Thinking of moving to FL any suggestions?

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DH, myself and our 2 DS are thinking of moving to florida for the fall winter and spring and then staying in Maine for the summer with our families. The thing is we don't have a clue about the other areas in Florida. Does anyone have any suggestions of areas with good, safe private schools which also are competitive in sports?
Thank you
 
Wow, what would you do for a job? We lived in Jacksonville (dh's hometown) for many years, but left about 7 years ago. Since that time housing prices have more than doubled all over Florida, and wages seem to have changed very little so.....we will probably never be able to afford to go back. We have a huge house now in Texas, a house this big in Florida would be a million plus! Some areas in Florida have good public schools, but they are county school districts (HUGE) so you have to look at the test results of individual schools. We found that as far as private schools, if you didn't get in starting in K your chances were slim, there were always waiting lists (this has been the case EVERYWHERE we have lived!) I have no idea about sports, but I think kids sports are HOT just about everywhere these days (not our cup of tea!) You could search the net for crime info, but again, you would probably be looking at entire counties, where smaller neighborhoods, ect. may not look so bad. Dh's family lives north of Orlando now (Winter Park.) They live in a nice, safe, family friendly (but pricey) area. They homeschool, and we do too now, but the schools in their area are highly rated from what I hear. Good luck, sounds like a dream lots of us have! It would be nice if you could take a trip to just go around checking out different areas and see what appeals to you :)
 
Thanks so much for the reply. My Dh is a teacher and I stay home(will go back to teaching when the time is right). In our area the housing market is crazy too.....a small ranch here can range from $270,000 and up. This is without land! We live in a great development with a wonderful house. It will be very hard for me to settle for less.
We own a couple of rental properties here in Maineso we would have a place to stay when we vacation.
I think it is pretty scary to think about schooling in other states and cities. We have our comfort zone here......ugh! My DH hates the winter months though. I am trying to compromise but it is a difficult thing sometimes.
Thanks again.
 
I am not sure about other counties, but teachers in our county (hillsborough, Tampa) make about $32,000 a year. A 4 bedroom, 2 bath home, 2500 square feet in a GOOD community goes for about $400k or more right now. Taxes for that house are $5000. Plus, if you live in a community, they charge HOA fees which can range anywhere from $50 - $200 extra per month. The prices are coming down here slowly, because people just can't afford that style of living here. Some can, most can not.
 

I'll have to agree with the above posters its hard to make a $$ in this state...we are in orange county..right by mickey...(a teacher makes about the same)...with housing the way it is we both have to work to keep up...This area is tourist driven and while i love it, I’ve been here for 18yrs. I have to admit most of our neighbors move in for 4/5 yrs then go back home..
 
K&KsMom said:
Thanks so much for the reply. My Dh is a teacher and I stay home(will go back to teaching when the time is right). In our area the housing market is crazy too.....a small ranch here can range from $270,000 and up. This is without land! We live in a great development with a wonderful house. It will be very hard for me to settle for less.
We own a couple of rental properties here in Maineso we would have a place to stay when we vacation.
I think it is pretty scary to think about schooling in other states and cities. We have our comfort zone here......ugh! My DH hates the winter months though. I am trying to compromise but it is a difficult thing sometimes.
Thanks again.
Dh's sis and bil have about 2000 square feet in Winter Park. They bought it about 8 years ago for 200 thousand. It is an older house, they totally re-did the kitchen and bathrooms. They have a small yard and a pool. Similar houses in their neighborhood are now going for half a million. They would love to sell and get something bigger. We moved to the Dallas burbs in December. We got 4450 square feet for 300 thousand. Small yard and a pool. When I go to their house I think "no way could we squeeze into this!" I know how you feel about the cold up north. We were in Chicago burbs for 5 years prior to this. I have to say though, the heat here is miserable (and dh and I are southerners!) One good thing, if you and/or your dh teaches at a private school your kids should get in! My dh does IT stuff and makes good money, but we move a lot because he often does consulting or takes a new job in another state. We do miss Florida though :guilty: . We go back every year and when we are there we feel like we are "home", though it is mighty hot there too! Good luck!
 
We are back living in Maine now but lived in Western Florida for five years. We really enjoyed that area of Florida - the beaches were beautiful and the cost of living was considerably cheaper than in Central and Southern parts of Florida. Also the temperatures were not as extreme either - there were more Pine trees than Palm trees. There are many days that I miss living there - life was definitely easier (i.e no bundling kids up in snowsuits)- but we missed family and that is why we came back. Unfortunately when we were living there we didn't have kids so I really cant comment on the schools or sports. If we decide to move back south - my DH will only consider that part of FL again - we both enjoyed it. Good Luck with your hunt!
 
