Tim Tebow

[Uncle Remus]

There in lies the rub, he is getting a free pass from people because it is his personal belief system. But If Random Player B celebrated after every touchdown with a "BY THE POWER OF GRAYSKUL, I HAVE THE POWER" and after the game praised "The Sword of Power" for giving him the abilities, motivation and desire to do his job, people who are vehemently defending how Tebow conducts himself would look at Player B like he had 4 heads.

Please don't perceive that the wrong way, I'm not saying Tebow should be looked at as if he has 4 heads. I'm just saying that is the quandary that Tebow has created for all football fans. Is he over-the-top for everyone? no. Is he over-the0top for me personally, yes. Should he stop mentioning and displaying his personal beliefs all together? no, I don't think he should. Should he dial them back a little? Yes I believe he should. Is he an overall good role model? sure in his personal life. Could he be doing better at being a professional role model? I absolutely believe so.

Just my opinion as a fan of Football, right now Tebow for me is lumped into the category of players I don't like. Could that change? absolutely.

I venture to say if Tebow was thankin' a same sex partner/spouse for their support, a lot of folks would claim he's crammin' his lifestyle down the public's throat.

 

[joviroxx]

Well, say what you may, but Denver wins again. He has his team believing in him and in themselves.. isn't that what good leaders do?

 

[Wadecool]

Hope there's enough aspirin to go around for all the haters after Denver beat Chicago in OT tonight.

 

[Buckalew11]

I only know what has been reported and I was speaking to what has been reported.



Yes I do believe he is. Just because I dislike how someone acts doesn't make me jealous of them, it simply means I don't like them. You are reading way to much into my opinion.



IMO It has every bit to do with his professionalism, he gets paid to play Football. When he is wearing that uniform he represents the Broncos organization first, His teammates second, the NFL third then himself and his beliefs. The point I was making was that I don't feel as though he conducts himself in a mature and professional manner nor is he humble enough to listen to the guidance and advice of his professional peers (former and active NFL players).

For that very reason I never liked TO, Ochocinco, Terry Glenn, Ladanian Tomlinson, Bryan Cox, Bret Favre, Ray Lewis, Palxico Buress and a few other current and former NFL players.

IMHO If Tebow has a chance at becoming a true professional he should think about being more like Barry Sanders, Drew Brees, Dwight Freeny, Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers and less like the aforementioned above.......Obnoxious is obnoxious no matter the subject.

But like I said before it's just my opinion, not saying people shouldn't like the guy, just saying I don't. He doesn't do anything grossly wrong, we're not talking Rae Carruth here. It's just my personal opinion

I think that is the part that at this point in Tebow's life, he is not willing to change. I'm hoping he'll always have such a strong faith but...

Like I said before, Tebow's faith IS who he is. For him, "to live is Christ", at this point in his life his faith is number one (may he always keep it that way, but it is definitely the struggle of every Christian person). It sounds to me like Tebow puts God first and everything else follows.

Tebow is what we call "maturing in his faith"--growing. Many Christians say they believe, sporadically go to church, do good things, but don't really grow in their faith so that faith is just something down the list in their life---maybe #4 or 5 or so.

I think that's the difference--Tebow can't separate his faith from who he is--he is not compartmentalizing God (see you off the field, God)--nope, Tebow takes God along with him. May he always have such a strong faith. It is a struggle daily for me...so, while I do not idolize the man, he does inspire me.

 

[metalis4ever]

Hope there's enough aspirin to go around for all the haters after Denver beat Chicago in OT tonight.

I think Barber is going to have a monopoly on the aspirin.

 

[Wadecool]

I think Barber is going to have a monopoly on the aspirin.

I know, right? Between running out of bounds and that fumble, he's going to have a long trip back home.

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

Alright, I'm officially sold on the guy. Sometimes something magical comes along. Go Tebow!

 

[BeachGirlFLA]

Just looked at Tebow's stats for first 10 games compared to Elway's:
Elway TD-INT: 6-14 Tebow: 13-4
Elway passer rating: 51.8 Tebow: 83.7
Elway Win/Losses: 4-6 Tebow: 7-3
Elway Completion %: 47.1 Tebow: 48.5
Elway Passing Yards per Game: 152.9 Tebow: 162.6

 

[SaraJayne]

Well, say what you may, but Denver wins again. He has his team believing in him and in themselves.. isn't that what good leaders do?

They didn't win because of Tebow. They won because they have an impressive field goal kicker.

