The VGF 2 pricing thread

[ninafeliz]

My guide has a smart plan for tomorrow. He’s going to be emailing all of his buyers who have expressed interest all the info, including pricing sheets, point charts, incentives, etc, as soon as he gets it early in the morning, so that when he calls everyone will know the specific financials.

That's exactly what my guide said. He said he has around 20 people on his list, he will email them all by 8-9 AM, and call in the afternoon. Do you have Manny by chance lol?

 

[ninafeliz]

DVC creates a lot of FOMO and emotion but on a practical level, to be honest I don't see the huge appeal of this particular resort/expansion, considering BLT offers most of the same advantages of VGF and more flexibility in room choices, along with a far better points chart so your money goes further. If you have an attachment to VGF, I get it, but there's really not a huge selling point for this flip unless you really want studios near MK and don't like BLT (or even Poly for that matter). Keep in mind you can still enjoy VGF's dining and shopping, vibe, etc without owning there.

Because the product offers only pretty basic studios in the new building, you'd think the price should be lower to reflect that, but I really doubt it will be. Yes, you have options in the VGF1 building but now you have that many more people fighting for them. If it's priced at $255 a point I just can't see the reason to spend it when you have several others options in the MK area that cost less and offer essentially the same location.

I have no problem with VGF and we'd like to try it out and stay there someday but I don't see much reason to own there because the point chart is very high and BLT is a considerably less expensive option (in initial price and point chart) for basically the same location.

I have always loved the MK resort area, particularly the GF and Poly. But BLT had a walking path, so that drew me there. I just hesitated because I have never loved the CR - It was great for some trips, but not for me to own there for decades. The only thing I loved was the view- and those rooms do have the higher points chart. We have 6 people, so Poly is out. Now that they added the walking path to the GF I feel like it's the perfect MK resort for us. I do know the points charts are high, but instead of comparing it to the cheaper resorts I just looked at what we need there and will decide based on price when it's released tomorrow. Our other home resort is Riviera, so to have one Epcot and on MK, and both my favorite resorts of the respective areas (I just wish you could walk to the parks from the RR lol), would be amazing.

I have to confess that after reading this thread I am actually surprised how tight some of you seem to be with your guide. I have a very nice guide but I really don't have much contact with him. If only he knew how easy it would be to persuade me to buy more points Thank goodness he isn't reaching out and pushing me over the fence. LOL.

I hadn't talked to our guide since we made our initial purchase in Feb 2020. Then I emailed him a week or so ago telling him we were interested in the new VGF and he called within 5 min haha.

 

[Paul Stupin]

LOL, you're in a speculation thread right now. I don't have any more information than anybody else.

But yes, I'm an owner. Of VGF1 in particular. I care about the value of my points. Devaluing my points, like the Aulani fire sale, like the BLT fire sale, which I still don't understand, and selling VGF2 for slightly over what resale has been for the last year, is what I consider a bad sign for the value of the product I own. And it's a bad sign about the kind of decision making DVC could do, because they have a lot of options that don't line up with the interests of owners if they really need cash.

Great news for Disney though. Printing points with cheap flips, hooray! Sell it out!

I’m hoping VGF resale will hold up. Assuming the opening price is $207, which of course could be wrong but I hope not, two $7 price jumps would take it up to $221, which would give it some space from a $180 ppp on resale. I think any current asking prices for resale over $195 are just sellers being unrealistic.
Believe me, I care about my point value too!

 

[dfan_welcomehomeall_19]

One CONFIRMED item…

min cash add-on will be 25 points!!

 

[Bjaiken77]

One CONFIRMED item…

min cash add-on will be 25 points!!

That will get you 1 night in the janitor’s closet every two years.

 

[dfan_welcomehomeall_19]

That will get you 1 night in the janitor’s closet every two years.

True! But everyone’s needs are different if adding onto existing VGF or looking to bank/borrow for a short stay it’s good news

 

[Mskatietink]

Are the pricing incentives usually different for presale to members vs when sales open up? This will be my first contract so I don’t want to get my hopes up if the price increases after member pre sale!

 

[SleeplessInTO]

My guide calls a lot. I’ve never bought from him (we met with him at BWV when we stayed there in a 1 bedroom on cash, watched him struggle to make the math work since it’s really hard to make the math work for a 1 bedroom pool/garden view lol), and when he offered us CCV points, we were not impressed. Went out and bought BWV resale a month later.
But he’s never given up. He calls me every time we have a stay to say “welcome home”. He’s called me twice so far to tell me he will call me tomorrow morning to talk about VGF2. I really hope the math works out tomorrow and I can finally get him a commission after 3-4 years of calling me! I wouldn’t say no to some nifty luggage either.

