The official de-rail this post thread!

[Mysterian]

@_19disnA I'm laughing behind the scenes thinking about our PMs not too long ago!

@Mysterian are you trying to stir the pot already?

@LuvOrlando I love (your) threads that end up spiraling into deletion!

Basically, I love these boards and how you can really see someone's personality shine through after a bit. Flames aside, sometimes I think most of us are somewhat older than the normal FB group crowds so we have a different tolerance and quirkiness. JMHO.

The poster sincerely sounds like a collage of Stiller characters, especially the ones from Heavyweights and Dodgeball:

That said, and that deserves to be said, and said this time with photos, but I digress: It seems strange when an alias shows up, who isn't forthcoming about their original identity, and starts up about the board.

How could their previous identity not get that this was an off-topic subforum on a Disney board? And everything they listed is common to the majority of boards out there. It's not like you need to study the Higgs boson to get that, yo!

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Interesting.

This has me wondering what your thoughts are on the new pitch clock in baseball.

Discuss...

My son is a pitcher (collegiate, and now adult leagues), and speeding things up is no sweat off his back (pun intended.)

As an MLB viewer, I won’t miss players fiddling with their gloves with every pitch and calling time every two seconds.

 

[Lumpy1106]

The one sport that you pretty much KNOW how long the game will take?

I am a soccer referee and I can tell you with confidence; even I don't know how long the game will be until the final whistle blows (LOL)

 

[tvguy]

The general users probably don't care about "clicks" and views and ad revenues. If they did, you wouldn't see the posts suggesting ad blockers and other solutions to get rid of ads. Since there has been no statement from a mod or webmaster about encouraging finding ways to get ad revenue (or discouraging ways to work around ad revenue), I figure they don't have a problem with it.

General users don't care about clicks and views on any board. Allegedly the moderators are volunteers which is rather bizarre for any commercial board, so I can see that they wouldn't care and likely don't have the training to even make them aware of it.
The DIS board owners do seem in recent years to have lost interest in the boards. Some time I will have to have my son look at web traffic here. I bet it is a quarter of what it was 15 years ago.

 

[sam_gordon]

General users don't care about clicks and views on any board. Allegedly the moderators are volunteers which is rather bizarre for any commercial board, so I can see that they wouldn't care and likely don't have the training to even make them aware of it.
The DIS board owners do seem in recent years to have lost interest in the boards. Some time I will have to have my son look at web traffic here. I bet it is a quarter of what it was 15 years ago.

So if you agree the general users don't care about clicks and views, why did you say "those are things you want to encourage"? It's the general users who get critical about threads staying on topic or zombie threads.

And yes, board traffic probably is down. I think part of that is what some see as "heavy handed" moderation on what's allowed to be discussed. Don't get me wrong, the owners get to set what they allow, that's totally their right. But it wouldn't surprise me that users have left because A) they're not visiting Disney like they used to and/or B) they can't discuss what they'd like to discuss.

 

[sam_gordon]

Example I saw this morning:

”I'm trying to stay out of your little discussion here but had to point out that streaming is only bleeding money due to the cost side, it is not at all due to the customer/subscriber side.”

Saying

“Streaming is only bleeding money due to the cost side, it is not at all due to the customer/subscriber side”

… is not enough to some people.

I suppose even now some will say the bolded part is nothing. Well, to some, maybe it’s not. But to others, it is.

I'll readily admit I don't see any "snark" in the bolded. Is it necessary? No. Is it insulting or a "dig"? IMO, also no.

One thing I've said for years, and I need to remind myself of it often, is you can't read tone in the written word. Something can be written as a joke or totally innocuous, but the reader sees an insult.

I'll also admit I've had some snarky posts. Sometimes it is to make me laugh, sometimes it's to make others laugh, and yes, sometimes it's to get a "dig" in at someone, whether "mean" or "well" spirited. Not really any different than a conversation you'd have with a group of people... especially those you know well.

 

[tvguy]

So if you agree the general users don't care about clicks and views, why did you say "those are things you want to encourage"? It's the general users who get critical about threads staying on topic or zombie threads.

And yes, board traffic probably is down. I think part of that is what some see as "heavy handed" moderation on what's allowed to be discussed. Don't get me wrong, the owners get to set what they allow, that's totally their right. But it wouldn't surprise me that users have left because A) they're not visiting Disney like they used to and/or B) they can't discuss what they'd like to discuss.

Because lots of clicks and views generate lots of replies and that makes for a Discussion. The most replies a thread gets, the more interesting and informative it is. I don't think that "general" users care much about staying on topic, or zombie threads. I think those folks are in the minority.
As for moderation, it should be in moderation according to one of the presenters of a seminar I attended. But I'm not sure that kind of training is made available here.

 

[_19disnA]

And there are probably a LOT more online forums then 15 yrs ago (just like social media sites) so while the number of users has perhaps increased overall, it gets spread around far more websites then were previously available. There are also any number of Disney blogs/youtube channels, etc. providing a variety of current information.

