominent ways.

More likely, this ride is far from over for Tebow. The conversations, whether you are naïve enough to believe they are simply media-driven or not, aren't close to concluded. The debates about his abilities on the field will continue, and the arguments about his expression of faith will rage forward.

All the while, Tebow will keep smiling. And Kelly Faughnan will keep smiling right back.
 
Except the FSM was created to mock, it is satire. So if youre an athlete, and you praise the FSM, youre gonna get a backlash. I can see it now

"I also would like to thank the FSM for touching me with its noodley appendage and granting me the skill to compete at this level."

The Media would have a field day with that.

Well, it is an anti-Christian satire so maybe not

Another perceived slight that isn't. FSM was created in response to the pushes in several states to sneak creationism teaching into the public schools under the guise of "intelligent design" and push evolution education out. Considering that of Americans in the 12 largest Christian denominations, 89.6% belong to churches that support evolution education, there is no way the origin of the FSM is anti-Christian.
 
Another perceived slight that isn't. FSM was created in response to the pushes in several states to sneak creationism teaching into the public schools under the guise of "intelligent design" and push evolution education out. Considering that of Americans in the 12 largest Christian denominations, 89.6% belong to churches that support evolution education, there is no way the origin of the FSM is anti-Christian.

Bull Pucky.

It was Satire. Yes, it was to make the point, but the FSM was meant to be the slight it is perceived as. That is what Satire is.

Period.

Satire Noun:

1. A literary work in which human vice or folly is attacked through irony, derision, or wit.
2. The branch of literature constituting such works. See Synonyms at caricature.
3. Irony, sarcasm, or caustic wit used to attack or expose folly, vice, or stupidity.


The FSM communcated effectively what the anti-faith crowd is saying.
 
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here's hoping for the next gator great!

Grady-James! 9/9/11 The newest addition to our family!

(sorry, just had to share!)

He is adorable and precious....and flexible :goodvibes

Should bode well for his football career!
 
Tebow, Thongs and Reality Shows

A little Tebow humor to end the snowy day
http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2011/12/22/a-little-tebow-humor-to-end-the-snowy-day/11433/
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It seems that as part of Tim Tebow’s endorsement deal with Jockey, he occasionally films a question and answer segment. In this one, posted by Jockey today, we see a side of Tebow that he rarely shows the public.

Here’s the video. In the first minute, he answers some questions about his touchdown celebration and pre-game routine. Typical Tebow stuff. But about a minute in …. comedy gold.

http://youtu.be/CsqJ7a3wt6k
 


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