Tim Burton

[Domo]

I'm being idle and just straight out asking...

Is Tim Burton anything to do with Disney? I'm watching Corpse Bride and am loving it!

 

[OnceUponATime15]

Just saw the trailer for the Tim Burton live action remake of Dumbo yesterday!

If you like Tim Burton films.. you should love the Dumbo redo. It looks amazing

 

[FlightlessDuck]

Burton used to work at Disney Animation before becoming a director. Now a lot of his movies (but not all of them) are produced or distributed by Disney.

 

[StageTek]

Is Tim Burton anything to do with Disney?

Burton went to CalArts - a training ground for Disney animators. He worked there for several years and made two short film for them. "Nightmare Before Christmas" was produced by Touchstone and released by Buena Vista. He directed "Alice in Wonderland" for Disney and produced the sequel.

 

[BrianL]

Burton went to CalArts - a training ground for Disney animators. He worked there for several years and made two short film for them. "Nightmare Before Christmas" was produced by Touchstone and released by Buena Vista. He directed "Alice in Wonderland" for Disney and produced the sequel.

I think that covers it.

Corpse Bride is very much a spiritual successor to The Nightmare Before Christmas. Also, if you like stop-motion, check out Henry Selick's (the actual director of NBC) work on James and the Giant Peach for Disney. It's trippy, but cool.

 

[Marchand63]

I will go to anything Tim Burton. My hero director next to Hitchcock

 

[BrinkofSunshine]

The first iteration of Frankenweenie was a live-action short he made for Disney that ended up forcing him to leave the company (they blamed him for wasting money to make something too dark and scary for kids).. ironically Disney would later remake Frankenweenie into a feature animation.

I got to see his exhibit at the MoMA in NY years ago.. it was awesome!

 

[DIS_MIKE]

I'm looking forward to his live-action Dumbo film.

 

[StageTek]

Okay... derail topic;

but is this Dumbo really "live-action"? Are they using live elephants?
I have the same question about the live-action "Lion King". Is CGI now considered live-action?

I, too, and really looking forward to Burton's Dumbo. But is it live-action?

 

[L&Lfan]

To me he's hit or miss. I thought his Alices and his Dark Shadows sucked.

 

[OnceUponATime15]

Dumbo 2019

Live or not... let’s take a look.

 

[PrincessShmoo]

The first iteration of Frankenweenie was a live-action short he made for Disney that ended up forcing him to leave the company (they blamed him for wasting money to make something too dark and scary for kids).. ironically Disney would later remake Frankenweenie into a feature animation.

I got to see his exhibit at the MoMA in NY years ago.. it was awesome!

I thought Frankenweenie was a dumb movie. I'm not a great fan of the Tim Burton-style shows, but this Disney attempt at a similar style was badly done.

 

[bcla]

He's done a lot of movies for Disney (as a director and/or producer) under their various studio names. Among the other movies mentioned, he directed Ed Wood which was released as a Touchstone movie.

 

[BrianL]

Okay... derail topic;

but is this Dumbo really "live-action"? Are they using live elephants?
I have the same question about the live-action "Lion King". Is CGI now considered live-action?

I, too, and really looking forward to Burton's Dumbo. But is it live-action?

Well, I believe there will be live actors and some sets, so it becomes live action. Like, is Who Framed Roger Rabbit live action or animated? The animation is just special effects. Really, CG animation really is just like one big special effect anyway. Now, in the scenes with no humans or anything then it probably is almost all animated, and may or may not use real backgrounds. I think the difference is in the feel of trying to be 100% realistic vs. animation which doesn't tend to do that.

 

[Hikergirl]

I have a love hate thing going for Tim Burton, some things he's done I have loved, some I've hated.
I'm not one that gets excited to see movies but I am looking very forward to seeing his Dumbo.

 

[kimmar067]

Tim Burton also directed Edward Scissorhands and Beetlejuice.

 

[lizardlife]

Tim Burton started at Disney as a junior, but left the company because he hated what the work they gave him. In fact, I had an animation teacher who was at the studio with him and was part of the group that Burton worked with to make his early short films made on an old super 8 camera.

Obviously he's been very successful since and has a wide and varied career. He does do work for Disney Studios, but only about a third of his projects have anything to do with the Disney company. He's very volatile as a director. Some of his work is ridiculously successful. Others are dismally bad. It's really hard to gauge his commercial success.

Having said that, NBC is NOT A TIM BURTON MOVIE. It was written by Tim Burton originally in the form of a poem and he did collaborate heavily with Danny Elfman to write the movie. THAT SAID, he had next to noting to do with the actual direction or art direction of the movie when it was in production. Rather, he produced a lot of the initial art that was later used as the design base for those later artists, including Henry Selick, the actual director and Deane Taylor.

So when it comes to NBC, it's a real mixed bag in terms of who is the creative reason for it's success. I tend to NOT think it's Tim Burton. After all, he pretty much left the production to Selick after he went off to London to film Batman II.

 

[BrianL]

Tim Burton started at Disney as a junior, but left the company because he hated what the work they gave him. In fact, I had an animation teacher who was at the studio with him and was part of the group that Burton worked with to make his early short films made on an old super 8 camera.

Obviously he's been very successful since and has a wide and varied career. He does do work for Disney Studios, but only about a third of his projects have anything to do with the Disney company. He's very volatile as a director. Some of his work is ridiculously successful. Others are dismally bad. It's really hard to gauge his commercial success.

Having said that, NBC is NOT A TIM BURTON MOVIE. It was written by Tim Burton originally in the form of a poem and he did collaborate heavily with Danny Elfman to write the movie. THAT SAID, he had next to noting to do with the actual direction or art direction of the movie when it was in production. Rather, he produced a lot of the initial art that was later used as the design base for those later artists, including Henry Selick, the actual director and Deane Taylor.

So when it comes to NBC, it's a real mixed bag in terms of who is the creative reason for it's success. I tend to NOT think it's Tim Burton. After all, he pretty much left the production to Selick after he went off to London to film Batman II.

You are right about Henry Selick, who is a great stop-motion director and never gets enough credit for NBC, however the original concept, characters, and story were all Tim Burton's. He absolutely had influence, just not the technical skill with stop-motion. He learned form Selick and eventually directed his own stop-motion feature, Corpse Bride. I think Selick's true masterpiece is Coraline, which is fantastic!

 

[lizardlife]

You are right about Henry Selick, who is a great stop-motion director and never gets enough credit for NBC, however the original concept, characters, and story were all Tim Burton's. He absolutely had influence, just not the technical skill with stop-motion. He learned form Selick and eventually directed his own stop-motion feature, Corpse Bride. I think Selick's true masterpiece is Coraline, which is fantastic!

I think of NBC as a collaborative project where everything came together. Burton's designs would have meant nothing without the help of Deane Taylor's skills (you can especially see his influence in the backgrounds and sets) and the songs would have gotten no where without Danny Elfman. The movie also had a lot of the revolutionary shots and camera work that can only be attributed to Selick. All this is pretty much demonstrated by Corpse Bride and Frankenweenie, which if you look at both, have a lot more of Burton's signature design "look" but a lot less of the well-rounded appeal found in NBC. And the box office proves that, as both were bombs.

I think my commentary is more on the fact that Burton gets too much credit for NBC when it was really a funky project that resulted in a lot of people putting their best work into it, not JUST Burton. And it really depends on who you consider to be the driving force in creativity: the guy who came up with the idea or the one who developed it into a product.