The VGF 2 pricing thread

[Sandisw]

For the 3 month period of Sep-Nov, VGF had 17.4K pts sold (16.8 private party + .6K ROFR)

https://www.dvcnews.com/dvc-program...er-2021-privates-sale-prices-and-volumes-flat

So, in 3 months, less than 20k sold with prices under $200….just not seeing how DVD selling at $255 or higher makes sense when they will want to sell a lot more than 20K a month.

 

[nuhusky123]

Is this as big a deal now that they are refurbing VGF1 with murphy beds that are the exact same size/queen mattresses as the regular beds? To me, it's more bang for your buck. You still get 2 "real" queen beds as well as a couch if you need it...

To be determined I guess. I want to try both rooms to see which one I like more. I do like the stand up shower in the deluxe studios but the resort rooms are bigger. Will be fun to try both locations

 

[nuhusky123]

There Are two wild cards for me in terms of buying gfv.
1- price
2- annual passes

even if prices are in the $207 range which I am aligned to buy at if Disney does not bring back annual passes I’m going to pass on buying. I think it’s ridiculous annual passes are gone, no way I’m investing another $30k if I can’t buy an annual pass

 

[Sandisw]

There Are two wild cards for me in terms of buying gfv.
1- price
2- annual passes

even if prices are in the $207 range which I am aligned to buy at if Disney does not bring back annual passes I’m going to pass on buying. I think it’s ridiculous annual passes are gone, no way I’m investing another $30k if I can’t buy an annual pass

I can’t see them not bringing back when they are letting people renew them. Price though? That could be a lot.

My newest one will be good until March of 2023, since my current expires in March 2022.

 

[nuhusky123]

I have enough points for 1 week each year. Buying gfv would be week 2 for me. 1 week I’ll buy tickets, if I own 2 weeks I will want an annual pass

disney fails to bring annual passes back in conjunction With selling gfv and that’s $30k I won’t spend at Disney and will simply take vacations else where

my money will walk

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Is this as big a deal now that they are refurbing VGF1 with murphy beds that are the exact same size, type and quality queen mattresses as the regular beds? To me, it's more bang for your buck. You still get 2 "real" queen beds as well as a couch if you need it...

The Resort Studios have a couch as well, and you don't have to choose between the couch OR the second bed.



Regardless, it's not really about the comfort for me, it's about the hassle of opening and closing a piece of furniture. It prevents me from ever feeling settled in the room. I dislike split stays for the same reason.

 

[DVCbie-Jeebies]

So, in 3 months, less than 20k sold with prices under $200….just not seeing how DVD selling at $255 or higher makes sense when they will want to sell a lot more than 20K a month.

You can count the hubby and me among those missing from that number who decided after the VGF2 announcement to hold off on buying any resale. Advice all over these boards, including yours, is to hold off on buying, right? Don’t underestimate your ability to dissuade buyers Sandi!

 

[RoseGold]

just not seeing how DVD selling at $255 or higher makes sense when they will want to sell a lot more than 20K a month.

Are they trying to sell 20K a month? If that's the goal, just continue the Aulani firesale.

There's no construction. If they sell through VGF, they have nothing new and shiny to sell. All of those kiosks are staffed up for a reason.

Unless this is DVC's new plan, to keep up low effort, quick conversions of hotel rooms. I'm sure they can take another CB building or convert a section of the Coronado.

 

[DonMacGregor]

Are they trying to sell 20K a month? If that's the goal, just continue the Aulani firesale.

There's no construction. If they sell through VGF, they have nothing new and shiny to sell. All of those kiosks are staffed up for a reason.

Unless this is DVC's new plan, to keep up low effort, quick conversions of hotel rooms. I'm sure they can take another CB building or convert a section of the Coronado.

Well, there IS that structure emerging from the hole at Disneyland Hotel. Given that current hotel construction costs start at around $100k per room for a mid-range 3-Star facility, Disney is looking at at least a $35M minimum ROM for the new DVC tower. I'm guessing that would qualify as "new and shiny", and regardless of which coast it's located on, Disney will be looking to sell those points to Eskimos if they have to.

 

[Sandisw]

You can count the hubby and me among those missing from that number who decided after the VGF2 announcement to hold off on buying any resale. Advice all over these boards, including yours, is to hold off on buying, right? Don’t underestimate your ability to dissuade buyers Sandi!

I am glad people waited! I did too! But that only supports that it could be tough to sell so much higher than resale..

If resale market isn’t brisk, then pricing direct really high seems like it will keep it depressed as well.

I feel more confident it will be $220 or less!

 

[Sandisw]

Are they trying to sell 20K a month? If that's the goal, just continue the Aulani firesale.

