The VGF 2 pricing thread

[Sandisw]

Anyone know if you still get 6 mo 0% if putting on Disney visa?

Yes! I have my Disney Visa ready to go!

 

[DisneyMom_3]

Wow that set looks cheap and lame. They could have done a roller bag with a nice gfv picture

That set is, at least IMO, ugly

If that’s the set, I’m fine with a call later in the day. I won’t miss that luggage!

 

[HIRyeDVC]

I'm actually much more interested in what, if anything, we learn about Riviera based on Disney's approach here than whatever we learn about VGF. Throughout its sales cycle, they've been sort of positioning RIV as "Flagship 2," and we're about to learn whether they ever actually believed it or if it was just marketing BS. They absolutely persuaded me that the Skyliner is as good as or better than the Monorail (though that was the result of a stay at Caribbean Beach, not Riviera), and I think Riviera is a better quality resort than the Grand, but it'll be very interesting to see how they position the two side-by-side. We know that sales of RIV might not have been as fast or strong as they wanted, but we don't really have a good sense of whether resale restrictions, COVID, or general lackluster feelings towards the resort itself are to blame.

A lot to chew on here. I agree that RIV has been positioned as a "Flagship 2", but I think they're apples and oranges. One is close to MK, the other is close to Epcot/HS. The sales of ALL resorts and not just RIV were impacted during the pandemic, though it seems RIV was especially impacted more because of the resale restrictions and that it's really the only "featured" or "actively selling" resort (I don't count Aulani) since 2020. I agree that VGF2 will be a real litmus test for Riviera's resale experiment. This is why I believe VGF2 contracts will have have resale restrictions, even though they fall under the same condo association. If Disney is fully onboard with this resale restriction for the future of DVC, VGF2 not having restrictions would be a huge step backward for Disney. I can't wait for tomorrow morning to finally find out the details!

 

[DisneyMom_3]

We need a countdown clock to 8 AM EST …. I want to get these purchased and book my end of December 2022 trip. The wait is killing me.

Me too! I need more points so I can book my last two nights.

 

[chicagodisneyguy]

Yes! I have my Disney Visa ready to go!

For anyone about to buy VGF2 I'd head over to the budget board and check out the "we love credit cards" thread. While 0% is nice for 6 months, you can get WAAAYYY more value by opening few credit cards and using those to purchase your points. For instance several cards right now have 100k+ bonus offers. When I bought BLT direct in 2009 I ended up with a companion pass along with 70k UA points. Instead of giving DVC a check I used a couple credit cards and then paid it off that month. For people going big points-wise, the Capital1 Spark business card has a spend $50,000 in 3 months and get $3k statement credit.

This advice comes with the standard disclaimer not to open credit cards if you can't afford to. But if you are buying VGF2 I am assuming you can.

 

[Nabas]

VGF 150-to-160 point resale contracts on eight DVC resale websites are listed at an average of $194.60 per point.

I'll let you know what they look like in a couple of days.

 

[princesscinderella]

If that’s the set, I’m fine with a call later in the day. I won’t miss that luggage!

However maybe you can turn around and sell it for 30k on eBay

 

[CaptainAmerica]

This is why I believe VGF2 contracts will have have resale restrictions, even though they fall under the same condo association.

I thought we already knew that wasn't the case.

 

[Chovy]

Here's a question I haven't seen asked or answered. We have a use year of Dec. On prior purchases we received the current use year pts.- meaning right now we would receive 2021's, but for Riviera (because it wasn't actually available yet) we didn't. Anyone hear from their guide if this would be the case with VGF2?

 

[HIRyeDVC]

I thought we already knew that wasn't the case.

Disney has never officially said anything about resale restrictions. Everyone is assuming it will not have the restrictions based on it being under the same condo association.

 

[ninafeliz]

Here's a question I haven't seen asked or answered. We have a use year of Dec. On prior purchases we received the current use year pts.- meaning right now we would receive 2020's, but for Riviera (because it wasn't actually available yet) we didn't. Anyone hear from their guide if this would be the case with VGF2?

