this whole IPOD thing

I used to belong to lala.com, which started as a CD trading service between members. You listed what CDs you were willing to part with, others listed the same, and members traded among one another. Now I save Coke rewards codes. 1 Napster download is about 35 points.
 
I know my DD14 and her friends pass around the Cd's they buy. She rarely buys music. She mostly gets it from friends. When she does buy a CD, she shares it with them.
 
I'm teach at a college and here's how the college kids get so much music. They and their friends are downloading a lot of songs illegally. Yes, it's done and done often, esp. on college campuses. (Gotta use that high speed internet for something.) Then they swap songs. Plus they swap their cd's. So if you've got a dorm full of people downloading music and owning cd's and swapping this stuff all over the place, it doesn't take long at all to amass a huge collection.

Then there are the free songs that itunes gives away each week, plus the ones they actually do buy, plus the songs their friends back home have, and on and on. It's really not hard to get a lot of songs when you've got a big network of people to "borrow" from.

Me, personally, I've just used my CD's bought some songs, gotten some freebies off of itunes and then I got some software that let me convert my tapes to digital files (I'm that old that I have tapes).
 
I get some of my music from amazon.com's free music area. I don't always know the artist before hand but I listen to the small sample of the song and if I like I download it. It's free and totally legal.

As far as music from the library goes, I believe you're technically only allowed to keep it on your ipod for the amount of time you're allowed to check it out. After that I think you're supposed to delete it.

Well then that's what we do. ;)
 

Most of the music on my ipod (S) :laughing: is stuff that I already had the CD. You load it on to your computer, import into itunes and then place on your ipod.

Which, I might add, is perfectly legal since you, the owner of the CD, also own certain "rights" to the songs.
 
Yes, I think a lot of people borrow CDs/MP3s from each other and share on their iPods. And there are also a lot of people (teenagers, especially?) who download torrents of songs online. My understanding is that this is considering pirating music.

Yes, it probably is. But, how is it any different than when we used to tape songs off the RADIO onto cassettes and keep them for ourselves, or give them to friends, etc.? :confused3 I had TONS of "mix tapes" when I was a teenager, that I paid NOTHING for, by getting the songs off the radio.

I think the laws surrounding all this is just ridiculous. If I have songs on my ipod that are from CDs that my husband bought, TECHNICALLY this is pirated music, but come on...
 
Well, Apple announced they has sold 10 billion downloads as of february 2010 so that is a whole lot of legally downloaded songs. My kids have spent hundreds apiece on it as well. There are also a lot of public domain sites where artists post their songs for free downloading also so I would not assume that all these kids are stealing their music. You will also note the music industry as a whole has experienced a resurgence since the mp3 revolution and are doing quite well at the bank.
Drew
 
My husband has an Ipod, and my little girls (6 and 3) have previously used MP3's from family mmebers. I don't have one, but I'm thinking about possibly getting an Ipad. Anyway, when my husband and I got married 10 years ago, he had over 500 CD's. While he has gotten ride of a significant portion of his collection, we still have 2-300. We do buy new CD's, but my husband is a Youth Minister and he gets about 14 or so new CD's each quarter through a company, so that is also where a significant portion of our music collection comes from. And we do occasionally also buy individual songs.
 
My swim coach, who is also does some dj-ing has 16 iPods. Yes, 16!

If only he thought about getting something...anything...else, a player that uses a memory card that you can swap out or upgrade, so he didn't have to buy all those actual plastic devices...:headache:

We get cd's from the library and upload the songs we like to the I-pod. Is that illegal?

Ayep.

I think the laws surrounding all this is just ridiculous. If I have songs on my ipod that are from CDs that my husband bought, TECHNICALLY this is pirated music, but come on...

Well the laws are to protect the industry, which sounds bad until you remember that the heart of the music industry is the muscians and writers of the music. Those people created something, and deserve to be paid for that creation.
 
My niece downloads her music illegally all the time. I have warned repeatedly that it may come back to bite her in the butt one of these days. But she won't listen. Ah, to be 17 and be smarter than a 37 year old. I miss those days. :rotfl2:

Anyway, I have very little illegal music on my iPod that I downloaded long before I ever had an iPod. Some of my music is from CDs that I already owned and lots of it is bought from iTunes when I have a little extra money. I know that it adds up over time. I would actually not want to know the actual amount I have given to Apple in the almost 3 years I have had my iPod. What I love most about it is being able to purchase just one or two songs off of any given album rather buying the whole album for just one or two songs that I like. I have over 1000 songs on my iPod currently.
 
Well the laws are to protect the industry, which sounds bad until you remember that the heart of the music industry is the muscians and writers of the music. Those people created something, and deserve to be paid for that creation.

Yes, but if the CD WAS paid for, what's the harm in sharing it with your spouse? Your brother or sister? Your kids.

By your argument, if *I* purchase a kid's CD at Target, TECHNICALLY it's illegal for me to download those songs to my computer and transfer them to my KID's music player. That's beyond silly.

