They've moved up the Fantasyland rope-drop (finally)!

[HuskyGal]

Thank you for the info re lunar new year festivities.

 

[StarlitNight05]

As for my remark about not having kids... I don't know, Fantasyland and Peter Pan are very much geared toward children. It's sad that group of adults would ignore the rules and sprint to the front of the line ahead of the many kids headed toward the line. It kind of reminds me of the adults who shoulder in front of my toddler during a parade and block his view (this happens more than you might think). Shouldn't we as adults have more consideration for the little ones around us? Disneyland is for everyone but I will always step aside for a child when I'm there, it just seems like the right thing to do.

I hope this comment doesn't start a fight, I do understand that Disney is for everyone, but there are lots of rides that we adults get to enjoy that kids can't, so I feel like it's sad when the lines for the "kid" rides are so long that many kids don't get to enjoy them.

I understand what you are saying completely. I am one of those adults that doesn't have children, but loves the Fantasyland rides. That being said, I would NEVER run in front of a child, shove a child, etc. Your parade example of people blocking your son makes me really sad. When MSEP rolled back around last year, we had camped out on the curb for quite sometime (sitting of course). As the parade began, I noticed the little girl behind me was struggling to see... I scooted as close to my DH as I could and told the mother of the child her daughter could sit next to me if she wanted. The little girl was estatic. It's things like that that make DLR special to me. It is supposed to be a happy place!

 

[SOCALMouseMommy]

I understand what you are saying completely. I am one of those adults that doesn't have children, but loves the Fantasyland rides. That being said, I would NEVER run in front of a child, shove a child, etc. Your parade example of people blocking your son makes me really sad. When MSEP rolled back around last year, we had camped out on the curb for quite sometime (sitting of course). As the parade began, I noticed the little girl behind me was struggling to see... I scooted as close to my DH as I could and told the mother of the child her daughter could sit next to me if she wanted. The little girl was estatic. It's things like that that make DLR special to me. It is supposed to be a happy place!

You are so sweet! That is a special memory that child and her parents will probably remember for a long time.

I also enjoy the Fantasyland rides outright, kids or not. The original rides are wonderful. But I would let a child go ahead of me in a heartbeat. I wouldn't mind waiting a bit longer if I was by myself.

Once during a parade I had arrived early and had my son in his stroller facing the parade route. Several other moms did the same thing. Right before the parade started a man walked over and stood in front of all those children and held his iPad up so he could record the entire parade, blocking their view. It was so crazy to me. Sigh...

 

[DisneylandDarling]

They ask you to please not run in the announcement. It's not safe in a crowd situation. So I guess I just have to roll my eyes at the people blatantly ignoring the rules so they can be "first" (like you said, is there much difference between first and 20th). I also think it sets a bad example for the many children around when an announcement asks you to not run and then some people just disregard it, especially adults. Shouldn't we as adults be setting a good example for kids (all kids, not just our own)?

As for my remark about not having kids... I don't know, Fantasyland and Peter Pan are very much geared toward children. It's sad that group of adults would ignore the rules and sprint to the front of the line ahead of the many kids headed toward the line. It kind of reminds me of the adults who shoulder in front of my toddler during a parade and block his view (this happens more than you might think). Shouldn't we as adults have more consideration for the little ones around us? Disneyland is for everyone but I will always step aside for a child when I'm there, it just seems like the right thing to do.

I hope this comment doesn't start a fight, I do understand that Disney is for everyone, but there are lots of rides that we adults get to enjoy that kids can't, so I feel like it's sad when the lines for the "kid" rides are so long that many kids don't get to enjoy them.

Thanks for replying back, I appreciate your perspective.

I do agree all adults need to set a better example for kids (the amount of cursing we heard in front of kids last time we were there was appalling). And it does say to walk, and several CMs do remind people that they need to walk. I agree that people shouldn't blatantly ignore the rules, however this has never been as big of a frustration to us as many feel here (not right or wrong, just a difference in opinion), even when we've had young kids in our party. Our wait has never jumped more than a few minutes by having a few (or 6...7,8, whatever) parties in front of us who ran.