We also have a Dec UY, and honestly I find it confusing! You almost always, unless you travel in December, are using the previous calendar years points, right? But still
I assumed we would just get the Dec 2021 points, why would we also get Dec 2020 if we bought VGF tomorrow (or soon)? It’s well into 2021 points now. Don’t get me wrong, I would love the points, but I can’t see how they would give that many to start.

 

[SleeplessInTO]

Here's a question I haven't seen asked or answered. We have a use year of Dec. On prior purchases we received the current use year pts.- meaning right now we would receive 2020's, but for Riviera (because it wasn't actually available yet) we didn't. Anyone hear from their guide if this would be the case with VGF2?

I’m fairly confident you won’t get 2020 points. I have not heard anything about 2021 points.

 

[Chovy]

I’m fairly confident you won’t get 2020 points. I have not heard anything about 2021 points.

LOl I wrote 2020 instead of 2021. Maybe I forgot it was the new year 3 months later???

 

[SleeplessInTO]

LOl I wrote 2020 instead of 2021. Maybe I forgot it was the new year 3 months later???

I'm still writing 2021 on half of my work files, despite it being 2022. Oops! (I also wrote 2011 on something recently... )

 

[Sandisw]

Here's a question I haven't seen asked or answered. We have a use year of Dec. On prior purchases we received the current use year pts.- meaning right now we would receive 2021's, but for Riviera (because it wasn't actually available yet) we didn't. Anyone hear from their guide if this would be the case with VGF2?

Right now, we are in the Dec 2021 UY and from my conversations with my guide, I should be getting these without an issue and even be able to use them for my end of July trip (so my SSR and RIV borrowed points can go back).

The new studios will be opening this summer but he didn't mention any UY's not getting current UY points. There are two things that can happen though. Points deeded to the new rooms can not be used until the rooms open and these points could be withheld from some UY's since the rooms were not open prior to the 2022 UY starting for them.

However, they do have points that are deeded to current VGF building and therefore could, for those owners being left out of the 2021 UY points, could be given these and then it doesn't matter as all those rooms exist in the system already.

Once the rooms actually open, then they can sell al the UY's with points from the new units.

 

[nuhusky123]

I’ve been thinking about the luggage gift and it’s a little big farcical. Does dvc think that junk is going to be what convinces someone to buy 125 points instead of something less?

for me $ is king and the idea of well I could spend an extra $5k and get some junky luggage so sure that sounds like a great deal. Please dvc here is $5k extra now give me some bags you spent $0.30 making

 

[jacec]

My guide just emailed me. You’re on my “first of the list to call tomorrow. I expect we will make each other’s day”

god I love Disney

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Disney has never officially said anything about resale restrictions. Everyone is assuming it will not have the restrictions based on it being under the same condo association.

If they wanted to impose resale restrictions, why wouldn't they have turned them on at Aulani or with any of the sold out resorts they've been ROFRing and reselling?

 

[Sandisw]

I’ve been thinking about the luggage gift and it’s a little big farcical. Does dvc think that junk is going to be what convinces someone to buy 125 points instead of something less?

for me $ is king and the idea of well I could spend an extra $5k and get some junky luggage so sure that sounds like a great deal. Please dvc here is $5k extra now give me some bags you spent $0.30 making

See, I look at it differently. I like the fact that they may be adding some special things for early buyers.

I am excited and hope I end up being one who qualifies. I want close to my pixie dust price…and if I get that, I am thrilled.. the rest is just the cherry on the top.

 

[jacec]

See, I look at it differently. I like the fact that they may be adding some special things for early buyers.

I am excited and hope I end up being one who qualifies. I want close to my pixie dust price…and if I get that, I am thrilled.. the rest is just the cherry on the top.

What would make me more excited is DVC convincing DW to bring back the Sorcerer pass. I need annual passes to go with all these damn trips we’re taking.