The Running Thread--2024

[The Expert]

I gotta say that I am constantly amazed at the things my Garmin can do (I have the Forerunner 955). Did a strength workout yesterday and decided to try the stength widget to keep a record of my total time. While doing the workout it was pretty good at tracking reps (asks me to confirm each time but it was usually pretty accurate), etc. However, I didn't do any research on how to use the mode in advance and thought it was strange that it didn't really have a way for me to move to the next exercise; only would have me move from set-rest-set, etc. But just looked at the workout in Garmin Connect and not only did it record all the sets, it was also able to figure out and drop in most of the exercises I was doing. I guess it uses the sensors to track the motion and guess what exercise it was. I'm probably the last person on the planet to figure this out, but thought it was pretty cool. Also just another example of all the stuff a Garmin can do that I should learn more about (but probably won't because I'm lazy).

I also have the 955. I have two workouts that my trainer gave me when we moved and I plugged them both into Garmin Connect. Now when I pick Strength, it asks if I want to do one of those, or I can do my own. It guides me through the reps and rest period and allows me to correct anything it got wrong. It's pretty slick!

 

[Professor_Cookie]

I have been thinking during runs about the potential of running an all time PR for myself next year if I stick with my training. I will be 46 then, and it will have been over 15 years since i set my PR. I think I can accomplish this and not on a downhill course. It’s not out of vanity or middle-aged hubris, but because of a quote from a different sport.

The Warren Miller quote that goes through my head when I ponder this is, “whoever says they are as good at 40 as they were at 20 sure wasn’t good at 20.”

To wit, I can run three miles faster currently than I could when I was in high school playing football and wrestling.

 

[LorrieAnn5]

I gotta say that I am constantly amazed at the things my Garmin can do (I have the Forerunner 955). Did a strength workout yesterday and decided to try the stength widget to keep a record of my total time. While doing the workout it was pretty good at tracking reps (asks me to confirm each time but it was usually pretty accurate), etc. However, I didn't do any research on how to use the mode in advance and thought it was strange that it didn't really have a way for me to move to the next exercise; only would have me move from set-rest-set, etc. But just looked at the workout in Garmin Connect and not only did it record all the sets, it was also able to figure out and drop in most of the exercises I was doing. I guess it uses the sensors to track the motion and guess what exercise it was. I'm probably the last person on the planet to figure this out, but thought it was pretty cool. Also just another example of all the stuff a Garmin can do that I should learn more about (but probably won't because I'm lazy).

Love my Garmin (Venu 3s) and also love strength training. Here's a warning for you though....when you start the workout as "Strength" on the watch you will only get "credit" for the time you are actually performing the reps, (not any of the rest periods) so if you're going for the monthly badge of 4 hours of Strength Training, it will take significantly longer than 4 hours to achieve it.

I do my normal weekly strength workouts as "Cardio" on the watch and then edit it to Strength Training in the app afterwards. When I want to do a 1 Rep Max Test I use the Strength from the watch to get it to save my reps and weights.

 

[FFigawi]

I have been thinking during runs about the potential of running an all time PR for myself next year if I stick with my training. I will be 46 then, and it will have been over 15 years since i set my PR. I think I can accomplish this and not on a downhill course. It’s not out of vanity or middle-aged hubris, but because of a quote from a different sport.

The Warren Miller quote that goes through my head when I ponder this is, “whoever says they are as good at 40 as they were at 20 sure wasn’t good at 20.”

To wit, I can run three miles faster currently than I could when I was in high school playing football and wrestling.

I have no doubt you can do this. The training methodology, fueling options, and shoe tech are all much better now than they were 15 years ago. I’m no spring chicken and set a PR last weekend thanks to all of that improvement.

 

[RuntheMouse]

FYI: 10% off Brooks just came up on my Chase offers for my Sapphire card as well as a Freedom Unlimited card.

 

[GreatLakes]

Love my Garmin (Venu 3s) and also love strength training. Here's a warning for you though....when you start the workout as "Strength" on the watch you will only get "credit" for the time you are actually performing the reps, (not any of the rest periods) so if you're going for the monthly badge of 4 hours of Strength Training, it will take significantly longer than 4 hours to achieve it.

I do my normal weekly strength workouts as "Cardio" on the watch and then edit it to Strength Training in the app afterwards. When I want to do a 1 Rep Max Test I use the Strength from the watch to get it to save my reps and weights.

