The Trip That Almost Wasn't - December '09 (We are BACK!!!! TR to start soon)

[Marshay]

Yes, you can borrow pts at anytime. So you can book a studio and then upgrade by borrowing pts to a 2br as long as there is availability.

BWV looks really nice. It is available thru Disney but you have to ask for it. They won't sell it to you w/o you asking since they are pushing AKV and BLT.

Basically, if they don't have BWV in stock, they will buy up someone's contract from the resale boards and offer it to you.

Remember the contracts for BWV expire in 2042...whereas BLT expires in 2057 or 2060...something like that. So you really need to consider this. BWV can actually be more expensive than BLT since you don't have as many years to use it and WDW is not offering any incentives for BWV...just for BLT and AKV.

When you go this weekend, maybe you can go over to Bdwlk and check it out (if you haven't before).

 

[Marshay]

So a studio in BWV in Sept with a standard view for 1 week (includes a Fri/Sat night) in 2009: 85 pts (104 for boardwalk view)

1BR is 162 pts (200 bdwk view)
2BR is 222 pts (270 bdwk view)


Just an FYI. If you did the same at BLT
Studio: 103 pts
1BR: 201 pts
2 BR: 272 pts

As you can see, you will need to buy more pts to vacation at BLT than you would at Bdwk since BLT's standard view is basically equivalent to Boardwalk's premium view.

Whatever amount of points you purchase, you need to provide yourself a "buffer" meaning, add on some extra points (10-25?). Although Disney cannot change the # of points for an ENTIRE resort, they can change pts in an individual category (ie. in 2010 your 85 pts studio may actually cost 95 pts, in 2011 it could go up another 20% or it could go down or stay the same. The pts remained the same for many years but WDW just changed the pts in 2010 and caused a complete uproar with folks who had only purchased the EXACT number of pts they needed...so they are now like 1-10 pts short each year...). Disney can adjust the numbers by no more than 20% for any one room category. So you want to be prepared for this. Don't just buy 85 pts.

 

[Marshay]

Also remember that the points above are for traveling in Sept or Dec which are the CHEAPEST points. It'll only cost more points if you travel at any other month.

 

[cherbear]

Also remember that the points above are for traveling in Sept or Dec which are the CHEAPEST points. It'll only cost more points if you travel at any other month.

So Dec is the same amount of points in Sept? Or is that just early Dec?

(I'm trying to gain as much information as I can from this b/c I hope to own DVC one day myself)

 

[Marshay]

So Dec is the same amount of points in Sept? Or is that just early Dec?

(I'm trying to gain as much information as I can from this b/c I hope to own DVC one day myself)

Correct, just early Dec...until about Dec 15th or so...date varies each year.

Great clarification.

And actually since Carla said the week after Thanksgiving, some of those days will be in November, which means it'll really be MORE than the pts I had stated above...so she should add about 1-2/pts each day for November.

For Christmas Week it would also be double the amount of points each day!

 

[Leger13]

Yes, you can borrow pts at anytime. So you can book a studio and then upgrade by borrowing pts to a 2br as long as there is availability.

BWV looks really nice. It is available thru Disney but you have to ask for it. They won't sell it to you w/o you asking since they are pushing AKV and BLT.

Basically, if they don't have BWV in stock, they will buy up someone's contract from the resale boards and offer it to you.

Remember the contracts for BWV expire in 2042...whereas BLT expires in 2057 or 2060...something like that. So you really need to consider this. BWV can actually be more expensive than BLT since you don't have as many years to use it and WDW is not offering any incentives for BWV...just for BLT and AKV.

When you go this weekend, maybe you can go over to Bdwlk and check it out (if you haven't before).

Ah okay that's good to know. The more I think about it the more I think we'll go with BLT. Mostly because of the end of the Time share thing. I had totally forgotten about that.

That's weird that they will buy up shares from a resale place and offer you that. Huh!

Yeah that's a good idea too. Hopefully we'll have time.

