The Running Thread - 2018

QOTD: If you are normally a road runner and run a trail run, how much of a difference in pace do you allow to be equal? If you have done this how close were you to you estimate?

ATTQOTD: I asked this question because I had a trail run this weekend, that also happened at night. I thought I could run about 9:30 for the run, which was a extra 30 seconds per mile I thought I could do for a race on pavement at this time. Well I was way off!!! I finished with a 10:30 pace. I underestimated the trail part and how much more difficult the night part would make things. I tried for the first few miles to keep it below 10, but after nearly falling a few times I decided to dial it back and just enjoy the run. Next time I think I will allow at least 60-90 seconds per mile for the trails.

No trails for me but I have been running a TON of hills since I moved and I have just learned to adjust my expectations for my times and now I am fine. I would imagine it is the same kind of thing as trail running.


ATTQOTD: I have never run on trails. I also am afraid of falling and killing myself. Also ticks and chiggers. :scared:

I haven't been on the boards much lately as I am depressed about my lack of running. I had a sciatica flare up a couple of weeks ago. It only lasted a couple of days but walking, standing, sleeping poorly to compensate for my bad side made me hurt my back and I have been having pretty constant pain since. Doctors just want to throw pain meds at me so I am just taking it slow and letting it heal on my own. But I haven't run in weeks and even before that I was only running maybe 3 days a week. I feel like all my endurance is down the drain and I will have to start from scratch for WDW Marathon training. I feel like a wimp being depressed over this as some of you have so much more worse health problems to deal with. Sigh.

I have been doing terrible with the running since I injured myself as well. But recently I found my motivation and the endurance comes back much quicker than you think. As for the back pain, have you considered yoga to help fix the problem? You would think all the twisting and bending wouldn't help but I have heard it does wonders for various injuries like yours. It helps strengthen the core.


QOTD: Lets talk about running and headaches today. If you have a headache are you able to run with it? How often do you get them and whats the best methods for getting rid of them?

ATTQOTD: I do not always have headaches but once I get one they seem to come in a series for a few days. Yesterday I had one, but was determined to try to run. After 1/4 mile it got much worse and I shut it down. I was very aggravated about the whole situation. I get headaches and my best method for getting them to go away is going into a dark and quite room and simply have to sleep it off. I am absolutely useless when I have one. The more sound and light I'm exposed to the worse it gets. I am a wimp essentially with those darn things.

I don't get a lot of headaches. When I do it is usually because of stress and running helps relax me. So when I do have a headache I often run to get rid of it.


Hi everyone! New guy here. I have been peeking in here now and again, thought I would finally say hi! I have had an on again off again relationship with running in my life, I ran track in middle school, but then stopped until after college, when I did some jogging to lose some weight. Stopped again after I met my now wife, started and stopped again a few times as I attempted to manage said weight over the years. Mostly failed (was obese from high school on, even while jogging on and off, and 2.5 years ago, tipped the scale at 300 lbs). Had enough, and started walking and counting calories, and then started jogging once I hit the 250 mark. Been going strong ever since, and at 165 lb now, I reached my healthy weight goal and now am looking forward to improving my speed/endurance. I am signed up for my first official half marathon in November (Savannah Rock n Roll), and am excited to see how well I can do.

Welcome! Sounds like you have a good story to tell and can offer a lot of motivation to people.
 
Hey @LSUlakes, I just remembered that I never gave you my WDW marathon weekend races for the list since I was waiting to officially register... (I went through a TA and just got my link last week)

January 2019:
10 - SarahDisney - Walt Disney World 5K (59:59 / N/A)
11 - SarahDisney - Walt Disney World 10K (No Rain / N/A)
13 - SarahDisney - Walt Disney World Marathon (6:59:59 / N/A)

Thanks!
 
There are a couple of things to unpack here. First off, what you're describing sounds like a textbook migraine. I'll run with a normal headache, but a full blown migraine would not be something I'd run with. If you are having migraines, have you talked to the doctor about specific diagnosis and treatment options? I've had migraines with varying frequency for my entire life. At their peak, I was averaging almost 3/week and working with a neurologist to try to prevent them. The best prevention for me seems to be limiting triggers, especially stress. As far as treatment goes, have you tried Imitrex/Relpax/sumatriptans? The sumatriptan-based drugs were a life changer for me. I went from being sentenced to an early bed time in a cool dark room whenever I had a headache to being able to get rid of the headache within an hour or two with the drug. There are also some other options for treatment these days, but the sumatriptans work so well for me I haven't needed to try them out. My strong advice is to work on preventing and treating the headaches rather than just living with or trying to power through them.

