The Walking Dead on AMC

[JenM]

46 Things You'll Only Find Funny if You Watch The Walking Dead:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/things-youll-only-find-funny-if-you-watch-the-walking-dead

Daryl is never going to live down that cry face.

 

[Cat0727]

46 Things You'll Only Find Funny if You Watch The Walking Dead:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/things-youll-only-find-funny-if-you-watch-the-walking-dead

Daryl is never going to live down that cry face.

the cry face is epic!

 

[micknpluto]

To quote Dale in Season 1
To Andrea :
"You don't get to do that. Come into somebody's life, make them care, and then just check out." ...

They let her check out.

 

[JenM]

Interview with Dallas Roberts (Milton). He explains the original death scene, which sounds a lot more gruesome than what we saw:

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/04/01/the-walking-dead-dallas-roberts-milton-andrea/

EW: Yeah, I know you guys originally shot a much different version of this whole scene. Walk me through how it was originally shot.

ROBERTS: Originally, the beating scene that started the episode wasn’t there. Originally, I showed up and was led into the room where Andrea was and I took the tools out – the instruments of torture that were laid on the table — and then he shot me in the stomach, completely unexpectedly. And then I was left to bleed out in the same idea basically — you’re going to kill her now. There was a lot more of Milton trying to open the door and him trying to free her from the chains. And then there was a section where he was going to wrap the chain around the neck and try to choke her to death before he turned so she wouldn’t have to deal with Walker Milton, or Biter Milton, as it were.

And then at the end of that, it was just Tyreese and someone else who found her. Rick and Daryl and Michonne weren’t there. So it was essentially the same idea, except you saw me taking chunks out of Laurie Holden in that version. And then they called us back a few months later to reshoot it and made all those changes. So now you’re not sure if I’ve gotten her until after that door opens, and I think that’s probably why they did it.

EW: So they actually shot the scene of you as a zombie biting into her?

ROBERTS: Yeah. It’s funny, in the articles and on Talking Dead last night, you’ll notice stills of Milton where he has glasses on [Ed Note: See picture above!]. They are from the scenes that we shot and weren’t aired. Because Milton gets his glasses knocked off and never has glasses in the interrogation scene in this finale. But I’ve seen a lot of pictures where Milton has blood on his mouth and glasses on that were from that first shooting.

EW: So tell me about the part where you were trying to strangle her.

ROBERTS: They both desperately wanted for that to work but at that point he had bled out so much. So he pulls and pulls and pulls but he doesn’t get it done and he falls against the wall and is passed out. And he never comes back from that until he turns into a walker.

EW: When you came back to do the reshoot, was that after Glen Mazzara had moved off the show?

ROBERTS: Yes, it was after he and AMC had decided to part, but he was still theoretically in charge of the back half of the season. I didn’t see him there. I don’t know if we was in L.A. pulling those strings. Scott Gimple, who ended up taking the showrunner position, was there, so some of those changes may have come from him.

Hope it's included on the DVD.

 

[PolyAddict]

To quote Dale in Season 1
To Andrea :
"You don't get to do that. Come into somebody's life, make them care, and then just check out." ...

They let her check out.

I like this! I feel like they let a lot of things "check out"....like the whole season. I hated what happened to Andrea's character, she was fine in the original group.

 

[skylizard]

As far as season finales go, I thought this one was poorly done. They seemed to rush thru the episode, jumping around quite a bit. Why didn't they just make it a 90 minute or 2 hour episode? Surely they had more than enough to fill in for that
I was actually hoping Merle and Andrea wouldn't be killed off. Why do they need to keep killing off characters? Unless they bring in some new ones, there's hardly going to be anyone left. I know they brought in the rest of the Woodbury residents, but they're just seniors and children. I doubt there'd be much of a story line there.
And I was annoyed that they let the governor live. I guess they need to keep him alive for a future episode.
Even though I wasn't happy with the finale, I'll still be watching next season

 

[jgh]

Yeah, Milton gave me that creepy vibe too.
Since we are talking about TWD & LOST similarities, the opening scene w/the Gov's eye is totally LOST.

