The walking dead amc #2

[pocomom]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/28/enter...daryl-thr-feat0135PMStoryLink&linkId=22777531
Daryl definitely shot.

 

[phorsenuf]

I think it is Morgan that they have. That guy he was tracking was a survivor, at least that is my guess.

They can have him.

 

[nugov2]

They can have him.

Lol, now that would make the finale great if rick and co. said go ahead and keep him, we don't want him

 

[phinz]

I think he is fine, just an arm wound. I think Dwight is in for a reeeeaaaaaaallllllyyyyy bad death.

Not gonna happen. Dwight is far too important a character in the Negan story arc. Perhaps later, but not next season.

And everybody is assuming Daryl was shot. There were two people holding guns, but there were two outliers, Morgan and Carol, from Alexandria who also had guns. We heard Dwight say, "He's alright." There was nothing said by the other Savior.

That said, I believe Daryl is a dead man walking. Norman Reedus has a new show coming out on AMC. He's been stealing thunder from the story line since early on, causing other characters to be killed or marginalized just for the sake of keeping a character who doesn't even exist in the canon alive and viable. The past few episodes he has had very little importance in the story, often just being an afterthought to the plotline. His time has come.

Note that in The Talking Dead the host said that if Daryl died he wasn't going to be hosting, and they've already announced that Reedus would be on the show. I wouldn't be surprised if he's the host. They've also thrown the "surprise guest" thing out of whack a few times, so announcing Reedus ahead of time is most likely intended to just throw people off of the scent.

Of course, they could just follow the comic books to a letter for this one. I wouldn't be averse to that either.

I'm not really dreading the Negan season. It's the season after Negan that worries me. *That* group, and specifically their leader, has me terrified beyond reason.

 

[nugov2]

Not gonna happen. Dwight is far too important a character in the Negan story arc. Perhaps later, but not next season.

And everybody is assuming Daryl was shot. There were two people holding guns, but there were two outliers, Morgan and Carol, from Alexandria who also had guns. We heard Dwight say, "He's alright." There was nothing said by the other Savior.

That said, I believe Daryl is a dead man walking. Norman Reedus has a new show coming out on AMC. He's been stealing thunder from the story line since early on, causing other characters to be killed or marginalized just for the sake of keeping a character who doesn't even exist in the canon alive and viable. The past few episodes he has had very little importance in the story, often just being an afterthought to the plotline. His time has come.

Note that in The Talking Dead the host said that if Daryl died he wasn't going to be hosting, and they've already announced that Reedus would be on the show. I wouldn't be surprised if he's the host. They've also thrown the "surprise guest" thing out of whack a few times, so announcing Reedus ahead of time is most likely intended to just throw people off of the scent.

Of course, they could just follow the comic books to a letter for this one. I wouldn't be averse to that either.

I'm not really dreading the Negan season. It's the season after Negan that worries me. *That* group, and specifically their leader, has me terrified beyond reason.

Both Norman reedus and TWD confirmed it was Daryl who was shot. Also the show on AMC is already completed, so that won't be a factor in if he lives or dies.

I don't really think he takes away from the story, but I also don't feel confident he is for sure safe. I actually think him being shot and as a guest on TWD now points that it won't be him facing the bat or another untimely demise, it would feel very anticlimactic and would have been much better if he just got it unexpectedly. It will be interesting to see how it plays out though.

I am looking forward to the next season. I feel like they've jumped the track a bit and it lost some of what made the show special and think next season will be very redeeming.

 

[wdhinn89]

Daryl was definitely shot. There are screen shots out showing he was hit in the shoulder.

 

[jetskigrl]

OK - I admit it. This was another one of those episodes that had me yelling at the TV. "Make good choices people!!" What they all did, leaving Alexandria, going in separate directions, etc was stupid and irresponsible. They know an attack is coming and most of their best fighters go off and leave Alexandria unprotected??

Then they go stomping through the woods where they know these guys are/have been just casually strolling along, chatting it up. OMG....guys, wise up. Bad things happen when you let your guard down. And you are walking around like you are taking a Sunday stroll??

I hope that Daryl's wound was just to ensure that he can't shoot or use his crossbow, etc (make him easier to control). I'm assuming at this point they want them all alive while they wait for Negan. I also hope that Maggie doesn't lose the baby but that seems to be where they are going with that.

 

[anniemae]

It was Daryl who was shot. Hang on for my thoughts, it may get lengthy! Some we discussed before, but here goes:

The more I think about it, the more I think it will be Rosita who meets Lucille. TWD have created a growing list of untouchables. These are characters that I feel they will never kill off. The ones the fans are too invested in. I feel that list is: Rick, Carl, Carol, Michonne, Glenn, Maggie, Daryl, Abraham, and Eugene. I think there is a second tier of characters that I kind of equate to "middle management" LOL! These are characters that we love and care about, but they are not untouchable. These characters I think are Sasha, Rosita, Tara, and Morgan (I think Abraham and Eugene were in this category but have since moved up.) Then we have the ones nobody really cares about, like the guy Carol is hooking up with, Deanna's son (can't remember their names) and the rest of Alexandria.