 

[dnoyes]

Just looked at Tebow's stats for first 10 games compared to Elway's:
Elway TD-INT: 6-14 Tebow: 13-4
Elway passer rating: 51.8 Tebow: 83.7
Elway Win/Losses: 4-6 Tebow: 7-3
Elway Completion %: 47.1 Tebow: 48.5
Elway Passing Yards per Game: 152.9 Tebow: 162.6

Nice work BeachGirl.

Love him or hate him, he gets it done on the field. Good on ya Tim.

 

[Wadecool]

They didn't win because of Tebow. They won because they have an impressive field goal kicker.

That's true, but Tebow made plays that put that impressive field goal kicker within range.

 

[ChrisFL]

They didn't win because of Tebow. They won because they have an impressive field goal kicker.

Funny, the kicker didn't pass the ball for that touchdown they had

 

[LisaR]

They didn't win because of Tebow. They won because they have an impressive field goal kicker.

I am not a Tebow fan at all but it bugs me when people can't give props to someone when they do a good job even if they aren't someone you care for. He lead his team down the field and he lead them to victory. I don't care for his style but I can see past that enough to say that he did well today and has done well the last few weeks.

 

[Aisling]

I am not a Tebow fan at all but it bugs me when people can't give props to someone when they do a good job even if they aren't someone you care for. He lead his team down the field and he lead them to victory. I don't care for his style but I can see past that enough to say that he did well today and has done well the last few weeks.

 

[AndyLL]

Just looked at Tebow's stats for first 10 games compared to Elway's:
Elway TD-INT: 6-14 Tebow: 13-4
Elway passer rating: 51.8 Tebow: 83.7
Elway Win/Losses: 4-6 Tebow: 7-3
Elway Completion %: 47.1 Tebow: 48.5
Elway Passing Yards per Game: 152.9 Tebow: 162.6

Elway was a rookie. Tebow is a 2nd year player.

There is a reason QBs do better after sitting a year or 2.

Compare Tebows starts in his 2nd year to Elways in his 2nd year for a fair comparison.

 

[joviroxx]

I am not a Tebow fan at all but it bugs me when people can't give props to someone when they do a good job even if they aren't someone you care for. He lead his team down the field and he lead them to victory. I don't care for his style but I can see past that enough to say that he did well today and has done well the last few weeks.

 

[metalis4ever]

I was wrong, Tebow won that game yesterday. He still can't throw to save his life unless adrenaline is coursing through his body. I maintain he will only be a long term NFL QB if he learns how to play in the first 3 Quarters, afterall that staunch Broncos Defense can't be expected to show up and dominate and keep them within 2 scores in the 4th quarter against every opponent. His teammates are on his side though and that's a powerful thing, winning will do that for you.

All I have to say is Go Pats!!!! Brady, Welker and Gronkowski will put up more than 10 points on the Donkeys. If Castle Grayskull was real Gronkowski would be He-Man.

 

[lillygator]

great job Timmy!!
I'm really pulling for you this week....

 

[goofy!]

Here is the entire transcript of Tebow's post interview.

2 lines of praise for his Lord, tons of lines of praise for his team, his coach and he even threw out some props for the Bears.

So, one could really say he is pushing football down people's throats and not his religion

As for humbleness, he never speaks ill of any of his teammate or the other team. Even when the interviewer pushed him, asking if he was frustrated with all the dropped passes, he took the blame himself, saying he needed to be a better passer.

So refreshing after the Cutler and Orton "Me, Me, Me" days. There is a reason the team loves this guy and rallys around him. There is no reason they should be winning these games except for pure heart. And that is what Tebow inspires in the team.

However, we will see how long he stays in town. A survey done last week shows that he is more popular in Denver than Elway ever was. Elway won't put up with that.


Transcript of Tim Tebow's post-game press conference
Posted: 12/11/2011 11:18:37 PM MST
Updated: 12/12/2011 12:22:54 AM MST
By The Denver Post
Tim Tebow​ gives fans high five at Sports Authority Field at Mile High in Denver, Sunday, Dec. 11, 2011, after the Broncos defeated the Bears 13-10. (Joe Amon, The Denver Post)
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Following is the full text of Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow's press conference immediately following the overtime victory over the Chicago Bears​, Dec. 11, 2011:

"I guess, first and foremost I'd like to thank my Lord and savior, Jesus Christ, and after that I just want to thank my teammates and coaches. You know, I just want to thank Coach Fox and the coaches for giving me the opportunity and believing in me for the entire game and for the defense for keeping us in it and our receivers and our offensive line, who at the end of the game made me look a lot better than I really am."