So a studio in BWV in Sept with a standard view for 1 week (includes a Fri/Sat night) in 2009: 85 pts (104 for boardwalk view)

1BR is 162 pts (200 bdwk view)
2BR is 222 pts (270 bdwk view)


Just an FYI. If you did the same at BLT
Studio: 103 pts
1BR: 201 pts
2 BR: 272 pts

As you can see, you will need to buy more pts to vacation at BLT than you would at Bdwk since BLT's standard view is basically equivalent to Boardwalk's premium view.

Whatever amount of points you purchase, you need to provide yourself a "buffer" meaning, add on some extra points (10-25?). Although Disney cannot change the # of points for an ENTIRE resort, they can change pts in an individual category (ie. in 2010 your 85 pts studio may actually cost 95 pts, in 2011 it could go up another 20% or it could go down or stay the same. The pts remained the same for many years but WDW just changed the pts in 2010 and caused a complete uproar with folks who had only purchased the EXACT number of pts they needed...so they are now like 1-10 pts short each year...). Disney can adjust the numbers by no more than 20% for any one room category. So you want to be prepared for this. Don't just buy 85 pts.

I totally get it. I think we'd end up buying 200 pts. Chris only wants to buy required amount but I want more so we can go at least twice a year to WDW or somewhere else that they offer.

Thanks again for all the info! You have been SO great! I was SO confused about it all before but I have been shown the way. Thanks again!!

 

[cherbear]

Correct, just early Dec...until about Dec 15th or so...date varies each year.

Great clarification.

And actually since Carla said the week after Thanksgiving, some of those days will be in November, which means it'll really be MORE than the pts I had stated above...so she should add about 1-2/pts each day for November.

For Christmas Week it would also be double the amount of points each day!

ahh, thanks for the info!

I don't think I will ever make it to Disney for Christmas week in ANY case...

 

[Leger13]

Also remember that the points above are for traveling in Sept or Dec which are the CHEAPEST points. It'll only cost more points if you travel at any other month.

Okies cool. I'm sure we'll stick with the cheapest times. Just so we can get the max out of our points

So Dec is the same amount of points in Sept? Or is that just early Dec?

(I'm trying to gain as much information as I can from this b/c I hope to own DVC one day myself)

good question

Correct, just early Dec...until about Dec 15th or so...date varies each year.

Great clarification.

And actually since Carla said the week after Thanksgiving, some of those days will be in November, which means it'll really be MORE than the pts I had stated above...so she should add about 1-2/pts each day for November.

For Christmas Week it would also be double the amount of points each day!

so even the day after Thanksgiving is still more points? Weird. Oh well....I can always wait and go the first full week of December. I just want to see the decorations and go to MVMCP

 

[Marshay]

I think 200 pts would serve you VERY well, esp for a studio.

We have 230 pts and always do a 1BR for a week. I want more points and once my girls are in school and we can only travel in summer or breaks, then we will definitely need more points (hence why we are looking at BLT).

FYI -- Thanksgiving premium dates this year are Nov 25-27

 

[Marshay]

Someone just posted this on the DVC Talk emails that I get (they are part of All Ears in case you want to sign up, too)

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Our guide said that BLT is selling so well and so fast that DVC expects it to sell out faster than anticipated - perhaps within 2 months. She's been close to the mark before. Her outbound voicemail message states that incentives on BLT are changing come June 15th, 2009 and that the price on BLT is also going up (due to the success of BLT sales). They are hoping to drive the sales of their other 3 resorts a bit higher while slowing down sales on BLT.
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[Leger13]

I think 200 pts would serve you VERY well, esp for a studio.

We have 230 pts and always do a 1BR for a week. I want more points and once my girls are in school and we can only travel in summer or breaks, then we will definitely need more points (hence why we are looking at BLT).