At nearly 35 I am ashamed to say I do not have a "Dr". I've talked to my wife about it and we agree I need one but then we never get around to it. About the headaches, they typically start off a sinus type headache, but if I can get it to go away within a hour or so, it goes south in a hurry. My sister has them as well and the meds she takes do little to help most of the time. Not saying they would not work for me, I just need to get a GP to go see about things like this and common colds, ect.

Hi everyone! New guy here. I have been peeking in here now and again, thought I would finally say hi! I have had an on again off again relationship with running in my life, I ran track in middle school, but then stopped until after college, when I did some jogging to lose some weight. Stopped again after I met my now wife, started and stopped again a few times as I attempted to manage said weight over the years. Mostly failed (was obese from high school on, even while jogging on and off, and 2.5 years ago, tipped the scale at 300 lbs). Had enough, and started walking and counting calories, and then started jogging once I hit the 250 mark. Been going strong ever since, and at 165 lb now, I reached my healthy weight goal and now am looking forward to improving my speed/endurance. I am signed up for my first official half marathon in November (Savannah Rock n Roll), and am excited to see how well I can do.

Welcome to the thread! What an amazing story and dedication required to obtain your goals! Look forward to you participating in our QOTD's if you are interested. Best of luck with you half in November. Let me know if you would like me to add that race to the list in the first post. Format should look something like November xx - AntimonyER - RNR Savannah Half Marathon (Goal Time / Actual Time)
 

FWIW I used to get a lot of headaches that could only be cured by some form of caffeine. When I realized the connection (i.e. caffeine addiction) and quit drinking caffeine entirely, I stopped getting those types of headaches!
Yep, caffeine can be a migraine trigger, too. I've only ever had 1/2 a cup of coffee with breakfast and no issues, so either it's not a trigger for me, or I don't consume enough caffeine to be a problem. Caffeine helps once a migraine has started, though, because it constricts blood vessels. I keep the little cans of Pepsi on hand just in case, and use maybe 3 per year.
 
ATTQOTD headaches: If I can reshuffle my week to run at a better time, I will. If I have to run, I will take a Tylenol and hope it is enough.

Of course removing the trigger is important so I try to sleep enough, drink enough, have my coffee before it is too late, not catch cold, etc... And I accept that there are a couple of days in the month that I just have to chill.
 
That sounds fantastic. My wife is lactose intolerant, so on the last trip we flagged the dining reservations for her as having dietary issues with milk. Problem was, this generally dropped her into the 'generic allergy' category, so she got the gluten-free, dairy-free, nut-free, texture-free, flavor-free bread (for example) - even though she's fine with, for example, butter.

Might need to see what we can do for the next one to make life easier for her while still giving her food she wants to eat.
It is true that at a WDW restaurant, if you are tagged with the allergy label, Disney will be very, very conservative. The waiters cannot bring anything to the table until the chef has approved. If it is a light intolerance to lactose, I would just avoid ordering things with cream sauce or ice cream. And I would ask during the meal if they have lactose free milk or accept to drink something else.

I am trying to remember but I do think that the Starbucks at WDW had lactose free cow milk unlike their other locations in the US (they do have it in Canada).

Also, Disney Cruise line can deliver glass of lactose free milk in your room.

To conclude, if you have to have lactose free milk at certain specific hours everywhere at WDW, I would get a quart and keep it in the resort room fridge (if not cold enough, call for service) and carry one thermos of it.

Edit: Dole Whip is dairy free.
 
ATTQOTD: I will try and run if the headache isn’t too bad and usually ends up helping. I have had migraines at times and they completely wipe me out. It starts with a slight headache and my vision starts to be affected and then it can make me sick to my stomach with a pounding headache. I haven’t had one in over two years and here’s hoping they stay away!
 
ATTQOTD: I will run depending on the type of headache. Stress, tension, or cold headaches I still run. I usually feel better after I run. Migraines forget it. It just makes me want to puke. I try not to take anything for headaches but if it is severe enough Goody's headache powder usually works best for me (but I can only take it sparingly because it hurts my stomach).
 
If I have a headache before I run, I run with it and usually the running actually helps it.

If I get a headache after I didn't drink enough. I used to get headaches a lot more often from not drinking enough. I get the occasional pressure headache with the weather.
 
It is true that at a WDW restaurant, if you are tagged with the allergy label, Disney will be very, very conservative. The waiters cannot bring anything to the table until the chef has approved. If it is a light intolerance to lactose, I would just avoid ordering things with cream sauce or ice cream. And I would ask during the meal if they have lactose free milk or accept to drink something else.