I am not familiar with Maine or with FL much, but I am a teacher too and have looked a bit at teacher salary/vs. cost of living. FL seems to be, as the other poster pointed out, a no win situation. Pay is low and cost of living has gone up considerably.

Now, in the limited amount of research I have done, GA seems the best in terms of lower cost of living and quite high teacher pay (Atlanta area.)

I am dissappointed in NC, although it sounds much better than FL. You could get a home here for around $200,000 if you looked, and a teacher with 15 years of experience and an MA would make close to $45,000.

Check online for school districts of potential places. Each district typically has their salary scale posted (I am sure you already know that.) I did a lot of that before we moved here.

We came from Los Angeles last year. When I left I was making $70,000 full time.

The other thing that I didn't realize that I do now, is that teaching is SOOO different in different parts of the country......

NC has NO teacher's unions so you are at the whim of your principal and district.

A close friend moved from CA to NC and taught in both places. CA teacher unions are very strong and there are CLEAR guidelines about how long you can keep a teacher after school, etc...Here in NC, she said she worked about 40% more time than she did in CA, and made about 50% less.

See if you can find a teacher in the local area you are looking into and ask lots of questions.

Dawn
 
MEredhead said:
We are back living in Maine now but lived in Western Florida for five years. We really enjoyed that area of Florida - the beaches were beautiful and the cost of living was considerably cheaper than in Central and Southern parts of Florida. Also the temperatures were not as extreme either - there were more Pine trees than Palm trees. There are many days that I miss living there - life was definitely easier (i.e no bundling kids up in snowsuits)- but we missed family and that is why we came back. Unfortunately when we were living there we didn't have kids so I really cant comment on the schools or sports. If we decide to move back south - my DH will only consider that part of FL again - we both enjoyed it. Good Luck with your hunt!
I went to high school near Pensacola (late 70's), college in Tallahassee (early 80's) and then lived in Jacksonville from the mid-80's until 1999. It used to be that North and Northwest Florida were cheap like Georgia and Alabama. Central and South Florida, and anything on the beach, have always been pricey. Since 2000, however, those areas have been playing "catch up" with the rest of Florida and prices have risen dramatically. We have many friends in those areas whose small houses are now worth 300 to 400 thousand. I hope the person who said "prices are coming down" is correct. Wages in those areas no way make up for the housing prices. Basically, folks who cook in restaurants and clean hotel rooms live in the less desireable areas, and northerners who sell their homes in the northeast for a huge profit then move down live in the nicer areas, and the rest of us working stiffs just have to struggle, have two incomes ect., to be able to live in anything halfway decent. I know Florida is not alone in this issue, they just came to it more recently (the northeast and California have been this way for years!)
 
DawnM said:
I am not familiar with Maine or with FL much, but I am a teacher too and have looked a bit at teacher salary/vs. cost of living. FL seems to be, as the other poster pointed out, a no win situation. Pay is low and cost of living has gone up considerably.

Now, in the limited amount of research I have done, GA seems the best in terms of lower cost of living and quite high teacher pay (Atlanta area.)

I am dissappointed in NC, although it sounds much better than FL. You could get a home here for around $200,000 if you looked, and a teacher with 15 years of experience and an MA would make close to $45,000.

Check online for school districts of potential places. Each district typically has their salary scale posted (I am sure you already know that.) I did a lot of that before we moved here.

We came from Los Angeles last year. When I left I was making $70,000 full time.

The other thing that I didn't realize that I do now, is that teaching is SOOO different in different parts of the country......

NC has NO teacher's unions so you are at the whim of your principal and district.

A close friend moved from CA to NC and taught in both places. CA teacher unions are very strong and there are CLEAR guidelines about how long you can keep a teacher after school, etc...Here in NC, she said she worked about 40% more time than she did in CA, and made about 50% less.

See if you can find a teacher in the local area you are looking into and ask lots of questions.

Dawn

Check out Texas! Teacher salaries seem pretty good and housing prices are cheap compared to the other places we have lived (I know nothing about the unions though!)
 
wow thanks for all the comments......here in Maine the starting pay for teachers is in the $30's and moves upward depending what district. However cost of living here is quite high......state income tax and housing tax! My husband has always coached three varsity sports to make up the difference with our 1 person income right now. He does quite well for himself. We survive! :bitelip: He has been so supportive of my decision to stay home with the boys. I refused to send them to daycare. Now that we are looking at schools I would be looking for a private catholic school preferably.
Thanks again. We are off to Florida in 2 days!!! :banana:
 
DawnM said:
NC has NO teacher's unions so you are at the whim of your principal and district.

