The VGF 2 pricing thread

What will 200 points at VGF2 look like at launch, with incentives included?

  • Same price as Riviera, Same point chart as VGF1

    Votes: 34 14.6%
  • Same price as Riviera, higher point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 14 6.0%
  • Same price as Riviera, lower point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • A little higher than Riviera ($1-$25 more), same point chart as VGF1

    Votes: 74 31.8%
  • A little higher than Riviera ($1-$25 more), higher point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 50 21.5%
  • A little higher than Riviera ($1-$25 more), lower point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 6 2.6%
  • A lot higher than Riviera ($26+ more), same point chart as VGF1

    Votes: 39 16.7%
  • A lot higher than Riviera ($26+ more), higher point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 14 6.0%
  • A lot higher than Riviera ($26+ more), lower point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 1 0.4%

  • Total voters
    233
  • Poll closed .
No peer pressure here. The way DVC has handled this has actually made us think of selling our VGF1 points and makes us wonder how they can penalize current owners at other properties they way they have at VGF…
 
No peer pressure here. The way DVC has handled this has actually made us think of selling our VGF1 points and makes us wonder how they can penalize current owners at other properties they way they have at VGF…

What do you mean penalize?
 

What do you mean penalize?
DVC has now made it more difficult for original VGF owners to get reservations in the main building, which is what we bought. We have no interest in the resort studios. All this expansion has done is increase competition for the new building. I'll see how it shakes out, but if we have perpetual difficulty in getting Deluxe Studios or 1-bedrooms, we will probably move our VGF1 points and perhaps get more BLT.
 
DVC has now made it more difficult for original VGF owners to get reservations in the main building, which is what we bought. We have no interest in the resort studios. All this expansion has done is increase competition for the new building. I'll see how it shakes out, but if we have perpetual difficulty in getting Deluxe Studios or 1-bedrooms, we will probably move our VGF1 points and perhaps get more BLT.

That is what I thought you were referring to, but didn't want to assume. Yeah, it was always something that they gave themselves the right to do, but one of those things you never think about them actually doing.
 
DVC has now made it more difficult for original VGF owners to get reservations in the main building, which is what we bought. We have no interest in the resort studios. All this expansion has done is increase competition for the new building. I'll see how it shakes out, but if we have perpetual difficulty in getting Deluxe Studios or 1-bedrooms, we will probably move our VGF1 points and perhaps get more BLT.

agreed, it's a little bait-and-switchy for VGF1 owners
 
agreed, it's a little bait-and-switchy for VGF1 owners
I wouldn't call it that because it was clear they could add more phases to the resort if they wanted to. But, as I said, its something that owners probably never really thought about it happening...though it did when they added the treehouses to SSR...so it is not the first time but certainly the first time this change could have an impact on owners who bought prior to these new rooms.
 
Does anyone have any idea of how fast it will sell out? I have a call set up for day 1. Not sure if we will be ready to pull the trigger though. I wonder if people expect this to sell out in 1 day, 1 month 1 year?
 
Does anyone have any idea of how fast it will sell out? I have a call set up for day 1. Not sure if we will be ready to pull the trigger though. I wonder if people expect this to sell out in 1 day, 1 month 1 year?
I think most forecast a year or more. So gather your information on day 1 when you receive your call, but if you need more time to think about it, you can do so. To me, the only time limit would be whatever the end date is for the new incentives, since the best incentives/lowest total prices tend to be when the resort first goes on sale.
 
I wouldn't call it that because it was clear they could add more phases to the resort if they wanted to. But, as I said, its something that owners probably never really thought about it happening...though it did when they added the treehouses to SSR...so it is not the first time but certainly the first time this change could have an impact on owners who bought prior to these new rooms.
I'll agree with this, but I think that the issue with the VGF2 addendum is that SO many rooms of only 1 type were added to the association that it has completely changed the makeup of the resort overnight. If they would have A) added more room types to stay somewhat in line with what existed before and B) did not create a new room type that is over double the number of original rooms, then I would not be as critical of this move. Also, if they would have just made VGF2 a separate association, that would have been better, IMHO.
 
I'll agree with this, but I think that the issue with the VGF2 addendum is that SO many rooms of only 1 type were added to the association that it has completely changed the makeup of the resort overnight. If they would have A) added more room types to stay somewhat in line with what existed before and B) did not create a new room type that is over double the number of original rooms, then I would not be as critical of this move. Also, if they would have just made VGF2 a separate association, that would have been better, IMHO.

It did and I can understand those who bought liking it’s make up being upset that it was changed in such an unbalanced way.

I think that the whole new association didn’t happen here because of the complaints that Poly was only studios and DVD not wanting to make that mistake again and because it was easier to make it all one for the quick turn around.
 
Does anyone have any idea of how fast it will sell out? I have a call set up for day 1. Not sure if we will be ready to pull the trigger though. I wonder if people expect this to sell out in 1 day, 1 month 1 year?

I think 18 months to 2 years.
 
I'll agree with this, but I think that the issue with the VGF2 addendum is that SO many rooms of only 1 type were added to the association that it has completely changed the makeup of the resort overnight. If they would have A) added more room types to stay somewhat in line with what existed before and B) did not create a new room type that is over double the number of original rooms, then I would not be as critical of this move. Also, if they would have just made VGF2 a separate association, that would have been better, IMHO.

Like you said only time will tell, but there was already a very small number of studios at VGF1, right? (Only 47 I believe.) So by adding this many more studios, could it also be looked at that VGF1 owners will have a much better chance to get a studio now? You may or might not like the new studios, but presumably some percentage of VGF1 owners will. VGF1 owners who like studios only will now have a huge pool to choose from. The new studios are bigger, sleep 5 over 4, have two queen beds instead of 1 king.

And if the VGF1 owners who couldn't get a studio settled for a 1 bedroom, now move to the resort studio, that leaves more opportunity for you to get the 1-bedroom.

Just some other thoughts to consider as we watch this all play out.
 
Like you said only time will tell, but there was already a very small number of studios at VGF1, right? (Only 47 I believe.) So by adding this many more studios, could it also be looked at that VGF1 owners will have a much better chance to get a studio now? You may or might not like the new studios, but presumably some percentage of VGF1 owners will. VGF1 owners who like studios only will now have a huge pool to choose from. The new studios are bigger, sleep 5 over 4, have two queen beds instead of 1 king.

And if the VGF1 owners who couldn't get a studio settled for a 1 bedroom, now move to the resort studio, that leaves more opportunity for you to get the 1-bedroom.

Just some other thoughts to consider as we watch this all play out.
But this is going to assume that the same number of VGF1 owners wanting to try VGF2 is the same as those numbers of VGF2 owners wanting to go to VGF1. And… the pool of VGF2 points is larger.

Could it be OK? Sure, but why even take the chance that it does? IMHO, VGF2 should have been a separate association, like Copper Creek was. I would not have bought VGF originally if it had only the resort studios. I still think it’s going to be a lot harder to get a unit with 2 showers…
 
But this is going to assume that the same number of VGF1 owners wanting to try VGF2 is the same as those numbers of VGF2 owners wanting to go to VGF1. And… the pool of VGF2 points is larger.

Could it be OK? Sure, but why even take the chance that it does? IMHO, VGF2 should have been a separate association, like Copper Creek was. I would not have bought VGF originally if it had only the resort studios. I still think it’s going to be a lot harder to get a unit with 2 showers…

I thought VGF1 was 2.3 million points and VGF2 was 1.8 million ? I don't recall where I saw that.
 















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