I actually mentioned that when the finale started on Sunday.

 

[JenM]

I know they brought in the rest of the Woodbury residents, but they're just seniors and children. I doubt there'd be much of a story line there.

Considering where they seem to be going with Carl, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a Woodbury resident in that group who was related to the kid he shot. Maybe a little brother or sister, or a grandparent who depended on that kid. Might be a nice-wakeup call for Carl, to understand that there are consequences for the choices he makes.

 

[JenM]

Yeah, Milton gave me that creepy vibe too.
Since we are talking about TWD & LOST similarities, the opening scene w/the Gov's eye is totally LOST.

The eye was also similar to the first shot of Season 3, which zoomed out from a walker's eye.

 

[OhioStateBuckeye]

My thoughts:

Carl: I get the direction they want us to think he is going and that is fine. But I would have shot that boy as well. He had old man Hershel, girl crush Beth, and his baby sister right there. He was the main protector. If I tell a stranger (who is part of an army trying to kill me and my friends) to put his gun down, and not only does he not put the gun down but takes steps towards me, I would have shot him too. You don't take chances with your helpless baby sister right there.

Andrea: I was ok with her death. Wish Milton would have lived, I think he is an interesting character that we don't really have anyone else like.

Maggie and Glenn: All this episode I winced when they were on screen, kept expecting them to get sniped or bit. I don't think happiness is allowed in the zombie apocalypse.

Governor: I'm ok with him surviving. I think he can be useful to the plot next season.

Karen: wasn't that her son that Carl shot? Better not let her know. Also I really hope she isn't an automatic love interest.

Season 4: I wonder if we'll do another time jump? They don't seem to like to show winters on this show. If it does a time jump, I hope we see how everyone has made the prison a real home. All the prison yard should be planted with crops, people should make little homes out of the cells and be playing games and reading (prisons gotta have a library). Then the Governor can show up out of nowhere at the mid season finale and cause chaos.

 

[skylizard]

Karen: wasn't that her son that Carl shot? Better not let her know. Also I really hope she isn't an automatic love interest.

It wasn't. That kid was part of the group that found them in the prison. Remember they were running from the zombies and found a breach in the back part of the prison. Tyreese and Sasha were part of that group. The kid, his dad and mom(?) were the rest. But the mom got bit by a zombie and ended up being put down in the prison. So it was just the kid, dad, Tyreese and Sasha that made it into the prison when Carl found them and led them in. Tyreese and Sasha wanted to stay in the prison and help out, whereas the dad and kid just want to kill everyone in the prison and take it for themselves. So the kid was bad news to begin with and most likely would've shot Carl, Hershel, Beth and baby.

 

[OhioStateBuckeye]

It wasn't. That kid was part of the group that found them in the prison. Remember they were running from the zombies and found a breach in the back part of the prison. Tyreese and Sasha were part of that group. The kid, his dad and mom(?) were the rest. But the mom got bit by a zombie and ended up being put down in the prison. So it was just the kid, dad, Tyreese and Sasha that made it into the prison when Carl found them and led them in. Tyreese and Sasha wanted to stay in the prison and help out, whereas the dad and kid just want to kill everyone in the prison and take it for themselves. So the kid was bad news to begin with and most likely would've shot Carl, Hershel, Beth and baby.

I thought that kid (Ben) was the one who Merle shot who got in front of the governor.

 

[elgerber]

It wasn't. That kid was part of the group that found them in the prison. Remember they were running from the zombies and found a breach in the back part of the prison. Tyreese and Sasha were part of that group. The kid, his dad and mom(?) were the rest. But the mom got bit by a zombie and ended up being put down in the prison. So it was just the kid, dad, Tyreese and Sasha that made it into the prison when Carl found them and led them in. Tyreese and Sasha wanted to stay in the prison and help out, whereas the dad and kid just want to kill everyone in the prison and take it for themselves. So the kid was bad news to begin with and most likely would've shot Carl, Hershel, Beth and baby.