There's no construction. If they sell through VGF, they have nothing new and shiny to sell. All of those kiosks are staffed up for a reason.

Unless this is DVC's new plan, to keep up low effort, quick conversions of hotel rooms. I'm sure they can take another CB building or convert a section of the Coronado.

Why do it then if they don’t want to sell it? Wait a few years to convert.

And, if they can’t sell at least 20K VGF points a month it’d be a failure, given RIV just sold 74K in December.

Given the ease to convert, if this is priced well, and sells, they convert something else so they have something new to sell, along with continuing RIV…

Again, we have no idea their thinking, and it will surprise one of the camps for sure.

 

[Royal Consort]

Why do it then if they don’t want to sell it? Wait a few years to convert.

Given the ease to convert, if this is priced well, and sells, they convert something else so they have something new to sell, along with continuing RIV…

I agree and think we need to take a step back to recognise why Disney are doing this sale. They are recouping during a global pandemic. They cancelled an expensive new build (Reflections) to quickly and lightly spruce up an existing building at a popular resort and plonking it on an existing condo association. This is designed as nothing but a low cost (for the company) sugar hit. They want to turn this over. That's its very reason for being.

 

[Paul Stupin]

So, in 3 months, less than 20k sold with prices under $200….just not seeing how DVD selling at $255 or higher makes sense when they will want to sell a lot more than 20K a month.

Wouldn't make much sense!

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

The Resort Studios have a couch as well, and you don't have to choose between the couch OR the second bed.

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Regardless, it's not really about the comfort for me, it's about the hassle of opening and closing a piece of furniture. It prevents me from ever feeling settled in the room. I dislike split stays for the same reason.

It's a couch facing the beds and I think majority want to sit on the couch and watch the TV vs sitting on a bed to watch TV. That's a big difference between a studio and a hotel room. I think the murphy bed/sofa combo was a game changer that does make the 2 real bed model obsolete for a lot of people who wanted 2 comfortable beds. Now studios work much better for a larger variety of people.

Why they don't give us a King bed studio option is just crazy to me. Disney is getting more king beds into their deluxe hotel rooms yet DVC can't figure out that would be an offering that is likely to appeal as it would be unlike any other studio option they offer. Or make it half and half at least? For what they are doing at VGF it's just a furniture arrangement and wouldn't change anything structural. Simple.

 

[Sandisw]

It's a couch facing the beds and I think majority want to sit on the couch and watch the TV vs sitting on a bed to watch TV. That's a big difference between a studio and a hotel room. I think the murphy bed/sofa combo was a game changer that does make the 2 real bed model obsolete for a lot of people who wanted 2 comfortable beds. Now studios work much better for a larger variety of people.

Why they don't give us a King bed studio option is just crazy to me. Disney is getting more king beds into their deluxe hotel rooms yet DVC can't figure out that would be an offering that is likely to appeal as it would be unlike any other studio option they offer. Or make it half and half at least? For what they are doing at VGF it's just a furniture arrangement and wouldn't change anything structural. Simple.

These resort studios, because they are larger would have been the perfect room to fit them!!

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

These resort studios, because they are larger would have been the perfect room to fit them!!

That's what I think. It looks like a King bed and at least a double murphy/sofa, maybe even queen, would easily have gone in along the wall with the 2 queens. And with a category of 200 rooms even splitting 100/100 would be a couple of good sized booking categories.

 

[nuhusky123]

That's what I think. It looks like a King bed and at least a double murphy/sofa, maybe even queen, would easily have gone in along the wall with the 2 queens.

Yes this was a big miss by dvc. they should have had a % of the new rooms, say 100 rooms be kings. Half the building

this would then make getting two studios super popular

2 queens for kids and a king split for parents. Boom winner

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

Yes this was a big miss by dvc. they should have had a % of the new rooms, say 100 rooms be kings. Half the building

this would then make getting two studios super popular

2 queens for kids and a king split for parents. Boom winner

That's taking it even a further step than I was thinking. Ah that would have been great!

 

[Sandisw]

Yes this was a big miss by dvc. they should have had a % of the new rooms, say 100 rooms be kings. Half the building

this would then make getting two studios super popular

2 queens for kids and a king split for parents. Boom winner

Yeah, every other room that connected so you could get one side King bed and one side two queens!!

Let’s be honest two queens or a King and a queen bed, if it fit, would be just as nice!!!

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

Yeah, every other room that connected so you could get one side King bed and one side two queens!!

Let’s be honest two queens or a King and a queen bed, if it fit, would be just as nice!!!

I'd probably give up the microwave for that room arrangement.