It wasn't going well at all for you up until that last period. How are you able to kind of put that completely out of your mind, because you guys were moving the ball and your stats, I don't remember, were 3 of 17 or something like that?

"I don't think we necessarily get focused on the stats or what's happened in the past. Obviously, that can be frustrating. We had opportunities early and we didn't take advantage of them, so that kind of put us in a position where we were behind, which was disappointing.

"But guys kept encouraging one another, defense kept encouraging offense; the offense encouraging special teams. Just try to keep believing until the very end. It wasn't looking very good, but guys kept, shoot, encouraging me, at all times, believing in me, and we kept believing, and I think that's special when you have a team that believes and a team that's going to continually fight for 60 minutes, even though it's not looking good and even though it might be frustrating.

"We might have had opportunities and missed them, but we kept fighting and kept going, and the defense played phenomenal and came up with a bunch of huge stops, and we were finally able to get a drive there and score — a bunch of guys stepped up on that drive; the offensive line protected great, and D.T. stepped up on that drive; and Jeremiah and Lance and Deck, and a bunch of guys really stepped up, and we were able to get the ball back and find a way to go down there and.

"Shoot, it's kind of like a blur, I don't even remember everything that happened — but you can't say enough about Prater and how clutch he is and how much he means to our team. He's a great guy and a great person and a great player, and I'm proud that he's on our team."

Tim, was there a wrinkle that the Bears gave you that you had a little trouble figuring out?

"No sir, not really. I just think that we had some opportunities. You've got to give them credit, they are a very good defense. They came up with a bunch of big plays. Those two guys in the middle are pretty good. Brian Urlacher​ and Lance Briggs​ are pretty good, and it's fun to get to go against them.

They are known for, at least Urlacher, likes to chat with the quarterback. Did you have any conversations?

"Shoot, the only thing we talked about, pretty much, was he likes going to Florida to fish, and he came to one of our practices when I was in college at the University of Florida, and he was great. And Lance Briggs, what a player he is. They've got a lot of players. That interception Charles Tillman​ had was a great play. Bad decision on my part, which I can't have, and I've got to improve, but that was a great play."

Does it surprise, even you, so many things have to take place, just in this game, nevermind all the other things that happen. Marion Barber running out of bounds after the two minute warning?

"I might have thanked the Lord when he did that. I said, 'Oh, the Lord has something to do with it now.'

"He obviously, probably shouldn't do that, and that kept us in it. I mean, we probably would have had 10 seconds if he stayed in-bounds, but, it was just special.

"If you believe, unbelievable things can sometimes be possible. I think that's pretty special that we have a team that constantly believes and believes in each other."

Saying that, was there ever one time in the fourth quarter where you thought you were going to lose the football game?

"At certain times in the game where I was very frustrated and disappointed. Obviously, I thought we had opportunities — we had opportunities for the lead — so it was disappointing we were down 10-0. But great things are only possible if you're under very tough circumstances. That was a great comeback for this team, and it was led by our defense and coaches and a team that constantly believes."

Last week you laughed at me when I said you guys thrive in these situations. You clearly played better again today when it was the toughest situation to be in.

"I think my teammates make me look a lot better than I am. They really stepped up and came up with some huge plays, and I'm so proud of them. And the way D.T. stepped up on that last drive. You know, just good for him. I'm very proud of those guys.

"I think that is a character quality of a good team. When it is clutch and you need competitive greatness, you have to step up and you have to make those plays. If you're able to do it when it really matters, usually you can find a way. We've just got to get better at doing it for four quarters."

On the touchdown drive, you threw a pass earlier in the drive to Thomas and got blind-sided after you threw the ball. It was the second completion of the drive. You seemed to be a little woozy afterward when you got up. I was just wondering if…

"I'm feeling pretty good now. I necessarily don't remember that play well, it was kind of a blur. We had a lot of plays there on the last few drives. They had some good pressures and a good front, they got in there a few times and made some good plays. You got to give them credit there. Those are some really good players. Ryan Clady​ did a great job with Julius Peppers​ but he's a great player and he'll come up with some big plays too.

Were you frustrated by some of the dropped passes?

"I've just got to do a better job and just improve with accuracy and put it on my receivers more. They come up with a bunch of big plays, so I was just proud of their effort."

Regarding Tebow Time, do you think the clock needs to be readjusted a little bit? When you look at it, each game keeps coming down to the end and when you look at the first 3 ½ quarters statistically it's not pretty. How do you get this so you can do this a little earlier?

