The VGF 2 pricing thread

[AvidDisReader]

I'm one of those, but they'll do what they want (treehouses).

There is a nice post on another site that goes into this issue. The poster clearly believes that they need to "dilute" the points on the bungalows, so this new tower will definitely be part of existing Poly DVC. I originally felt that this would be a good way to kick the decision on future resorts having restrictions down the road, and still do (yes I am aware of the new Disneyland tower, but in my opinion that is a totally different circumstance since there are so few DVC rooms available in California).

 

[DVChris]

4) Base price point. I am in at $207/point base. That's what is is this month. Do they typically raise prices when points go on sale to new members? I understand the incentives will change (and not be quite a good), but I'm sort of counting on that $207. Should I be more wary?

My CM told me the base price will stay the same at $207 when it goes on sale to non-members. Incentives will differ.

 

[hbg1]

Getting caught up on the thread but figured I'd also add in that I booked our first stay for July

Going to try and go to Moonlight Magic, we'll see if we luck out with getting in but if not we've got a lake view resort studio to look forward to.

 

[sndral]

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3) Wife is travelling starting on 1 April, so paperwork may take a few days on our end. Is that any sort of issue? I'll just have to fax or email. Do they allow digital signatures, or is it pen and paper and snail mailing manually signed documents? Not a big deal, just planning out.

4) Base price point. I am in at $207/point base. That's what is is this month. Do they typically raise prices when points go on sale to new members? I understand the incentives will change (and not be quite a good), but I'm sort of counting on that $207. Should I be more wary?

Thanks for any advice or suggestions.

Very Respectfully,
Chuck

You will receive the documents via email & can sign them electronically w/ DocuSign. My son who is on the title of my DVC contracts lives in Massachusetts, I live in California & we each got a set of DocuSign documents sent to our individual emails, we each signed in our respective states & returned the documents electronically. Assuming your wife has email access on her travels she’ll have no problem signing while traveling, just make sure your guide notes both email addresses. I paid cash & thus didn’t have to notarize a mortgage document, although I understand you can do that online as well if you’re using Disney financing.
The member add on incentives effective 3/31 will be $6 off at the 150 point level https://dvcnews.com/dvc-program/financial/news-34867/5242-grand-floridian-pricing-debuts but I don’t know whether they’ll raise the base price or offer different incentives to new members.
I’d probably go ahead and make contact w/ DVC now & have a preliminary conversation w/ whichever guide they assigned to me letting them know that I was ready to buy when sales open to the public.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

I'm not so sure this is a true statement. There is still risk involved with a developer sale.

Title insurance also protects against things like clerical errors and mistakes, i.e., a typo in the unit number or processing errors by the registering county. Perhaps those would not be so hard to correct if caught right away, but as time passes, it could make for a lengthy and possibly expensive process. For me, it's worth the relatively small extra $$ amount for peace of mind.

In my experience, typically the most difficult part about a title correction is finding the party again. IF they can't be found or are unresponsive then the process gets lengthier. There may also a difference with DVC in the representative use (points) vs actual unit occupancy. Any clerical error beyond names are likely to just continue to the end of life of the product and it never will actually matter. There are various forms of title issues - encumbered ownership too which won't be applicable here. What you mention is a technicality that is an easy fix and would likely just be DVC's responsibility as developer (and their own title company subsidiary). Dean used to be particularly keen on not requiring title insurance from the Developer and that one could even do their own search for resale. I had not considered previously but I do agree with his reasoning and with my own experience with a couple of title issues. Online access has changed the ability to search down title info as well.

Then consider the odds. Pretty small. You know who they are. You will know where they are. They are the ones who would have made the mistake as it is their own subsidiary title company.

And I've never seen a report from anyone of having issues with or needing to correct a title with DVC that wasn't done immediately when they purchased. Have you? So at this point I still don't consider it to be false info because of the overall Disney control of the DVC timeshare. Property ownership, sales, titling.

 

[nuhusky123]

I’d wager if the first month or two of gfv sales to the public goes well base price will go up

 

[KTownRaider]

SEPT allows me to bank points as late as 30 APRIL, correct?