Dawn


I believe that are at the whim of your abilities and willingness to work.

Edited to say that my husband is a non-union teacher.
 
This is sad - I haven't posted in so long (years) that my username disappeared!! Wow! Guess it's time for me to de-lurk!!

I live in Jacksonville, and while the housing has become expensive, it's really no different than anywhere else. But it looks like you are already experiencing that and have a good handle on what to do to survive.

Since you were looking for good private schools, I thought I'd give you a few links to some good ones around here since my DS is starting kindergarten this year and we just had to do all that research ourselves. All these have pretty good athletic and academic programs.

OK, it won't let me post URLs since I had to get a new username. If you want a few links, including a great one to research private schools in ALL of Florida, just email me (should be able to just click my user name) and I'll send them to you.

Good luck!! Florida is a great place to live! Of course, I don't know anything else (been here all 40 years of my life), but I like it! Have relatives all over the state, and there's really not anywhere that I'd steer you away from.
 
Welcome back Figmentsbiggestfan! I did not know a user name could disappear! We loved Jacksonville and we miss it! Chances are you bought your house some time ago when Jax was affordable. If we had stayed we would be in your same boat. Like I said though, we can probably never afford to come back. I'll agree with you though, lots of other places are just as expensive, but lots of other nice places are still affordable.
 
DawnM said:
I am not familiar with Maine or with FL much, but I am a teacher too and have looked a bit at teacher salary/vs. cost of living. FL seems to be, as the other poster pointed out, a no win situation. Pay is low and cost of living has gone up considerably.

Now, in the limited amount of research I have done, GA seems the best in terms of lower cost of living and quite high teacher pay (Atlanta area.)

I am dissappointed in NC, although it sounds much better than FL. You could get a home here for around $200,000 if you looked, and a teacher with 15 years of experience and an MA would make close to $45,000.

Check online for school districts of potential places. Each district typically has their salary scale posted (I am sure you already know that.) I did a lot of that before we moved here.

We came from Los Angeles last year. When I left I was making $70,000 full time.

The other thing that I didn't realize that I do now, is that teaching is SOOO different in different parts of the country......

NC has NO teacher's unions so you are at the whim of your principal and district.

A close friend moved from CA to NC and taught in both places. CA teacher unions are very strong and there are CLEAR guidelines about how long you can keep a teacher after school, etc...Here in NC, she said she worked about 40% more time than she did in CA, and made about 50% less.

See if you can find a teacher in the local area you are looking into and ask lots of questions.

Dawn

I hear you about NC and the lack of teacher security. I worked in NYC and then was a counselor in a NC school. The teachers did not even want to hear about the benefits of a union at my school. (not that I was trying hard). They felt that the staff was a big family and the principal was the dad. (I am serious). He was a great, kind man ... but what happens when he leaves or the school district cuts jobs, etc?

Anyhow, back on the OP's question: South Florida will cost you a minimum of 400,000 for a home, plus about 8,000 in taxes, plus about 3,000 in home owner insurance (with a 10,000 hurricane deductible). Teachers in palm beach county start at about 33,000 with a bachelors. There are a lot of good parochial schools (my kids went in NC) BUT the archdiocese in Palm Beach put the class size at 35. Tuition is about 5 to 7K. My kids went instead to a small private school with a little higher tuition but class size of about 15. Sports are big here so even if the school is not the best for that you will find competitive travel teams everywhere.
 
laceemouse said:
Welcome back Figmentsbiggestfan! I did not know a user name could disappear! We loved Jacksonville and we miss it! Chances are you bought your house some time ago when Jax was affordable. If we had stayed we would be in your same boat. Like I said though, we can probably never afford to come back. I'll agree with you though, lots of other places are just as expensive, but lots of other nice places are still affordable.

Thanks for the welcome back!

You know, i was going to disagree with you, but I just did a little research. I am SHOCKED, to say the least! Two years ago we sold our little starter home and bought a townhouse. (I love not having to do ANYTHING!) We paid roughly $220k for it back then, and I just checked MLS and there are similar units to ours selling for $335k right now!! Ack! They are priced similar to houses in the area, so, yep - we are WAY overpriced!!!

P. S. I did find my old user name after a lot of looking. What the password was, I have no clue. But it's OK. It was "babygarrettsmom" and "baby" Garrett is now 5! So it was definitely time for a name change.
 
FigmentsBiggestFan said:
Thanks for the welcome back!