I think the ones the writers will kill would be the middle management crowd. I think the kiss of death on TWD is when a "background" character suddenly has lines and a plot. This is exactly what happened when T-Dog was killed. He was always there, always in the background, never having many lines. Then suddenly he had lines, I remember turning to DH and saying, "wow, he suddenly is speaking and not standing in the background!" Next thing we knew, he was killed off. This is exactly what I think is happening with Rosita. She was really just Abrahams bed buddy. She was always there, but in the background. Never had a story line, never had many lines etc. So we didn't get attached to her. In the last few weeks, she has been taken from the background and suddenly has lines, a plot etc. Abraham broke up with her, she was there when the whole Denise debacle when down, she went off with Daryl last night. I think they are building her up, getting us to like her, just to take her out.

I think the writers have backed themselves into a corner and can't kill the untouchables. They know the viewers are too attached to them. It was easier to kill of characters in the first few seasons since we weren't really attached to them yet, now after all this time, it is harder and harder to kill them off. I think they introduce characters to kill them off, to satisfy the viewers need for a "death" it is the apocalypse after all. There have been many times they killed off a character that we all "kind of liked" but didn't really know yet, Like Deanna, Denise and Jessie. They have to have an impact and drama for the viewers without killing the main characters. That is what I think anyway. I am probably totally wrong though! BTW if they do kill off Rosita, I think it is a cheap trick. She's great and everything, but I wouldn't think of her death as shocking, upsetting or a game changer in any way. I just think the writers feel they have to deliver a "big" death without causing viewers to freak out and this is there answer! LOL!

 

[Colleen27]

Killing daryl that way would be even more lame than how they saved Glen. I feel pretty confident that it is in the arm because he didn't want to risk himself getting killed and wants daryl injured for a little insurance.

That's how I interpreted it too. Dwight knows he isn't likely to hold that group if they're all healthy. They've killed too many of Negan's people for him to think just tying them up will do it. But he's also seen enough of them to know they're not going to leave one of their own behind. So he injured the biggest "threat" in the group - remember, he's seen a lot of Daryl but not much (any?) of Michonne - as a hedge against an escape attempt.

DD and I have been speculating for weeks about who will get to meet Lucille, and I don't think it is going to be either of the two that have gotten the most buzz about that particular scene. I do think it is going to be someone on the "unkillable" list, but I think we're going to be shocked by who it is.

 

[TeresaBelle]

That's how I interpreted it too. Dwight knows he isn't likely to hold that group if they're all healthy. They've killed too many of Negan's people for him to think just tying them up will do it. But he's also seen enough of them to know they're not going to leave one of their own behind. So he injured the biggest "threat" in the group - remember, he's seen a lot of Daryl but not much (any?) of Michonne - as a hedge against an escape attempt.

DD and I have been speculating for weeks about who will get to meet Lucille, and I don't think it is going to be either of the two that have gotten the most buzz about that particular scene. I do think it is going to be someone on the "unkillable" list, but I think we're going to be shocked by who it is.

I may have to take bereavement leave next Monday! :'(

 

[swandiverpatt]

I'm not sure where the spoiler button is, but will post in white text and if you can see the white text and don't want to read a spoiler, turn away:

I had read online that Carol committed suicide in the comics -- but a lot earlier than in the story now (her character was very different, too). I could see that happening with the way they've been writing her story arc right now.

 

[phinz]

I'm not sure where the spoiler button is, but will post in white text and if you can see the white text and don't want to read a spoiler, turn away:

That character was supposed to die in the first season but didn't. I don't think it's plausible now unless that character takes out a bunch of others in the process.

 

[hopemax]

I think it will play out like the comic. As many changes as the show has had, certain moments still end up playing out the same, like Carl losing his eye earlier in the season. This will be one of those moments. They're just hoping all the misdirection will make it still come off as shocking and unexpected.

 

[crazee4mickey]

On the Talking Dead, Denise Huth (co-executive producer) confirmed Daryl was shot by Dwight but is alive...trying to remember if she said in the shoulder, thought she did but anyone else watch Talking Dead and remember?

 

[Colleen27]

I may have to take bereavement leave next Monday! :'(

I'm not even going to be home to watch! We're going to be traveling in Canada, and I have no idea whether or not our hotel gets AMC! If it doesn't, I am going to lose my mind trying to avoid spoilers until we come home on Tuesday.