I feel that the parade example is a bit different. I hate when anyone (adults, families, etc) comes in at the last second and tries to shove others out of the way for prime curb space. However, having adults (or anyone really, not just adults) in line in front of children isn't going to obstruct the ride or view. Sure, those who are behind will get on a couple seconds after, but that isn't limiting anyone's experience like it does at parades/shows. The part that I'm having trouble with is saying one person's time is more deserving than another's. I'm sure that's not how you're meaning it at all, but that's what comes to mind when I've heard different arguments made that adults shouldn't meet with characters, or hold curb space for the parade, or shouldn't ride the "kiddie" rides, etc.

I think we can both agree to disagree! I like that there are discussion boards like this where both sides can get their point in.

 

[DisneylandDarling]

I understand what you are saying completely. I am one of those adults that doesn't have children, but loves the Fantasyland rides. That being said, I would NEVER run in front of a child, shove a child, etc. Your parade example of people blocking your son makes me really sad. When MSEP rolled back around last year, we had camped out on the curb for quite sometime (sitting of course). As the parade began, I noticed the little girl behind me was struggling to see... I scooted as close to my DH as I could and told the mother of the child her daughter could sit next to me if she wanted. The little girl was estatic. It's things like that that make DLR special to me. It is supposed to be a happy place!

That's so sweet! We always try to watch for the little ones as well who are behind and have them scoot up to see. Most of the time the parents/kids are so sweet and thankful! Definitely part of the Disney magic!

 

[SOCALMouseMommy]

The part that I'm having trouble with is saying one person's time is more deserving than another's. I'm sure that's not how you're meaning it at all, but that's what comes to mind when I've heard different arguments made that adults shouldn't meet with characters, or hold curb space for the parade, or shouldn't ride the "kiddie" rides, etc.

I think we can both agree to disagree! I like that there are discussion boards like this where both sides can get their point in.

I think we agree more than we disagree! And I definitely don't think anyone is more or less deserving of enjoying all the wonderfulness Disney has to offer. Adults have every right to meet with characters and ride the kiddie rides and watch the parades. I just think sometimes people aren't thinking about others around them (not on purpose). In the case of the parade, that man was blocking the view of several children (since they were seated in strollers). One (bolder than me) mom even asked the man if he would sit or step to the side so he wasn't blocking the kids' view and he refused. So all of the moms got their kids out of their respective strollers (as the parade was already going on) and tried to find ways for them to see. It was sad because he could have adjusted his position and still recorded the parade. Anyway, that is an extreme situation and one that obviously stuck with me. It didn't ruin our day or anything (not by a long shot), but it just had me shaking my head.

 

[Kippa-Dee-Do-Dah]

Just wanted to comment on stroller parking for PP - you can park it right in front of the carousel. We got smart on our second trip and I had my DH park the stroller while the kids and I got in line for PP. And we left it there while we did other rides in that area (Alice, Teacups, Carousel, etc) instead of moving it for each ride. Saves SO much time and energy!

 

[HydroGuy]

Any more reports on the rope drop location?

 

[Howry]

I look forward to the day when its only legal to smoke in your house. It will come. Alabama will be the first stepping stone.

One other thing. Rarely do I see this but when I do, it irks me severely. A woman was smoking well outside of the designated smoking area. Why she didn't simply walk down the remaining 100 feet or so to the smoking area is a mystery. In 2018, no one can reasonably claim not to know that there are designated smoking areas, especially in a child-centric place like Disneyland.
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Oddly, moments after I took this, a woman walked by and lit up right in front of me. A security CM approached her and explained where the designated smoking areas were. She got sarcastic with him - he told me as he walked by me . She was even younger than the woman pictured above. She should know better. It bothers me when people behave selfishly. Smoking in public areas especially with a concentration of children is highly selfish/thoughtless.