They need to amend the pirating law to only apply to RESELLING or otherwise REDISTRIBUTING for a FEE. Sharing between family members should not be illegal.
 
Our library has a service that lets you download 3 songs per card per week, so DD uses all of our downloads and then I use overdrive media to download books from the library. We also give and gets lots of itunes cards so thats where many of our downloads come from.

We also get the free downloads that itunes and amazon offer. I think I got dozens of christmas ones I got for free last christmas from amazon and then I have lots of TV shows that I got free from itunes.
 
So how do people have thousands and thousands of songs on their Ipods?
I looked at the Itunes store and a cd is the same price as it is in the store. I'm sorry, but I don't believe that all these high school and college students have spent tens of thousands of dollars on songs for Ipods. A couple years ago I took an art class and one girl told me she had over a million songs- a girl on financial aid at a community college (so unless she won the lottery under the table somehow, there is no way it came from the itunes store)
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No iPod/mp3 player holds a million songs.......(tho an iTunes account could...but I doubt any non-techy has enough memory on their computer to hold it...) That girl was full of hooey.

BTW, if you buy a CD, you and everyone who lives in your household is allowed to download the CD onto their mp3 player or burn CDs for personal use.

By copyright laws you cannot burn CDs for others...load other people's CDs onto your computer or mp3 (others outside of your household)...load CDs from the library onto your computer or mp3.

I am a school librarian and when I shared this information with 4th & 5th graders they were FLOORED. Illegal file sharing is a HUGE problem...mostly because most don't see it is wrong. Artists make no money off file sharing. Now it is hard to feel bad for Beyonce when she is worth tens of millions of dollars...but most artists make little, and it could certainly make the difference as to whether they can afford to continue to be an artist.

Food for thought.
 
we uploaded all our CDs and then we've downloaded various songs/albums from I-tunes as well and I just checked and we have 12310 songs in our library. Not even one is an illegal download.

We've only had I-pods for a very short while but DH had an absurd amount of CDs. Took us months to upload them all to the computer and they are a very likely culprit to why my desktop is out of memory.
 
My niece downloads her music illegally all the time. I have warned repeatedly that it may come back to bite her in the butt one of these days. But she won't listen. Ah, to be 17 and be smarter than a 37 year old. I miss those days. :rotfl2:

Due to the sheer amount of people who do it, it's unlikely she'll ever get caught. But if she ever wants to work for the government in a job that requires a security clearance (and in today's job market, who wants to lock themselves out of that?) she'll want to stop. They don't care if you've done it, but it can be asked on a polygraph and they just care that you did stop... or so I was told. :rolleyes1
 
We have 6,344 songs on Itunes. We got a huge start by ripping our library of CD's that had been purchased over many years. Then when my DS25 got his first Ipod years ago (the now obsolete Ipod mini) he probably spent about $50 per month from his part time job buying songs. It's slowed down a lot in the last few years as DS, DH, and I have pretty much purchased all we want. DD14 buys current music and maybe spends $3 or $4 per month buying songs.
 
Our library has a service that lets you download 3 songs per card per week, so DD uses all of our downloads and then I use overdrive media to download books from the library. We also give and gets lots of itunes cards so thats where many of our downloads come from.

We also get the free downloads that itunes and amazon offer. I think I got dozens of christmas ones I got for free last christmas from amazon and then I have lots of TV shows that I got free from itunes.

wow that is cool. what is the service called?
 
I have never had an Ipod. Downloading mp3's became illegal at the end of my being in college, so I gave that up and actually buy music. DH is a college professor and EVERYBODY has Ipods on campuses.

So how do people have thousands and thousands of songs on their Ipods?
I looked at the Itunes store and a cd is the same price as it is in the store. I'm sorry, but I don't believe that all these high school and college students have spent tens of thousands of dollars on songs for Ipods. A couple years ago I took an art class and one girl told me she had over a million songs- a girl on financial aid at a community college (so unless she won the lottery under the table somehow, there is no way it came from the itunes store)

Are normal people just illegally downloading things all over the place and I'm just naive? Are there really cheap places to buy songs? How do those of you with Ipods and families of Ipod owners budget this sort of stuff?
How does this work because I wanted an Ipod until I realized that I was going to have to re-buy everything I want to hear. What I don't need is a new way to spend my whole income.

I've checked a lot of CDs out of the public library and put only a few songs on my Ipod. I use my Ipod mostly for podcasts and audio books (also checked out from the library) . So, a majority of mine is filled up with that.
 
When I got my ipod (ya know back in the olden days like 4-5 years ago :laughing:) I converted every one of my CDs to itunes. Ever since then I have been purchasing my music either from iTunes, or Amazon. I have also gotten alot of freebies through promos. DD also has an ipod so when ever she buys a song, I put it on my ipod too. Years of doing that can really make your music library grow, although I have a 30GB and its not full yet.
 












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