They say its a buyer's market - so instead of selling our old house should we just re

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Our realtor advised us to consider renting our old house instead of selling it until there is more of an upturn in the housing market. Our old house is completely paid for. We have never been landlords before. We do live in the same town as this house. Should we consider renting it or just fix it up and sell it?
 
My sister had a rent house and always had to deal with a big mess each time someone moved out
You also have to be "handy" or get reliable people to do repairs
 
Renting out a home "can" be an absolute nightmare.. I know of several people who have done it and in all cases it turned out very badly..

My brother rented out my mom's townhouse before it had to be sold.. It was only 3 years old.. He got references; did credit checks; the whole nine yards.. First 2 or 3 months, fine - no problems.. Then they refused to pay the water bill they were responsible for.. Next they stopped paying rent.. Finally my brother went to court to have them evicted and even then, it took 3 MORE months to get them out.. Everything was wrecked inside - walls ceilings had to be repainted; all of the carpeting throughout had to be replaced; they broke the washer and dryer; two bathrooms that were a mess (one with a broken toilet, the other with a broken sink).. It cost him a small fortune to get it back up to par so he could sell it.. Took them to small claims court for damages above and beyond the norm and they had skipped the state..

Personally I wouldn't chance it - but good luck with whatever decision you make..:santa:
 
I just got through this exact situation. I hated being a landlord... with the rent, we were about break-even during that time, however, when you start to add in the hassle factor and the wear and tear that I had to fix at the end, it wasn't worth it.

If you decide to rent:
1) list through a realtor. Yes, you'll pay a commission, but they also should do the credit check, reference check, etc. It is also an advantage to use their lease, which probably has been legally vetted and is more air tight.
2) document document document. take photos of the house before they move it.
3) figure out your true carrying cost. It isn't just the mortgage.
also include:
- property tax
- insurance
- any maintenance items that you must cover (for example, I was responsible for:
=> pest control
=> septic pumping
=> sprinkler turn-on/blowing out (I also paid part of the water bill. They didn't want to run the sprinkler to water the lawn. I didn't want my lawn to die, so in summer months, we agreed that I would pay the water bill above a certain amount.)
=> fertilizing the lawn
=> heating/air conditioning service contract which covered filter changing, etc.
4) expect to pay some money at the end to fix things... that may not be covered under the security deposit... small nicks, etc. in the paint, floors, etc.

I had damage that I never expected:
- dented the stainless steel built-in fridge. I got a new 'skin' for the front of it, but it was *expensive*. I took this out of their security deposit, since I was lucky and had good pictures before and after that clearly showed the damage. I also had an email from the tenant saying they were playing ball in the kitchen and broke one of the pendant lights, so I could document that they were doing something that could damage it.
- re-painted the basement. They did things down there above and beyond normal wear and tear that I could document. (ie. green pool chalk all over the walls near the pool table + divots/dents in wall).
- an oven rack missing. I know, huh? I found out later they had thrown it away. I ordered a new one and charged them.
- broken pendant lights in the kitchen. I was lucky that they still sell them and I could get replacements.
- broken screen door. Not repairable, so I just took it off and repainted the trim and pretended it wasn't there. was able to charge them.
- missing window grilles. all I could figure is that they were cleaning and broke them. I replaced them and charged them.

there were other little things that I couldn't charge for:
- something hot on formica countertop in basement - melted the top.
- stained carpet that couldn't get clean.
- holes in linoleum in laundry room.
- carpet.

they were 'perfect' tenants according to their history and references. I was lucky that I could document everything and they called about 2 weeks after I returned the (small) remainder of their security deposit back. They threatened to take me to small claims court, but after we talked, they backed off. They cashed the check 2 months later and I haven't heard a thing.

so.... that's my story. I'm sticking with it. Just go in with your eyes very very very wide open.

(btw, I hated worrying about that middle of the night phone call: "our heat is out, our water doesn't work, etc etc")
 

I think that is poor advice unless you want to BE a landlord. You own the house and can afford to let the house go at any price.

So the question becomes is there a number you NEED to hit with the sale? Is there a number you will not go below? Can you afford to have it "on the market" for an extended period until it sells?

And what needs to be fixed?

Answer those questions first to determine what you should do.
 
Renting can give you some nice tax advantages and being in the same town will help. Since you don't carry a mortgage it can be income generating for the next couple years. It can be a hassle but it can be good too. We have been renting out our old house for the past 3 years to the same renters. They have taken VERY good care of the house and are on top of anything that needs to be fixed. It has worked out very well for us (I know it doesn't always work out like that).

I agree with others, do background checks, get references, collect a large security deposit and REQUIRE them to carry renter's insurance so IF they damage the house you have recourse for paying for the repairs.

You could list it through a property maintenance company but since you will be living in the same town, I wouldn't go that route. You give up control over who lives there.

Oh and we do a month to month lease, not a yearly one. We wanted to be able to kick them out easier if it didn't work out.
 
Our realtor advised us to consider renting our old house instead of selling it until there is more of an upturn in the housing market. Our old house is completely paid for. We have never been landlords before. We do live in the same town as this house. Should we consider renting it or just fix it up and sell it?

If you can find the right people to rent then rent it. You really have to put time and money into finding the right people. You also might try to look at a lease to own type thing
 
If the only reason you want to rent it is to wait out the housing market, I would say just sell it.
I am a landlord and it is not for the faint of heart. It is not a totally horrible experience either but it does take work.
We own 2 properties. One is in Philadelphia. this property we have a management company. Yes it cuts into our profits but we don't have to worry about rent collection, background checks, evictions etc etc. The management company handles all of that.
Our other property is a condo at the shore so it's a different animal.

Anyway, Our properties are really investments for us. It is part of our entire retirement portfolio so for us the work will hopefully reap great benefits when we hit 65, 70 & 80.
 















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