 

[davidl81]

I’m hoping VGF resale will hold up. Assuming the opening price is $207, which of course could be wrong but I hope not, two $7 price jumps would take it up to $221, which would give it some space from a $180 ppp on resale. I think any current asking prices for resale over $195 are just sellers being unrealistic.
Believe me, I care about my point value too!

I know we are all debating opening price (and I tend to be on the $207 side), but my gut is price increases will come quickly on VGF especially if it really impacts RIV sales. Don’t get me wrong DVC will take the win of having a big points month or two, but they still have 3M+ points to sell at RIV and they won’t let VGF vulture those sales for extremely long.

 

[jacec]

I’m fairly set on buying 3 (150 point) contracts , making it easier for resale when needed. Don’t really care about the price. I also have 150 points in ROFR , but for December use year I’m fairly certain they’ll offer all the prior year points. Let’s hope for 207 with GREAT incentives

 

[Frugal Fairy Tales]

I know we are all debating opening price (and I tend to be on the $207 side), but my gut is price increases will come quickly on VGF especially if it really impacts RIV sales. Don’t get me wrong DVC will take the win of having a big points month or two, but they still have 3M+ points to sell at RIV and they won’t let VGF vulture those sales for extremely long.

Any reduction in VGF resale price will be short-lived. VGF2 won't be on sale forever. There is plenty of time for the resale price to increase between now and 2064. It's THE GRAND FLORIDIAN. It's NEXT TO THE MAGIC KINGDOM! For the long-term, the only way for the price to go is up! (my 2 cents... or several grand )

 

[kdm31091]

25 points is a nice minimum as opposed to the 50 they’ve done for RIV and CCV. But sadly it really will get you almost nothing at VGF

 

[Ruttangel]

25 points is a nice minimum as opposed to the 50 they’ve done for RIV and CCV. But sadly it really will get you almost nothing at VGF

It would be ok if you could borrow 100% but otherwise only good for a short stay every 2 years

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I know we are all debating opening price (and I tend to be on the $207 side), but my gut is price increases will come quickly on VGF especially if it really impacts RIV sales. Don’t get me wrong DVC will take the win of having a big points month or two, but they still have 3M+ points to sell at RIV and they won’t let VGF vulture those sales for extremely long.

I'm actually much more interested in what, if anything, we learn about Riviera based on Disney's approach here than whatever we learn about VGF. Throughout its sales cycle, they've been sort of positioning RIV as "Flagship 2," and we're about to learn whether they ever actually believed it or if it was just marketing BS. They absolutely persuaded me that the Skyliner is as good as or better than the Monorail (though that was the result of a stay at Caribbean Beach, not Riviera), and I think Riviera is a better quality resort than the Grand, but it'll be very interesting to see how they position the two side-by-side. We know that sales of RIV might not have been as fast or strong as they wanted, but we don't really have a good sense of whether resale restrictions, COVID, or general lackluster feelings towards the resort itself are to blame.

 

[ReecesPieces]

A picture of luggage looks like it came out. This was posted on the DVC Fan Facebook page. I am not able to embed the image for some reason, but you can see it here:

https://imgur.com/TgC1Xe8

 

[SusieQ93]

That will get you 1 night in the janitor’s closet every two years.

I just pictured that Seinfeld episode when Elaine is pretending to live in the janitors closet of an apartment building to order Chinese delivery from the place she likes

 

[SusieQ93]

Are the pricing incentives usually different for presale to members vs when sales open up? This will be my first contract so I don’t want to get my hopes up if the price increases after member pre sale!

Same!

 

[nuhusky123]

A picture of luggage looks like it came out. This was posted on the DVC Fan Facebook page. I am not able to embed the image for some reason, but you can see it here:

https://imgur.com/TgC1Xe8

Wow that set looks cheap and lame. They could have done a roller bag with a nice gfv picture

 

[kdm31091]

That set is, at least IMO, ugly

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Wow that set looks cheap and lame. They could have done a roller bag with a nice gfv picture

If it's real canvas and high quality leather, I think it looks awesome.

But it's almost certainly neither.

It reminds me of Steele Canvas. (If you're ever in the market for a $300 laundry basket, Steele Canvas is amazing.)

https://www.steelecanvas.com/