 

[Wendy31]

On the Talking Dead, Denise Huth (co-executive producer) confirmed Daryl was shot by Dwight but is alive...trying to remember if she said in the shoulder, thought she did but anyone else watch Talking Dead and remember?

I don't remember her saying specifically either, but I do remember her clearly saying it was Daryl that was shot.

I don't read the comics, but I read spoilers & overviews from the comics, &, from what I've read about Negan, I don't think he's the type to outright kill a woman himself - like w/ Lucille. I could be wrong, because, again, I haven't read the comics, so I could also be wrong in my thinking that I don't think it will be one of the women that meets her demise via Lucille.

That said, as much as I love Michonne, her death wouldn't really surprise me. Like a PP said, she's had some bits of dialogue lately that almost seem rather "swan song-ish". And things are a little too cute right now between her & Rick... the apple!

I'm also scared for Daryl. I think his death would be huge! And I don't think it's a coincidence that he's on "Talking Dead" next Sunday. Plus, the producers have tried to switch things up a bit this season. Always before, if a character died, his/her presence was as an unnamed "special guest star." But, this season (especially the back season), they've had "special guest stars" who didn't die in the episode. Additionally, in the comics, isn't Abraham's character Rick's right hand man - kind of the Daryl role? And, last night, Abraham & Rick had that conversation by the gate - kinda like they're putting Abraham in place to take on that role.

However, would they really shoot Daryl in one episode & then kill him in the very next episode? I don't know... that just seems a bit anticlimactic to me.

There's a part of me that also thinks it will be Glenn & that they've just thrown out a lot of red herrings to make us all think it will be someone else, when, in actuality, it will play out as it does in the comics. Glenn has become quite the "moral compass" for the show, & y'all know what Chris Hardiwick says about the moral compasses of the show. Something Glenn said in last night's episode when he was talking to Daryl made me turn to DH & say, "Well, I guess he's the moral compass now..."

I had the following thought last night as well when they showed the preview for next week's episode during "Talking Dead," when it showed Father Gabriel telling Rick he would protect Judith w/ his life. In the comics, Judith is already dead. (Highlight the text for the spoiler from the comics). What if the death is Judith along w/ Maggie's miscarriage?

In different, separate interviews w/ Andrew Lincoln, Norman Reedus, & the actress that plays Maggie (can't remember her name right now), they've said things like the episode is "devastating," 'tragic," "nauseating"... I wish I could find the interview w/ Andrew Lincoln! I can't remember his exact words, but he said he couldn't believe it when he read the script & actually called Gimple & said, "Can we do this?" & that he felt truly nauseated for the first time ever after reading a script.

I really can't think of anything that would be more devastating than the loss of a child. (Well, except for maybe Daryl...)

And I could see something happening w/ Carol that resembles what happened to her in the comics... especially w/ the way they're writing her right now. (As an aside, I *hate* the way they're writing her right now! What happened to our Carol?!)

On the other side, I can also see an argument for Morgan... especially after his speech to Rick last night how everything comes full circle & our actions (& non-actions) cause different consequences.

All this said, I'm worried mostly for Daryl & Glenn.

And I couldn't believe how they all left Alexandria & were just walking around the woods in separate groups. Who's actually left in Alexandria? Maggie, Sasha, & Abraham? Oh, & Rick made it back last night too after leaving Morgan to find Carol.

 

[hopemax]

I also don't think Maggie will have a miscarriage. I think certain characters need to be present when the Negan meeting happens. So Rick, Carl, Maggie and Enid (surrogate for Sophia) will try to get her to the OB in Hilltop, and will be captured as well.

 

[lovin'fl]

Well I am willing to bet Lucille won't be Rick, Carl, or Darryl or any females...that's my bet. Could be Morgan, Abraham, Father Gabriel (though I think he's staying safe somewhere with Judith) or Eugene and, sadly, I still think Glen might still be possible for that. I think Carol's days are numbered as are someone in the Rosita/Sasha/Abraham triangle. I hope Morgan's days are numbered as I am tired of his kumbaya crap. And I also think Michonne's days are numbered. I too wouldn't care about Darryl going but would be distraught if Maggie or Glen died.

And they did say, on Talking Dead, that Darryl was shot in the shoulder.

 

[phinz]

Days are numbered for a *lot* of people by the time the next season ends or once the season after that begins. This next episode isn't going to be a shakeup of *nearly* the scope that is coming. Not. Even. Close.

 

[nugov2]

I also don't think Maggie will have a miscarriage. I think certain characters need to be present when the Negan meeting happens. So Rick, Carl, Maggie and Enid (surrogate for Sophia) will try to get her to the OB in Hilltop, and will be captured as well.

This makes a lot of sense. I bet you're right