FYI -- Thanksgiving premium dates this year are Nov 25-27

cool that's good to hear. 200 will be good

Someone just posted this on the DVC Talk emails that I get (they are part of All Ears in case you want to sign up, too)

***
Our guide said that BLT is selling so well and so fast that DVC expects it to sell out faster than anticipated - perhaps within 2 months. She's been close to the mark before. Her outbound voicemail message states that incentives on BLT are changing come June 15th, 2009 and that the price on BLT is also going up (due to the success of BLT sales). They are hoping to drive the sales of their other 3 resorts a bit higher while slowing down sales on BLT.
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oh man bummer. Good for Disney but bummer for me. Hopefully I'll still be able to get in somewhere good for a decent price

 

[Leger13]

so Chris and I managed to take Friday completely off from work so we can surprise Rebecca by getting to her house by lunch time instead of 1am!!

so shhhhhh it's a secret

 

[Marshay]

oh man bummer. Good for Disney but bummer for me. Hopefully I'll still be able to get in somewhere good for a decent price

Yep, me too. I was hoping to wait until we went in November to check it out...

YEAH!! that you get to leave early!!

 

[Leger13]

Yep, me too. I was hoping to wait until we went in November to check it out...

YEAH!! that you get to leave early!!

I guess we'll just have to wait and see what's available later. Or do you think you'll buy in before your trip?

Yeah I'm happy about it. Working half the day was going to kill me

 

[Marshay]

I guess we'll just have to wait and see what's available later. Or do you think you'll buy in before your trip?

Yeah I'm happy about it. Working half the day was going to kill me

I'm not sure...I told DH this and he said, well what do our finances look like?

Right now we spent a lot updating the house and getting ready for baby...I was thinking next year, too...but I'd sure hate to pass this by.

I wonder what the next WDW DVC would be...

 

[Leger13]

I'm not sure...I told DH this and he said, well what do our finances look like?

Right now we spent a lot updating the house and getting ready for baby...I was thinking next year, too...but I'd sure hate to pass this by.

I wonder what the next WDW DVC would be...

oh bummer.

That's what I'm wondering too....wonder if we can use our sleuthing skills and dig up some rumors

 

[lovebuzzandwoody]

I don't think I will ever make it to Disney for Christmas week in ANY case...

We went once Dec. 26 to Jan. 2..... NEVER again. I don't even like to go to the MALL at Christmastime..... what was I thinking? Earlier in Dec. is sooooo much better!!!

 

[Trentmom]

so Chris and I managed to take Friday completely off from work so we can surprise Rebecca by getting to her house by lunch time instead of 1am!!

so shhhhhh it's a secret

That is so awesome

We went once Dec. 26 to Jan. 2..... NEVER again. I don't even like to go to the MALL at Christmastime..... what was I thinking? Earlier in Dec. is sooooo much better!!!

SO weird that it is like that now

I went on my honeymoon Dec 25th - January 8th and it was dead

like a ghost town


but it was 1998 so guess a lot has changed

 

[Leger13]

That is so awesome



SO weird that it is like that now

I went on my honeymoon Dec 25th - January 8th and it was dead

like a ghost town


but it was 1998 so guess a lot has changed

Thanks I'm pretty excited. We'd leave tonight to get down there but we have to show our house sitters all the details of the house/dogs and we have to drop off the other two at my in-laws house. So we're just going to enjoy the evening. I'm still getting my nails done this afternoon and after we get all the things done that we need to do and eat dinner we're going to see the new Terminator movie

yeah things have changed quite a bit it sounds

 

[cherbear]

so Chris and I managed to take Friday completely off from work so we can surprise Rebecca by getting to her house by lunch time instead of 1am!!

so shhhhhh it's a secret

That's awesome! What do you plan to do when you get there since you'll have half a day now?

oh bummer.

That's what I'm wondering too....wonder if we can use our sleuthing skills and dig up some rumors

or make some up....

We went once Dec. 26 to Jan. 2..... NEVER again. I don't even like to go to the MALL at Christmastime..... what was I thinking? Earlier in Dec. is sooooo much better!!!

I don't like the mall at Christmastime either! Now you've certainly confirmed the Disney thing for me