Correct. Banking date is always 8 months after the start of your use year.

 

[Chuck96]

Thanks for that advice. I have reached out to a guide we discussed DVC with in the past, so we are lined up and on his call list.

 

[CarolynFH]

2) I think a September USE YEAR makes the most sense. We typically go in SEPT/OCT (and maybe NOV, going forward) or after Christmas (JAN/early FEB). I expect in the years to come that a few summer trips will happen, but never late JUL or AUG. I'd rather eat points than walk around Orlando in AUG. SEPT allows me to bank points as late as 30 APRIL, correct? Still some risk for summer trips, but that's ok.

We have a September UY and in 20+ years have booked exactly one DVC stay in May-August. When we bought, we were routinely traveling in November, then it was mostly March, due to kids' school schedules. Now we're empty nesters, we like January and February for low point costs and (relatively) low park attendance, although we sometimes book October through early December. So I think September would be an excellent UY for you.

 

[iluvthsgam]

There is a nice post on another site that goes into this issue. The poster clearly believes that they need to "dilute" the points on the bungalows, so this new tower will definitely be part of existing Poly DVC. I originally felt that this would be a good way to kick the decision on future resorts having restrictions down the road, and still do (yes I am aware of the new Disneyland tower, but in my opinion that is a totally different circumstance since there are so few DVC rooms available in California).

Any chance you can share that link? Be curious to read more about it.

 

[Paul Stupin]

Exactly why I decided against removing it. In the end, it would be my luck to have issues!

Given what I spent, over time, that extra $340 (for the two different contracts) wasn't enough for me to worry. That worked out to about $1/point extra.

Totally agree.

 

[mamaofsix]

Just got back from a 2 week trip and did the DVC tour of both VGF and RIV. We have never been at either resort. Grand Floridian was FAR and away our favorite of the two. Better location/transportation options and way more dining/shopping options. We also liked the "vibe," lobby and grounds much more. We would be one of those families who would buy in only wanting to use the 1 or 2 bedrooms, though, not the new Resort Studios unless we were desperate. So, current owners who are concerned that the added Resort Studios will make the deluxe and multi-bedroom suites more scarce are likely correct. We'd be buying in with no intention of ever booking the resort studios.

I'm glad we toured them both, as going into it I was sure I would like RIV better. However, the rooms and grounds didn't "wow" us like the refurbished rooms at GFV. We rode the Skyliner and were surprised how often it stopped and how long the short trip to Epcot took.

Now to convince my husband to jump on board by the time sales open to the public. We would be new owners, so a few weeks to decide yet.

 

[GoingSince1990]

Just got back from a 2 week trip and did the DVC tour of both VGF and RIV. We have never been at either resort. Grand Floridian was FAR and away our favorite of the two. Better location/transportation options and way more dining/shopping options. We also liked the "vibe," lobby and grounds much more. We would be one of those families who would buy in only wanting to use the 1 or 2 bedrooms, though, not the new Resort Studios unless we were desperate. So, current owners who are concerned that the added Resort Studios will make the deluxe and multi-bedroom suites more scarce are likely correct. We'd be buying in with no intention of ever booking the resort studios.

I'm glad we toured them both, as going into it I was sure I would like RIV better. However, the rooms and grounds didn't "wow" us like the refurbished rooms at GFV. We rode the Skyliner and were surprised how often it stopped and how long the short trip to Epcot took.

Now to convince my husband to jump on board by the time sales open to the public. We would be new owners, so a few weeks to decide yet.

The Grand Floridian is magical and I have loved it since our first trip there in 1994. And it’s only gotten better since then, with the walking path to MK, new pool, and the water play area (which was sadly built too late for our children to enjoy but hoping to watch our grandchildren play in it!) Personally I think the new VGF sale is a wonderful opportunity, and an absolute bargain, and many who pass it up will be kicking themselves in years to come.

