Three Disney Cruise Ships in the works!

[rteetz]

Disney has announced that in addition to their already two ships underway a third has been added to the fleet making it a total of 7 ships. These ships will be completed in 2021, 2022, and 2023. The ships will be slightly larger than the Dream and Fantasy.



https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2017/07/disney-planning-not-two-but-three-new-ships/

 

[Lesverts]

This one is the most interesting. DCL is going to be increasing their capacity by about 80% over 3 years. That is going to create downward pressure on their prices. I see this as Disney looking to find away to increase Parks and Resorts profit share into the high 40% to 50% range.

 

[RAD]

This one is the most interesting. DCL is going to be increasing their capacity by about 80% over 3 years. That is going to create downward pressure on their prices. I see this as Disney looking to find away to increase Parks and Resorts profit share into the high 40% to 50% range.

Maybe they'll base some of their fleet in Asia and Europe which may then not have any effect on the US prices.

 

[Lee Matthews]

Themed ships? A marvel and Star Wars ship or is that too niche?

I guess it's just more ships to spread around the world

 

[bellrae]

It'll be interesting to see if they (as is the trend with all the other major cruise lines at the moment) start trying to tap into the Australia/NZ/South pacific market. Australians are the largest growing group of cruise passengers at the moment, and the industry is exploding in this region over (our) summer months.

 

[Malestrom Troll]

I wonder which ship will be permanently stationed in Europe once the new ships arrive. Dream and Fantasy's contract with PC ends in 2022. I would think it would be one of those 2 since the Magic has already been doing European Cruises.

 

[Lesverts]

Even Royal Caribbean does not have permanent ships in Europe. So Disney won't. I think you might see the Wonder permanently in the Pacific now. South Pacific-Hawaii-Alaska. I have also read that Disney has been looking at Tampa to replace Galveston.

 

[dclpluto]

I wonder which ship will be permanently stationed in Europe once the new ships arrive. Dream and Fantasy's contract with PC ends in 2022. I would think it would be one of those 2 since the Magic has already been doing European Cruises.

I'm sure if disney asks pc they want to put ship 5 there in 2021 and re place it with the dream or fantasy I'm sure pc will agree.

 

[Lesverts]

Just pure speculation but;

Galveston doesn't seem to be the draw that Disney would hope. They are the slowest to yield their prices and the only non-Florida/non-Military discounts I've seen are for Galveston sailings. I have heard that Disney is looking at Tampa as a potential departure port because of its proximity to WDW. It is within about an hour of Disney. The other I've heard is going into some of the vacancy at Port Everglades in Ft. Lauderdale.

Only the Magic and Wonder can get through the Panama Canal. So if DCL is planning on putting a ship into the Pacific from one of the new ones it would be there permanently. That positioning cruise would be awesome (potential ports being Tel Aviv, Alexandria, Muscat, Goa, Mumbai, Male among so many others). Since they said each ship is going to be unique, to me that strongly suggests that Disney is going to at least moderately tailor a ship to the Asian market. You could put one into a rotational service of SEA, Korea/China/Japan, Australia/NZ/South Pacific. Since the ship wouldn't be in one place all the time it could do well. And Disney has ABDs in a lot of those areas to offer tie-ins. The other two new ones could be going to Port Canaveral. The only thing this changes is that I think the Wonder is going to be permanently in the Pacific as a California/Baja/Alaska ship, with the Magic doing the Canal cruises and seasonally expanding the Pacific offerings. I think you will see the Dream and Fantasy rotating between Caribbean/Bahamas and one go to the North Sea/Baltics and one go to the Mediterranean. This increases the global foot-print, beefs up the bread and butter Caribbean sailings and opens capacity in Europe.

I am guessing 2021 will displace Dream, 2022 will be the Pacific ship and 2023 will displace Fantasy.

But that is just my take. I don't think any of use saw the 3rd ship. Disney must have worked overtime to get that ship into production. The yards in Europe are so full right now.