Tim Tebow

I watched the documentary "Senna" on Netflix instant watch last night, about the greatest racecar driver ever, Ayrton Senna.

He too was deeply religious and to me, he reminds me of Tebow. He wasn't trying to push his religion on others either, he just felt that he was in a spiritual "zone" with God and the only way he could describe the things he did was with God helping him.

I am not a religious person, but I fully accept Senna's and Tebow's beliefs as them just explaining how they are able to do what they do. They don't think "I'm good at what I do and oh also, I believe in God and you should too", they say "I am blessed to have God help me to become the best in my profession I can be"

They can't separate one from the other, it goes to the core of their personality and I respect that.
 

I wonder how many people are lining up waiting for the Patriots to win this weekend and then using the Broncos loss as the reason that Tebow is overrated. The reality is that the Patriots are the better team and should win so that would prove nothing.

I agree. As big of a Bronco fan as I am (and will be going to the game tomorrow), I have no qualms about saying that I believe that the Pats will be winning the Timmy Tommy bowl tomorrow.

Won't take away the fun of the game nor Denver's love of Tebow. Everybody in Denver knows that the Broncos still need to build the rest of their team.
 
I doubt he'll join and boy will that stir things up for him.

That would be a shame if he felt that encouraging bullied children and telling them that they shouldn't end their lives is a bad thing. No matter how you feel about homosexuality, I would think that children being bullied into suicide is something that should be prevented.
 
That would be a shame if he felt that encouraging bullied children and telling them that they shouldn't end their lives is a bad thing. No matter how you feel about homosexuality, I would think that children being bullied into suicide is something that should be prevented.

:thumbsup2 If he does this I will respect him, I will be shocked if he does. The sad part is I have a feeling a handful of people (not on this thread in general) who now support Tebow would turn against him if he did do it. :sad2:
 
:thumbsup2 If he does this I will respect him, I will be shocked if he does. The sad part is I have a feeling a handful of people (not on this thread in general) who now support Tebow would turn against him if he did do it. :sad2:

I know..and it makes me sad too. That people would condone bullying to the point a child takes his/her own life to avoid even appearing to "approve" of homosexuality is just mystifying to me.
 
I know..and it makes me sad too. That people would condone bullying to the point a child takes his/her own life to avoid even appearing to "approve" of homosexuality is just mystifying to me.

The ironic thing is that Tebow is being bullied himself into join the cause.

He is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

I hope he does choose to support the cause, however, if he doesn't, I am not going to jump to homophobe and that he doesn't think bullied children are important.

I see what he does for children here in Denver. Most of it he does under the radar so as not to draw attention to himself.
 
3 hours before we leave for the stadium.

GO BRONCOS!
 
I know..and it makes me sad too. That people would condone bullying to the point a child takes his/her own life to avoid even appearing to "approve" of homosexuality is just mystifying to me.


Well, maybe he'll do it. I guess he'll weigh it all and see if and what it all stands for and decide.
I have a DD who was bullied so if it was ME, I'd probably do it (though DD is not a lesbian) and two of my dearest friends ARE lesbians so I know a tiny bit of ridicule and harassment they have faced. *probably because I have not clicked on the link and read everything yet.
If it meant you could save ONE child from being bullied for any reason or kept them from committing suicide for any reason, I would do it.
 
The ironic thing is that Tebow is being bullied himself into join the cause.

He is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

I hope he does choose to support the cause, however, if he doesn't, I am not going to jump to homophobe and that he doesn't think bullied children are important.

I see what he does for children here in Denver. Most of it he does under the radar so as not to draw attention to himself.

So it'll be interesting to see reaction to him if he doesn't, huh? I mean, bullying and all. Interesting...

It really is a big cycle of sorts... :sad2:
 
Well, maybe he'll do it. I guess he'll weigh it all and see if and what it all stands for and decide.
I have a DD who was bullied so if it was ME, I'd probably do it (though DD is not a lesbian) and two of my dearest friends ARE lesbians so I know a tiny bit of ridicule and harassment they have faced. *probably because I have not clicked on the link and read everything yet.
If it meant you could save ONE child from being bullied for any reason or kept them from committing suicide for any reason, I would do it.

I'm not sure Tebow's a homophobe, after all he signed onto the Broncs knowin' the NFL has an anti discrimination clause that includes gays. If he has very strong convictions against gays, then he'd probably refuse to work with them, wouldn't he?
 
I seriously doubt he is a homophobe. I do not think most Christians are homophobes. I think they are extremes in all groups.
Biblically, gluttony is a sin. Do you (general) think Tebow is a "fataphobe"? Ever see a fat Christian? They probably have a problem with food on a daily basis--it is part of their lifestyle--focusing on food and overeating. Personally, for me picking things out of the Good Book to call people out is wrong. I think all people fall into some scripture that speaks against what they do, believe, how they live, whatever. I think a favorite of Christians to point out is homosexually, because, in general, they aren't "guilty of it." But when they point that finger, 3 more fingers are certainly pointing back at them.

ETA: or worry...I'm a person who struggles with worry. The Bible speaks against it to. It is a daily thing for me. Some days I worry more than others, some nights I worry and can't sleep. I really think people have to look at their own selves and see we can read that book and find things that step on our toes, no matter what. If it is only about what WE think, then OK, it does not matter what that Book says anyway. If I thought what the Bible says does not matter than I could worry all I wanted without trying to stop. I'm darn good at it. ;)
 
I'm not sure Tebow's a homophobe, after all he signed onto the Broncs knowin' the NFL has an anti discrimination clause that includes gays. If he has very strong convictions against gays, then he'd probably refuse to work with them, wouldn't he?

I don't think he is either. However, you know there is a small group people out there who are going to proclaim that if he does not bow to their pressure and join this one particular cause.
 
So it'll be interesting to see reaction to him if he doesn't, huh? I mean, bullying and all. Interesting...

It really is a big cycle of sorts... :sad2:

Well, because of the Super Bowl commercial, he's already assumed to hold all the same positions that the organization who produced the commercial does. So if he doesn't do the "it's gets better" spot I don't think all that many people will be surprised.

As for me, if he doesn't do it it will be disappointing, but I haven't seen spots from other people whose work I appreciate. Hasn't stopped me from liking their music, acting, or athletic performances. I don't use litmus tests before I decide to watch TV, read, see a movie, a game,or listen to music.
 

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