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Edit: Dole Whip is dairy free.

She's had decent luck at the buffets - if you tell the server there, generally one of the chefs will walk you through the buffet and tell you what is and isn't okay. The problem is generally (again) flagging 'dairy is a problem' vs. 'lactose is a problem'. Other than that, yeah, she just avoids cheeses and obvious dairy.

And she's quite aware that Dole Whip is dairy free - there was a booth with it at the county fair this year, which she enjoyed quite a bit.
 
ATTQOTD: I will never run with a migraine (nauseous and sensitive to light) or sinus headache (slight breeze on my face feels like it’s being sliced in half). Also if it’s in the base of my head near my neck, I won’t run as that’s a sign I need to stretch my neck out; I had a neck injury in college, so I get a little nervous still when there’s pain. But any other type of headache, running certainly helps! Just got to get past the discomfort at the beginning, then it normally is cured.
 
ATTQOTD: Usually if I am running with a headache it's because I am hungover. I take some advil, drink some water, and normally feel better after I am done running.
 
Welcome to the thread! What an amazing story and dedication required to obtain your goals! Look forward to you participating in our QOTD's if you are interested. Best of luck with you half in November. Let me know if you would like me to add that race to the list in the first post. Format should look something like November xx - AntimonyER - RNR Savannah Half Marathon (Goal Time / Actual Time)

Thanks! That would be fine.
November 03 - AntimonyER - RNR Savannah Half Marathon (1:57:00/TBD)
 
ATTQOTD: I really don't get headaches that much. When I do it's either because I'm sick or we are moving. With a sick headache, it will depend on how I'm feeling overall. Usually I just bring some extra tissues for sinus pressure and push through. For some reason, every move I get a terrible multi-day migraine. I'm pretty much useless with those but I don't have too much time to run then anyway.
 
ATTQOTD: I judge based on how I'm functioning with that headache. Am I still working/doing things at home? Run. Am I in a dark room being pained by the dim alarm clock glow? Rest.
 
Resurfacing after the conclusion of a two week trial. Working 13-16 hour days for the better part of three weeks has certainly set back training. I had hoped to fit in some light training during what I expected to be a one week case, but unfortunately it went a week longer than predicted. August has been a complete wash.
 
I'm replaying last year's marathon plan, created by you-know-who. (Not tagging him, saving the badger signal for when I really need it.)

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Well done. Nice to see the HR drop. That's a really good sign if the environmental conditions were similar.
Incredible. Even when the badger signal is not sent up, he still knows to come. Maybe we'll have to start calling it his badger sense.

QOTD: Lets talk about running and headaches today. If you have a headache are you able to run with it? How often do you get them and whats the best methods for getting rid of them?

ATTQOTD: I do not always have headaches but once I get one they seem to come in a series for a few days. Yesterday I had one, but was determined to try to run. After 1/4 mile it got much worse and I shut it down. I was very aggravated about the whole situation. I get headaches and my best method for getting them to go away is going into a dark and quite room and simply have to sleep it off. I am absolutely useless when I have one. The more sound and light I'm exposed to the worse it gets. I am a wimp essentially with those darn things.
I agree with the others. It sounds like a migraine. Sometimes identifying the triggers can help reduce them. I have family members who suffer from them and migraines are miserable.

I had a searing headache yesterday. I should have at least tried to run through it because it probably might have actually helped it improve.

Hey @LSUlakes, I just remembered that I never gave you my WDW marathon weekend races for the list since I was waiting to officially register... (I went through a TA and just got my link last week)

January 2019:
10 - SarahDisney - Walt Disney World 5K (59:59 / N/A)
11 - SarahDisney - Walt Disney World 10K (No Rain / N/A)
13 - SarahDisney - Walt Disney World Marathon (6:59:59 / N/A)

Thanks!
I want to know what your challenge is named. Also, I like the 10K goal. Can we extend it to all 4 races?
 
I want to know what your challenge is named. Also, I like the 10K goal. Can we extend it to all 4 races?

Hmm ... I think we settled on "Intentional Grumpy" (because the year the half was cancelled the 3/4ths Dopey was unofficially nicknamed the Grumpy Challenge ... and this is the same three races).
And I would be good with everyone adopting my 10K goal for the whole weekend. Let's do that. Also no snow (hey, it's not unprecedented!).
 
Also no snow (hey, it's not unprecedented!).

As I mentioned in another thread I would be ok with snow as long as it did not cancel the race. But if it did, that means the roads would be shut down and somehow I would have to figure out how to run 26.2 miles that day. lol
 














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