"I don't think it's 'Tebow Time'; I just think it's 'Bronco Time,' and the team steps up as a team. We play for one another and continue to trust one another, and I think that makes all the difference in the world."

Until everything went right, what was the most frustrating part today of everything going wrong?

"Just that we had opportunities, and we were able to move the ball and do some things, and it would be frustrating the way it got stopped or — one time it was, like a third-and-four, and I stepped up in the pocket and kind of made Urlacher miss, and then he got my foot, and I was a half-yard short of the first down. We get that first down, who knows what happens after that because we're already at midfield.

"When we got into the red zone, we had a few plays that they kind of snuffed out and did a good job on defense. Disappointed we didn't score there. And we also have a good drive going early, and I throw the pick to Tillman, and it was just frustrating because I felt like there were opportunities — even though a very good defense, and they made their plays — I felt like there were opportunities for us to get a lead in that game. It's disappointing that we didn't."

What did you tell Damarius Thomas after that last pass that went through his hands?

"I just said, 'Don't worry about it.' I actually told him — I was wrong — but I told him he was going to score the game-winning touchdown. He scored the one (touchdown) to get us within three, and then he came up with a bunch of huge plays to help us win it. He didn't technically score the game-winning touchdown, but I'll still give him the credit."

Why does it often take you so long to warm up? Fabulous again, not so fabulous…?

"I guess I just gotta get to the stadium and start practicing a little bit earlier. Just got to go back to the drawing board and find a way to get a little bit better in practice and try to improve and just try to get better as a quarterback and as a player and find a way to get this offense in the end zone early."

Does something come over you late? They talk about your eyes getting bigger? Does something come over you?

"I don't think so, Coach Meyer always preached at Florida, and Coach Fox always says it here. Coach Meyer always said 'competitive excellence.' When you're number is called; when it really matters, you're going to step up. And Coach Fox calls it 'competitive greatness.'

"It pretty much means the same thing: When you're number's called in the clutch time you better step up and make the play. I'm just proud that a lot of the guys on this team are like that, from our receivers to our offensive line to the defense to Prater to Britton . I'm just trying to improve every single day."

To Matt Willis — the guy is just clutch. Tell us a little about Matt Willis?

"I'm proud of Matt. He's definitely one of the more underrated guys, and he shouldn't be. He's a phenomenal receiver, and he's just so patient and so unselfish, and his approach and how plays — and he blocks so hard — and then when you need him in some clutch time he's going to step up and have huge catches. And you'll never hear from him. He'll never say, 'I was open' or 'Throw it to me,' but when you throw it to him he's going to step up and make the play, and I'm so proud and so happy he's on our team."

How would you describe just the last 6 to 8 weeks?

"It's definitely been somewhat of a whirlwind. been a lot of big games, and we've been fortunate to find a way to pull out most of them (7-1), and for us we've just got to take it one day at a time and figure out a way to improve; figure out a way to put the ball in the end zone earlier in games; and figure out a way to convert on third downs. I thought we did a little better job of that today, but a few other things would kind of stall us in drives. Sometimes you've got to give credit to the defense, but also I feel like we can just keep improving."

Your one game up in the AFC West, do you sense it's there for the taking?

"Well, like I said, it's one day at a time. That's something that's exciting and motivating, so it's not like we're not paying attention to that, it's just that we have to take it one day at a time, and we have to know what's on the line, and I think we have to up our game.

"Coach Fox talked about it: There's preseason; there's regular season; and then there's the playoff push before the playoffs, and we're in that playoff push. We have to find a way to get better and find a way to try and win some of these games."

How does the story end, Tim?[/B]

"That depends who's writing it.

"I think this has just been a great season, and I'm proud to be on a team with a bunch of guys who are high-character, coaches that are high-character, and however it ends I know I'm that I'm going to proud of all those guys and proud of the effort we put forth."

After the game, Brian Urlacher referred to you as a good running back. How do you take that comment?

"Coming from a really good player, that means a lot."

 

[PeterPan09]

Denver got a decent amount of help from Chicago in this one, but there is no denying the record. And once again, the post game remarks were about the receivers, the offensive line, the defense-he talked about how the TEAM believes they can win and that's why they are winning. Not about how he did something so wonderful.

I guess the bottom line is, if people disagree with someone's religious beliefs, with their politics, with their sexual orientation or whatever-the public expression of that thing they disagree with is going to be perceived as "shoving it down our throats", even if that isn't the intent.