The VERY LAST Buffy (If you haven't seen it yet don't read!)

[Princess_Aurora]

Just thought I'd see what everyone's thoughts were. I cried like a baby at the end. I felt so sorry for Anya...they just left her in there. And I feel bad because I wanted Anya and Xander back together And they didn't even get to have one final scene together. What was Joss thinking when he chose Andrew over Anya???

Okay, I know most of you have heard the news about Spike going over to Angel. Any ideas how that is going to happen??? I mean, he went to ashes.

I really hope Buffy decides to go to LA to see Angel. I'm sure SMG could do a couple of episodes next season after she finishes up Scooby Doo Too.

So, who else was crying like a baby???

 

[dmslush]

I think he picked Anya to die for a couple of reasons. There is no way that he could have killed any of the originals, buffy, xander, willow or giles. That just couldn't have been pulled off. But, there had to be ONE big death, and it had to be someone that means a lot to us. I mean, really, who would have cared or cried if it had been andrew??

On the topic of spike. I think (and this is way out there) that he will come back as a human. I think that this was his ultimate redemption, he saved the world, that should absolve him of ALL sins that he committed as a vampire. I think that the 'powers that be' on Angel will let him be a regular man now.

 

[CruiserDew73]

I was dissappointed. That wasn't really that sad. Buffy is not a happy show, but they gave it a happy ending. . I was SHOCKED when anya died. I loved anya!!!

 

[Princess_Aurora]

Originally posted by dmslush
I think (and this is way out there) that he will come back as a human. I think that this was his ultimate redemption, he saved the world, that should absolve him of ALL sins that he committed as a vampire. I think that the 'powers that be' on Angel will let him be a regular man now.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That CAN'T happen! Angel is the one who is suppose to turn human again. Man, if that turns out to be the case then I'm going to be highly POd that Buffy didn't let Angel stay and wear the amulet

 

[CourtasanSatine]

but we still have Angel,Cordy and Wesley

 

[Princess_Aurora]

No...no Cordy. She will only be in the first 2 episodes next season. She said something about wanting to spend time with her new baby.

 

[CourtasanSatine]

but Spike is coming over

 

[montessori]

I was disappointed in the show too.
It didn't help that I kept getting interrupted during it!

Was Willow standing with them at the end?

How did Buffy get healed of that stab wound?

I liked Zander's line when Andrew told him that Anya died saving his life.
"That's my girl, always doing something stupid".

I expected to cry but didn't.

 

[Princess_Aurora]

Yes, Willow was standing with them all at the end, but I didn't remember seeing her get out. Once I stopped crying fron Anya's death (I LOVED Anya!!!) and after Sunnydale was all gone I realized that I never saw Willow get out!!! The last time I saw her was after she finished the spell and told Kenedy to give Buffy the swax (that's short for sword ax since I never really could determine exactly what it was...seemed to also be a stake though too) Anyway, I started crying more when I realized that Willow might have been left behind...then I saw her and I felt much better.

I don't think Buffy's wound was really "healed" The First came over and started making fun of her for loosing and she got mad and just got up and started fighting again.

I think I'm in my "acceptance" phase now. It doesn't really feel like it's over anymore...I'm sure we haven't heard the last of The Scoobies as I'm sure we'll hear about them on Angel

 

[MomE@Home]

I wish the final episode had been a two hour instead of a regular length one. I think they tried to cram too much into it-it seemed rushed and scattered. Is it true that Spike is going over to Angel ? I think it would be great if Spike did become human again and he & Buffy get married and have some kids ! I cried when Anya was killed too. The ending just left me feeling flat.

 

[sorcerormickey]

I was very disappointed by the show. It should have been 2 hours, and the ending was dull. I am very bummed now that it is over. I loved that show. At least there's Angel.

 

[Beth E. (NJ)]

I haven't had the chance to watch the entire episode yet but I did tape it and watched a good portion so far.

I was wondering if the show had any technical problems last night. I'm in the NY metro area, perhaps the problem was in our area. Towards the beginning of the show when Buffy is talking to Angel her lip are moving, but I can't hear what she says. Then it seems to catch up.

I had another question too. When Buffy is stabbed and has fallen down and the First comes to mock her - she tells the first that she wants her to get out of her face and then she stands up. The First is gone. Did her getting up make it disappear? I know that she swings that ax thing, but after she does that they scan back and you see three of those vamps fall off the edge of the cliff. What do you think? Did she ax the First?

 

[maleficent1959]

I have a question. DH promised to keep our microtot occupied so I could watch. But, of course, DS interrupts the scene with Buffy and Angel outside in the graveyard. I saw them kiss inside, I heard Angel being jealous of Spike, and then when I could get back to the show Angel was walking away and Buffy went to Spike. How did they resolve their relationship?

 

[suzannen]

I hadn't heard the rumor about Spike going over to Angel, but that makes me feel better because I HATED that they killed Spike and also Anya.

Personally, I would have had Willow die from casting the spell and then seen walking hand in hand with Tara and then I would have had Faith be killed while protecting Buffy after she was wounded, so she would have found redemption. Oh well, Joss never asked for my opinion.

 

[montessori]

I like your ending, Suzannen!

I THINK Buffy convinced Angel to go away so he could get ready to be "backup" if they all died and he had to fight to save the world. I THINK she gave him a glimpse of hope that they could have a relationship someday although she made it pretty clear that she loves Spike.

I'm always unsure about what goes on in this show!