This hasn't been my experience. It does separate out the set and rest time but for my badge if I do a 60 minute workout with only 15 minutes of lifting I get the whole 60 minutes.

 

[Professor_Cookie]

I have no doubt you can do this. The training methodology, fueling options, and shoe tech are all much better now than they were 15 years ago. I’m no spring chicken and set a PR last weekend thanks to all of that improvement.

I’m pretty sure it’s more than doable especially if I can stay focused…which is the hard part!

 

[sandam1]

My running from June:



I'm proud of my consistency throughout the month. Unfortunately, I had some issues with my back/hips at the end of the month, but I was still able to get some movement in.

After going into maintenance mode for a couple months post-Springtime Surprise, the mileage is starting to go upwards again in anticipation of the Jimmy Fund Walk which follows the Boston Marathon course at the beginning of October and then maintaining that through Dopey.

 

[Herding_Cats]

I need a reality check if I’m being unreasonable in my expectations. I’m working on trying some new shoes out because I don’t love how squishy NB 1080s have gotten (I’ve been wearing 1080s for 3 years.) DS2 wears the same size shoe as I do, so I will sometimes test-run his when he gets a new pair.

Last year I tried his endorphin speed 3s (too narrow the the toe box) and today I tried a pair of saucony ride 16s. These are very different from my 1080s in that there feels like there’s almost no cushion. They didn’t feel bad, but they also didn’t feel great.

What I like about the idea of rides: they come in a wide variety of colors, and I can get them for a pretty good discount off Amazon on older models.

What I didn’t like: they felt like they had no cushion. But I understand that this isn’t a highly cushioned shoe and I’m used to a pretty soft shoe.

How do I reconcile “these are too squishy” and then not like a shoe that’s literally not squishy? Is there an adjustment period I need to allow for? Or should I just look for a more cushioned shoe and not mess around with rides at all?

 

[kps7795]

I need a reality check if I’m being unreasonable in my expectations. I’m working on trying some new shoes out because I don’t love how squishy NB 1080s have gotten (I’ve been wearing 1080s for 3 years.) DS2 wears the same size shoe as I do, so I will sometimes test-run his when he gets a new pair.

Last year I tried his endorphin speed 3s (too narrow the the toe box) and today I tried a pair of saucony ride 16s. These are very different from my 1080s in that there feels like there’s almost no cushion. They didn’t feel bad, but they also didn’t feel great.

What I like about the idea of rides: they come in a wide variety of colors, and I can get them for a pretty good discount off Amazon on older models.

What I didn’t like: they felt like they had no cushion. But I understand that this isn’t a highly cushioned shoe and I’m used to a pretty soft shoe.

How do I reconcile “these are too squishy” and then not like a shoe that’s literally not squishy? Is there an adjustment period I need to allow for? Or should I just look for a more cushioned shoe and not mess around with rides at all?

Have you tried out the Triumph yet? They are my preferred easy running shoe. Nonetheless, I believe that @DopeyBadger really likes the Rides.

You might want to try the Puma Velocity Nitro. I run my easy runs rotating between Saucony Triumph and Puma Velocity Nitro.

 

[Herding_Cats]

Have you tried out the Triumph yet? They are my preferred easy running shoe. Nonetheless, I believe that @DopeyBadger really likes the Rides.

You might want to try the Puma Velocity Nitro. I run my easy runs rotating between Saucony Triumph and Puma Velocity Nitro.

I haven’t tried the triumphs yet, but they are on my list of things to try on. I don’t need new shoes yet (just in the planning stages) and we have a hefty vet bill coming up next week. The rides I just got for DS were $44….i can justify $44 shoes right now. $144 shoes, now so much

 

[camaker]

I need a reality check if I’m being unreasonable in my expectations. I’m working on trying some new shoes out because I don’t love how squishy NB 1080s have gotten (I’ve been wearing 1080s for 3 years.) DS2 wears the same size shoe as I do, so I will sometimes test-run his when he gets a new pair.

Last year I tried his endorphin speed 3s (too narrow the the toe box) and today I tried a pair of saucony ride 16s. These are very different from my 1080s in that there feels like there’s almost no cushion. They didn’t feel bad, but they also didn’t feel great.

What I like about the idea of rides: they come in a wide variety of colors, and I can get them for a pretty good discount off Amazon on older models.

What I didn’t like: they felt like they had no cushion. But I understand that this isn’t a highly cushioned shoe and I’m used to a pretty soft shoe.