You know, i was going to disagree with you, but I just did a little research. I am SHOCKED, to say the least! Two years ago we sold our little starter home and bought a townhouse. (I love not having to do ANYTHING!) We paid roughly $220k for it back then, and I just checked MLS and there are similar units to ours selling for $335k right now!! Ack! They are priced similar to houses in the area, so, yep - we are WAY overpriced!!!

P. S. I did find my old user name after a lot of looking. What the password was, I have no clue. But it's OK. It was "babygarrettsmom" and "baby" Garrett is now 5! So it was definitely time for a name change.
Don't know which area of town you are in, townhouses were rare when we were there, but that has probably changed. Anyhow, we lived north of Regency Square Mall, east Arlington. In 1996 we bought our dream home in the original Hidden Hills area, 3000 square feet, gated community, gorgeous trees, ect. We sold in 1999 due to dh being out of work for 6 months and getting a job in Illinois. We had paid 175 thousand and sold for a little over 200. Houses in that neighborhood are now going for 400 thousand plus! These are older homes, probably lots of them still need updating. I go to realtor.com all the time and look up our old zip code and I am shocked. Don't get me wrong, the Chicago area was just as bad (worse in some neighborhoods) but the idea that all of the southern US is cheap is unfortunately not true any more! Texas is still reasonable, but we of course now are worried that this house may not appreciate at all and we have a track record of moving every few years. Enjoy!! Like I said, we would love to come back to Florida!!....ps, They grow up so fast don't they? :)
 
laceemouse said:
Don't know which area of town you are in, townhouses were rare when we were there, but that has probably changed. Anyhow, we lived north of Regency Square Mall, east Arlington. In 1996 we bought our dream home in the original Hidden Hills area, 3000 square feet, gated community, gorgeous trees, ect. We sold in 1999 due to dh being out of work for 6 months and getting a job in Illinois. We had paid 175 thousand and sold for a little over 200. Houses in that neighborhood are now going for 400 thousand plus! These are older homes, probably lots of them still need updating. I go to realtor.com all the time and look up our old zip code and I am shocked. Don't get me wrong, the Chicago area was just as bad (worse in some neighborhoods) but the idea that all of the southern US is cheap is unfortunately not true any more! Texas is still reasonable, but we of course now are worried that this house may not appreciate at all and we have a track record of moving every few years. Enjoy!! Like I said, we would love to come back to Florida!!....ps, They grow up so fast don't they? :)


We actually lived quite close to Hidden Hills. Just east of there off Girvin Rd. A lot has changed since 2000. Hidden Hills is still QUITE desirable, no matter how old it gets.

We live off of Gate Parkway (not sure if it was here in 2000, but it's between Southside and St. Johns Bluff off of JTB) and all that is going up anywhere around here are townhouse communities. They are even switching almost all of the apartment complexes to condos. I never would have thought about a townhouse except that our house sold too quickly and we had to find somewhere to live fast. We rented for a couple of months and then decided to buy. I love having no yardwork, the pool is taken care of, gym onsite, etc. Makes life very easy.

I just never realized until this thread how expensive this place is!!
 
My suggestion is to stay out of the Miami/Ft Lauderdale area. 1 BR apartments are starting at around 200K. We sold our apt in Miami 2 years ago b/c we came to KY and were able to buy a house almost 3X the size of our apt on a huge lot AND remodel it for less than what we sold the apt for! If you want something affordable in FL you need to stay in the "podunk" towns (which don't seem like the kinds of places you are looking for esp w/ schools).
This may not be an issue for you, but you should also avoid S. Fl if you don't speak Spanish. You need to be bilingual for most jobs. And, in actuality, you are more likely to find someone in shops/other places that cannot speak English than one who can't speak Spanish.
The state website, myflorida.com may be able to give you a few answers about schools (search keyword schools).
Hope this helps.
 
FigmentsBiggestFan said:
We actually lived quite close to Hidden Hills. Just east of there off Girvin Rd. A lot has changed since 2000. Hidden Hills is still QUITE desirable, no matter how old it gets.

We live off of Gate Parkway (not sure if it was here in 2000, but it's between Southside and St. Johns Bluff off of JTB) and all that is going up anywhere around here are townhouse communities. They are even switching almost all of the apartment complexes to condos. I never would have thought about a townhouse except that our house sold too quickly and we had to find somewhere to live fast. We rented for a couple of months and then decided to buy. I love having no yardwork, the pool is taken care of, gym onsite, etc. Makes life very easy.

I just never realized until this thread how expensive this place is!!

I live off Kernan and the best thing I can say about the new houses going up here are they do wonders for my property value! I could sell my house and make $150k easily. But I couldn't afford to move into a new house the same size as what we have now. The prices and lack of a yard are insane. And now the northside seems to be catching up as far as new build prices.
 


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