 

[mamaofsix]

The Grand Floridian is magical and I have loved it since our first trip there in 1994. And it’s only gotten better since then, with the walking path to MK, new pool, and the water play area (which was sadly built too late for our children to enjoy but hoping to watch our grandchildren play in it!) Personally I think the new VGF sale is a wonderful opportunity, and an absolute bargain, and many who pass it up will be kicking themselves in years to come.

Was thinking the same thing . . . I believe it will sell out quickly and don't want to regret in the future that we didn't go for it when it was available.

 

[ninafeliz]

Just got back from a 2 week trip and did the DVC tour of both VGF and RIV. We have never been at either resort. Grand Floridian was FAR and away our favorite of the two. Better location/transportation options and way more dining/shopping options. We also liked the "vibe," lobby and grounds much more. We would be one of those families who would buy in only wanting to use the 1 or 2 bedrooms, though, not the new Resort Studios unless we were desperate. So, current owners who are concerned that the added Resort Studios will make the deluxe and multi-bedroom suites more scarce are likely correct. We'd be buying in with no intention of ever booking the resort studios.

I'm glad we toured them both, as going into it I was sure I would like RIV better. However, the rooms and grounds didn't "wow" us like the refurbished rooms at GFV. We rode the Skyliner and were surprised how often it stopped and how long the short trip to Epcot took.

Now to convince my husband to jump on board by the time sales open to the public. We would be new owners, so a few weeks to decide yet.

We love them both, our two home resorts are Riviera and VGF. We toured the original VGF on our last trip, prior to buying in, and commented on how similar the room were between the two resorts. Essentially the same setup, and they both had the same upscale, airy, light feel to me.

 

[SleeplessInTO]

We probably saw 4 or 5 DVC tours happening today between walking from the Villas to Gasparilla’s around noon. Sitting in the lobby, the Enchanted Rose DVC event drew a lot of interest. This is making me want to buy more points.

 

[ninafeliz]

We probably saw 4 or 5 DVC tours happening today between walking from the Villas to Gasparilla’s around noon. Sitting in the lobby, the Enchanted Rose DVC event drew a lot of interest. This is making me want to buy more points.

What is the Enchanted Rose DVC event?

 

[SleeplessInTO]

What is the Enchanted Rose DVC event?

I didn’t go in but it looked like there were drinks. The lounge event was until 2pm for DVC and then went back to regular operations at 3:30 or so. I might drop by tomorrow and check it out. Have been meaning to try that elderflower drink.

 

[Nabas]

Just got back from a 2 week trip and did the DVC tour of both VGF and RIV. We have never been at either resort. Grand Floridian was FAR and away our favorite of the two. Better location/transportation options and way more dining/shopping options. We also liked the "vibe," lobby and grounds much more. We would be one of those families who would buy in only wanting to use the 1 or 2 bedrooms, though, not the new Resort Studios unless we were desperate. So, current owners who are concerned that the added Resort Studios will make the deluxe and multi-bedroom suites more scarce are likely correct. We'd be buying in with no intention of ever booking the resort studios.

I'm glad we toured them both, as going into it I was sure I would like RIV better. However, the rooms and grounds didn't "wow" us like the refurbished rooms at GFV. We rode the Skyliner and were surprised how often it stopped and how long the short trip to Epcot took.

Now to convince my husband to jump on board by the time sales open to the public. We would be new owners, so a few weeks to decide yet.

Did you get a chance to tour the Grand Villa at the Riviera?

We also think the Grand Floridian is a better resort but the living room and kitchen in the Riviera’s Grand Villa is the single best layout we have seen at any DVC resort. It’s a great space to entertain a large group. I searched online but cannot find a picture that does it justice.

 

[mamaofsix]

Did you get a chance to tour the Grand Villa at the Riviera?

We also think the Grand Floridian is a better resort but the living room and kitchen in the Riviera’s Grand Villa is the single best layout we have seen at any DVC resort. It’s a great space to entertain a large group. I searched online but cannot find a picture that does it justice.

Yes, we toured both Grand Villas. The kitchen area was awesome at the Riviera. However, that bonus home theater room that doubles as a 4th Bedroom at the Grand Floridian was also pretty great for a big family like our's...