How do I reconcile “these are too squishy” and then not like a shoe that’s literally not squishy? Is there an adjustment period I need to allow for? Or should I just look for a more cushioned shoe and not mess around with rides at all?

I think you have to keep in mind that squishy is not binary, it's a spectrum. It's perfectly reasonable to find one shoe too squishy and another not squishy enough. It sounds like you got along well with the 1080s, which are a squishy shoe, right up until they got too squishy for you. I had the same experience with the Brooks Glycerins. It sounds like you swung the pendulum too far in your quest for a replacement. I'd wager you'll still be happy with a squishy shoe, you just need to find a little less squish. For me, what worked was dropping from the max squishiness of the Glycerin to the somewhat less squishy Ghosts. You need to find your Ghost analogues. I'll also say that it's generally obvious pretty quickly if a shoe is or isn't going to work for me. I'd hesitate to try to force the Rides to work if they don't feel right at this point.

Sorry for such a long post. I don't think I've ever typed "squishy" so much and it was kinda fun...

 

[Professor_Cookie]

I think you have to keep in mind that squishy is not binary, it's a spectrum. It's perfectly reasonable to find one shoe too squishy and another not squishy enough. It sounds like you got along well with the 1080s, which are a squishy shoe, right up until they got too squishy for you. I had the same experience with the Brooks Glycerins. It sounds like you swung the pendulum too far in your quest for a replacement. I'd wager you'll still be happy with a squishy shoe, you just need to find a little less squish. For me, what worked was dropping from the max squishiness of the Glycerin to the somewhat less squishy Ghosts. You need to find your Ghost analogues. I'll also say that it's generally obvious pretty quickly if a shoe is or isn't going to work for me. I'd hesitate to try to force the Rides to work if they don't feel right at this point.

Sorry for such a long post. I don't think I've ever typed "squishy" so much and it was kinda fun...

As posts go, it was quite squishtastique

 

[Professor_Cookie]

I think you have to keep in mind that squishy is not binary, it's a spectrum. It's perfectly reasonable to find one shoe too squishy and another not squishy enough. It sounds like you got along well with the 1080s, which are a squishy shoe, right up until they got too squishy for you. I had the same experience with the Brooks Glycerins. It sounds like you swung the pendulum too far in your quest for a replacement. I'd wager you'll still be happy with a squishy shoe, you just need to find a little less squish. For me, what worked was dropping from the max squishiness of the Glycerin to the somewhat less squishy Ghosts. You need to find your Ghost analogues. I'll also say that it's generally obvious pretty quickly if a shoe is or isn't going to work for me. I'd hesitate to try to force the Rides to work if they don't feel right at this point.

Sorry for such a long post. I don't think I've ever typed "squishy" so much and it was kinda fun...

Wait, I got another! The search for the right shoe isn’t just squishful thinking

 

[MissLiss279]

I need a reality check if I’m being unreasonable in my expectations. I’m working on trying some new shoes out because I don’t love how squishy NB 1080s have gotten (I’ve been wearing 1080s for 3 years.) DS2 wears the same size shoe as I do, so I will sometimes test-run his when he gets a new pair.

Last year I tried his endorphin speed 3s (too narrow the the toe box) and today I tried a pair of saucony ride 16s. These are very different from my 1080s in that there feels like there’s almost no cushion. They didn’t feel bad, but they also didn’t feel great.

What I like about the idea of rides: they come in a wide variety of colors, and I can get them for a pretty good discount off Amazon on older models.

What I didn’t like: they felt like they had no cushion. But I understand that this isn’t a highly cushioned shoe and I’m used to a pretty soft shoe.

How do I reconcile “these are too squishy” and then not like a shoe that’s literally not squishy? Is there an adjustment period I need to allow for? Or should I just look for a more cushioned shoe and not mess around with rides at all?

A few years ago, I got a pair of shoes. I think they were NB, but not sure which ones. I liked them, but then I wore them for some medium distance runs maybe 8 miles, and I decided then that I could probably wear them for a half, but after that they wouldn’t have enough cushion for what I like.
So, I would be hesitant to pick a shoe that feels like it doesn’t have much cushion.

 

[Herding_Cats]

I’m mostly trying to decide if I *need* the squishy shoes, or if it’s just what I’m used to because they’re also my everyday shoe.

 

[PrincessV]

I need a reality check if I’m being unreasonable in my expectations. I’m working on trying some new shoes out because I don’t love how squishy NB 1080s have gotten (I’ve been wearing 1080s for 3 years.) DS2 wears the same size shoe as I do, so I will sometimes test-run his when he gets a new pair.