That kid was killed by Merle I thought, the week before?

 

[Oh Hia]

It wasn't. That kid was part of the group that found them in the prison. Remember they were running from the zombies and found a breach in the back part of the prison. Tyreese and Sasha were part of that group. The kid, his dad and mom(?) were the rest. But the mom got bit by a zombie and ended up being put down in the prison. So it was just the kid, dad, Tyreese and Sasha that made it into the prison when Carl found them and led them in. Tyreese and Sasha wanted to stay in the prison and help out, whereas the dad and kid just want to kill everyone in the prison and take it for themselves. So the kid was bad news to begin with and most likely would've shot Carl, Hershel, Beth and baby.

The kid with Tyreese's group was Ben, and he was shot by Merle. It was the episode where Merle was turned into a zombie.

Merle was aiming at the governor and, the moment he fired the gun, Ben stepped in front of the governor and was killed instead.

I don't know who the kid Carl killed was, he didn't look familiar at all.

 

[JenM]

Yep, Ben was the kid from Tyrese's group, and he was shot by Merle.

There was a kid a named Noah in the Governor's army, who was asthmatic, but that wasn't the kid Carl shot either. I think the Talking Dead's "In Memorium" sketch said the kid's name was Jody.

I just re-watched the episode where the Governor was putting together his army. According to Milton, they had 20 volunteers, including one with arthritis and another with hearing problems (the Governor excused the old woman with arthritis). After he made them add in the teenagers over 13, their total came to 35 - including the asthmatic Noah.

No wonder they ran.

 

[RC Fan]

My thoughts:
But I would have shot that boy as well. He had old man Hershel, girl crush Beth, and his baby sister right there. He was the main protector. If I tell a stranger (who is part of an army trying to kill me and my friends) to put his gun down, and not only does he not put the gun down but takes steps towards me, I would have shot him too. You don't take chances with your helpless baby sister right there.

I was very suspicious of the way the kid was trying to hand the shotgun to Carl. It sure looked to me that the kid was going to fire the shotgun rather than hand it over.

 

[Sherry E]

Let me take the time to thank everyone here for allowing discussion and providing a place to discuss the intricacies of this show, as well as not putting a ban on chat about the show immediately after an episode airs. While it's frowned upon to talk about spoilers before an episode airs, I'm soooo glad that we can freely come here and talk about it as soon as the show has aired and that we don't have to wait.

I was just listening to the Howard Stern Show, and Robin Quivers was eager to talk about TWD finale both yesterday and today. I think she wanted to discuss the Carl plot, based on what she was hinting at. Howard kept trying to shut her up because he said that too many people have complained that she spoils things and reveals plot points. So Howard didn't want to get in a chat about it.

Meanwhile, I feel that people who are diehard fans of the show will either watch it on the night it airs or the next morning, and people want to talk about it while it is current, relevant and newsworthy. They don't want to talk about it in 2 weeks or in 2 months. We want to discuss the show while it is fresh on our minds and currently in the news (TWD finale scored the highest ratings of the series on Sunday, so it is still in the news), and it's a buzzkill to have to wait for other people to catch up.

 

[skylizard]

My apologies, I was wrong. It was just one of the woodbury kids we didn't know. I still think Carl did the right thing.

 

[JenM]

I was very suspicious of the way the kid was trying to hand the shotgun to Carl. It sure looked to me that the kid was going to fire the shotgun rather than hand it over.

I think that was what got him killed. If he'd dropped the gun, maybe Carl wouldn't have shot him. In that pause, that kid looked like he was going to try something stupid, and that's why Carl shot.

The sad part is, that kid was probably as scared as they were, which is probably why he hesitated.

 

[Oh Hia]

My apologies, I was wrong. It was just one of the woodbury kids we didn't know. I still think Carl did the right thing.

I agree with you. If the kid had dropped the gun immediately and begun backing up, then it would have been a different story. The kid held the gun in the air and continued walking towards the group, that doesn't exactly put a person at ease. Carl did what he had to do to protect the people with him.