 

[az4boys]

My sister was at the rope in front of the castle this morning. When they got to Peter Pan there was a 30 minute wait. Crowds must have been let in from another direction and sooner than the castle rope. Is there a rope drop at the passageways on the sides of the castle? I think it would have taken too long to go around Alice and come back to PP.

 

[chickapin parterre]

My sister was at the rope in front of the castle this morning. When they got to Peter Pan there was a 30 minute wait. Crowds must have been let in from another direction and sooner than the castle rope. Is there a rope drop at the passageways on the sides of the castle? I think it would have taken too long to go around Alice and come back to PP.

This is abnormal....so some questions

was your sister touching the rope?
How did she know that the wait was 30 mins?

is it possible that she saw the sign from previus night and she thought it was crowded because not all the chains had been open?

In my experinces, I touching the rope and not exceeding the UPS shuffle, have found that the chains are not open but everyone is funneled into the straight on loading chain, then divert in for the first loop, with the CM starting outside and opening up loops of many loops. If one has not done it before, and they encounter the long line pouring out of the above configuration, it surely looks long and if the sigh says 30 mins, then it looks 30 mins. But consider this, there is only one CM at the opening of the chains, they are waiting for inspection to be cleared, if that happens at the hour of rope drop, them CM is somewhat hindered to open and control the maze. the onslaught of runners overcome the CM and bunches up really fast.

 

[agamble]

I look forward to the day when its only legal to smoke in your house. It will come. Alabama will be the first stepping stone.

I hope you mean your property. People shouldn't smoke in the house (or car), especially if children live there.

 

[az4boys]

This is abnormal....so some questions

was your sister touching the rope?
How did she know that the wait was 30 mins?

is it possible that she saw the sign from previus night and she thought it was crowded because not all the chains had been open?

In my experinces, I touching the rope and not exceeding the UPS shuffle, have found that the chains are not open but everyone is funneled into the straight on loading chain, then divert in for the first loop, with the CM starting outside and opening up loops of many loops. If one has not done it before, and they encounter the long line pouring out of the above configuration, it surely looks long and if the sigh says 30 mins, then it looks 30 mins. But consider this, there is only one CM at the opening of the chains, they are waiting for inspection to be cleared, if that happens at the hour of rope drop, them CM is somewhat hindered to open and control the maze. the onslaught of runners overcome the CM and bunches up really fast.

I don't know exactly how close she was to the rope, but I know the wait was 30 minutes because she stood in line for 30 minutes.

 

[Skyegirl1999]

My sister was at the rope in front of the castle this morning. When they got to Peter Pan there was a 30 minute wait. Crowds must have been let in from another direction and sooner than the castle rope. Is there a rope drop at the passageways on the sides of the castle? I think it would have taken too long to go around Alice and come back to PP.

I don't know exactly how close she was to the rope, but I know the wait was 30 minutes because she stood in line for 30 minutes.

Unless she was AT the rope and HUSTLED, that’s not at all surprising.

That’s a large part of why people run... (not saying I agree with it)

That’s also why I tell people that unless you’re willing to be right at the rope and hustle, don’t bother going to PP first. In that 30 minutes, she could have done several other Fantasyland rides! And then she could have picked up PP for maybe a 35-40 minute wait later in the day (actually, it was posted as a 30 minute wait mid-afternoon today), but at a time when ALL the rides take nearly that long...

It’s also possible that the ride didn’t start running for several minutes, which backs it up, too.

 

[Winnowill]

In my experience, PP is always posted 30 minutes first thing in the morning. Even when we're the first ones in line, it's posted 30 minutes.

 

[Skyegirl1999]

In my experience, PP is always posted 30 minutes first thing in the morning. Even when we're the first ones in line, it's posted 30 minutes.

This is true in my experience, too, but she specified that the actual wait was 30 minutes, so that’s not all that was happening in this case...