Last year I tried his endorphin speed 3s (too narrow the the toe box) and today I tried a pair of saucony ride 16s. These are very different from my 1080s in that there feels like there’s almost no cushion. They didn’t feel bad, but they also didn’t feel great.

What I like about the idea of rides: they come in a wide variety of colors, and I can get them for a pretty good discount off Amazon on older models.

What I didn’t like: they felt like they had no cushion. But I understand that this isn’t a highly cushioned shoe and I’m used to a pretty soft shoe.

How do I reconcile “these are too squishy” and then not like a shoe that’s literally not squishy? Is there an adjustment period I need to allow for? Or should I just look for a more cushioned shoe and not mess around with rides at all?

I TOTALLY get this post! Finding the right balance is hard. What I have figured out over the ears is that I like an interior that’s bedroom-slipper plush, but a responsive outsole with some pop - and I need a good amount of flex in the forefoot. The Glycerin 16 nailed that, though at the price of a lot of weight. I tried the Ride 15, which is nearly identical to the 16, and the pop is great! But the lack of cushion is in an issue - I managed a 10-miler in them but my feet HURT by the end.

Lately I’ve been running in ASICS Cumulus 25, which feels insanely cushioned at first because the interior is SO plush… but it responds well for me when I pick up the pace. The bad news is that they completely changed the shoe for the 26 model: I haven’t tired it yet, but very review talks about its rocker platform, which is always a bad deal for me, so I assume it won’t work.

I’ve tried the Triumph and found it lacking in interior cushion and the forefoot was too narrow for me. On my Maybe list are the newest Nimbus and Novablast - haven't tired them yet, but reviews sound promising-ish.

You might want to try the Puma Velocity Nitro. I run my easy runs rotating between Saucony Triumph and Puma Velocity Nitro.

I’d like to know more about the Velocity Nitro! How’s the fit? I have such a hard time finding a shoe that’s wide across the metatarsals with a narrow ankle collar - any chance they might work?

 

[DisneyParrothead]

I think you have to keep in mind that squishy is not binary, it's a spectrum. It's perfectly reasonable to find one shoe too squishy and another not squishy enough. It sounds like you got along well with the 1080s, which are a squishy shoe, right up until they got too squishy for you. I had the same experience with the Brooks Glycerins. It sounds like you swung the pendulum too far in your quest for a replacement. I'd wager you'll still be happy with a squishy shoe, you just need to find a little less squish. For me, what worked was dropping from the max squishiness of the Glycerin to the somewhat less squishy Ghosts. You need to find your Ghost analogues. I'll also say that it's generally obvious pretty quickly if a shoe is or isn't going to work for me. I'd hesitate to try to force the Rides to work if they don't feel right at this point.

Sorry for such a long post. I don't think I've ever typed "squishy" so much and it was kinda fun...

I shall call him Squishy and he shall be mine and he shall be my Squishy.

 

[kps7795]

I TOTALLY get this post! Finding the right balance is hard. What I have figured out over the ears is that I like an interior that’s bedroom-slipper plush, but a responsive outsole with some pop - and I need a good amount of flex in the forefoot. The Glycerin 16 nailed that, though at the price of a lot of weight. I tried the Ride 15, which is nearly identical to the 16, and the pop is great! But the lack of cushion is in an issue - I managed a 10-miler in them but my feet HURT by the end.

Lately I’ve been running in ASICS Cumulus 25, which feels insanely cushioned at first because the interior is SO plush… but it responds well for me when I pick up the pace. The bad news is that they completely changed the shoe for the 26 model: I haven’t tired it yet, but very review talks about its rocker platform, which is always a bad deal for me, so I assume it won’t work.

I’ve tried the Triumph and found it lacking in interior cushion and the forefoot was too narrow for me. On my Maybe list are the newest Nimbus and Novablast - haven't tired them yet, but reviews sound promising-ish.

I’d like to know more about the Velocity Nitro! How’s the fit? I have such a hard time finding a shoe that’s wide across the metatarsals with a narrow ankle collar - any chance they might work?

The ankle collar fits my foot perfectly, but I'm afraid that you might find that your toes are a little squished if you're looking for something extra wide in the toe box. For me, this shoe fits perfectly but I have a rather narrow foot.

 

[Kerry1957]

So I think I understand...You can have too much, not enough, or just right squishy-ness.

But squished toes are never good.