I'm sorry it's over though.

My husband and daughter just never "got it" about Buffy.

One night, I was rushing to get dinner over and done with to sit down to watch. As I did every Tuesday night when it wasn't a repeat.
My daughter made some remark and my husband said,
"Just think, some day Mom will be all grown up!"
He did watch the last few episodes with me.

I also wish the last show had been 2 hours long and better!

 

[suzannen]

Originally posted by montessori
"Just think, some day Mom will be all grown up!"

Montessori,
LOL - that's exactly what my DH and DD thought about my Buffy addiction!

 

[Beth E. (NJ)]

Originally posted by montessori

My husband and daughter just never "got it" about Buffy. . ..............my husband said, "Just think, some day Mom will be all grown up!"

LOL -- My husband was/is the same way. He would come in and find me watching a repeat of Buffy and he would just shake his head at me.

 

[Disney845]

It seems like so many shows are just ending lately. I started watching buffy back in High School. I remember coming in the day after it first aired, thinking that no one would have watched it and I was so uncool (as was so important back in HS) for letting my mom drag me into it (she was a fan of the original movie and wanted to start watching the series). Then I come in and find out one of my best friend's mother had also convinced her to watch it the night before. After that we were hooked. And please tell me who wasn't in love with Angel from the very beginning.

***SIGH***

Well it is over now, and I have to say that I didn't keep up with it over all these years, but I watched reruns everynow and then and I watched the final two episodes. I was so disappointed. was expecting something spectacular. Instead it seemed very anti-climactic for the type of show it was. I agree with the poster who mentioned it seeming rushed and cramped. Also the very ending with her jumping across those buildings as Sunnydale sort of sank into the ground was a horrible special effect. I mean I think they could have spared a little more expense on that one and made it slightly more realistic looking.

As for the show as a whole, I always wanted Buffy to be with Angel, but after he left I started to like Spike too. I loved her comment to Angel about him going all "Dawson" on her. As the show was very much like its contemporary Dawson's Creek, as far as the relationship angst went. I never like the storyline of Willow becoming a lesbian becuase I always really wanted her and Oz to somehow get back together, I thought they were very cute. I also never liked Dawn and didn't think she added anything to the show. I liked Faith and the strained relationship she and Buffy had. The idea at the end that there was going to be some army of slayers rising to fight new evil was a little weird for me to buy because I thought the premise the show was based on was one slayer to carry the burden of saving the world.

 

[TimNDansMom]

I'm glad to read that I'm not the only one who thought that the show ended somewhat flat and the first thing I thought was that it should have been 2 hours. It just ended too quickly! I really enjoyed Joss' humour in the writing, though. I loved how Spike said that he wanted to see how it ends when he and Buffy said goodbye.

 

[Princess_Aurora]

Originally posted by Disney845
The idea at the end that there was going to be some army of slayers rising to fight new evil was a little weird for me to buy because I thought the premise the show was based on was one slayer to carry the burden of saving the world.

They did a lot of emphisising this season on how the slayer was actually a slave in the very beginining. She was meant to be alone because her only purpose was to fight. Buffy was the first slayer to actually have friends to fight with her and we learned that the slayer works best with others. I think the proof of that is that all the slayers die before they reached the age of 20. All those slayers were alone. So through the seasons we've learned that Buffy fights best with her friends.

For those who missed the conversation between Buffy and Angel, here's a recap: Angel shows Buffy the amulet and tells her that a souled champion that was stronger than human was meant to wear it. She says fine, she'll wear it. Angle says no she can't, he doesn't know what will happen to the person who puts it on. He tells her he will wear it. She says no, she needs him in LA. If they were to fail then the evil would spread fast and she needed him to hold up the fort if she failed. She told him Spike would wear it (which suggests to me that she cares more about Angel since he JUST got through telling her that it could be dangerous and she would rather sacrifice Spike than Angel) because he has a soul now. Angel then begins pouting because he was the first one to have a soul and pretty soon everybody would get a soul and it wouldn't be cool anymore (It was really funny) and Buffy reminds him that he's not 12. Angel asks Buffy if she loves Spike. She said she doesn't love him but he is in her heart. They then have a meaningful conversation about when Buffy would be ready to decide who she wanted to be with. She then proceeds to compare herself to cookie dough. For maleficent1959, here's how that conversation went (word for word thanks to my impressive captioning skills )

"BUFFY: I'm cookie dough. I'm not done baking. I'm not finished becoming whoever the hell it is I'm going to turn out to be. If I make it through this, then the next thing, then the next thing, then maybe one day I'll turn around and realize I'm ready. I'm cookies. And then, you know, if I want someone to eat -- or enjoy warm delicious cookie me, then that's fine. That'll be then. When I'm done.

ANGEL: Any thoughts on who might enjoy -- do I have to go with the cookie analagy?

BUFFY: Not really thinking that far ahead, that's kind of the point.

ANGEL: I'm going to go start working on the second front. Make sure I don't have to use it.
(Angel starts walking off ready to head back to LA)

BUFFY: Angel! (She calls out to him and he turns back around) I do -- sometimes -- think that far ahead.

ANGEL: Sometimes is something.

BUFFY: It'll be a long time coming, years if ever.

ANGEL: I ain't getting any older."

For those who missed this scene, it was my favorite last night. I've always been a big Buffy/Angel fan and this scene really gave hope to us Angel and Buffy fans that one day she would choose him