 

[sam_gordon]

As for moderation, it should be in moderation according to one of the presenters of a seminar I attended. But I'm not sure that kind of training is made available here.

It should be moderated the way the owners want it.

 

[sam_gordon]

I am a soccer referee and I can tell you with confidence; even I don't know how long the game will be until the final whistle blows (LOL)

Here's the thing, barring Extra Time (which only happens in certain circumstances), games will pretty much be over +/- 10 minutes from when they should.

A professional match with 45 minute halves? 45+45 = 90 + 15 minute half time + 10 min added time = 115 minutes... just short of two hours (with 90 minutes of "clock" time).

A youth match with 30 minute halves? 30+30=60 + 10 minute half time + 10 (probably <5 actually) added time = 80 minutes (with 60 minutes of "clock" time).

College basketball? 2x20 minute halves = 40 + 15 minute half + time outs + commercials + free throws + OOB = 2+ hours (with 40 minutes of "clock" time)?

Football? 4x15 quarters = 60 + half time + time outs + commercials + OOB = 3 1/2 hours (with 60 minutes of "clock" time)?

I'm not familiar with lacrosse, water polo, or field hockey. Used to watch our local semi-pro hockey team, but IIRC, hockey has a lot of clock stoppages too.

 

[Lumpy1106]

So if you agree the general users don't care about clicks and views, why did you say "those are things you want to encourage"? It's the general users who get critical about threads staying on topic or zombie threads.

And yes, board traffic probably is down. I think part of that is what some see as "heavy handed" moderation on what's allowed to be discussed. Don't get me wrong, the owners get to set what they allow, that's totally their right. But it wouldn't surprise me that users have left because A) they're not visiting Disney like they used to and/or B) they can't discuss what they'd like to discuss.

Yup.

 

[Uncle Coaster]

Likewise - I'm not much of a baseball fan but my kids play lacrosse and the college game has a shot clock, High school does not. Most of the time it does not matter but I have been to HS level tournaments where a team gets up by a couple of goals and is then under no obligation to do anything. That can get boring and frustrating, and you certainly don't see that in college games.

How about a shot clock in soccer?

Well, I'm not much of a soccer fan so it is hard for me to say. Actually, I would probably be the target audience for a shot clock because it would provide more action and make the game more exciting for a non-fan, I guess.

 

[mrodgers]

Why do you think this is the case here, in particular?

It's not a case of here in particular. It's the internet. It's everywhere. Have you never read facebook or youtube comments? Never read comments on a news media site? Doesn't matter if it's the heroin addict looking crowd on Facebook or the rich middle class of expensive vacation sites, it's all the same pool of people, a pool of humans.

 

[mrodgers]

One big issue with off-topic sections is the discussions of current events. You can not separate current events from politics, especially in today's world. As long as there is 2 sides that can be discussed, it is a politics. One side is accepted by one person, another side is accepted by another person. Problem is, forums are run by people who also have sides, thus one side can talk about said current event as long as it's the side the board agrees with while the other side must stay silent or get called out on politics.

Example is shootings. People jump on the gun aspect of it. That is way political. But that side of that issue is accepted and if you post from the other side, you get called out for being political.

 

[mom2rtk]

Just because people disagree with you, or have questions, it does not mean they are trying to derail a thread.

 

[nw6675]

I know people mention you can't tell tone, but I disagree. Particularly when it's the same frequent flyers spewing crap. (Can I say crap lol). There are certain posters that I think good grief here we go again any time I see them. I'm too much of a glutton for punishment to ignore them.

On the other hand, there are a few seemingly old curmudgeon on here who actually have pretty good insight. Even if they are crotchety lol.

 

[LuvOrlando]

-whoops wrong spot

 

[sam_gordon]

One big issue with off-topic sections is the discussions of current events. You can not separate current events from politics, especially in today's world. As long as there is 2 sides that can be discussed, it is a politics. One side is accepted by one person, another side is accepted by another person. Problem is, forums are run by people who also have sides, thus one side can talk about said current event as long as it's the side the board agrees with while the other side must stay silent or get called out on politics.

Example is shootings. People jump on the gun aspect of it. That is way political. But that side of that issue is accepted and if you post from the other side, you get called out for being political.

I disagree with the bolded. There are all kinds of disagreements on the board that don't qualify as "political". Look at @fly girl's post about her car getting dinged. There's two sides discussing the appropriateness of school busses vs public transportation. That's not "politics". That's "opinions".

There are lots of subjects that ARE bound by politics that we can't discuss here... but, at the same time, if you (general) are not happy with the way things are run, no one is forcing you to be here. In fact, speaking of the car ding thread, weren't you calling out those who criticized school pickup lines for actually being in the pick up line and helping cause the problem? But it's ok for you to criticize how this board is run, yet you still participate in it. Care to explain that?

 

[The Mayor]

I’ve been on the Dis since 2003 (different user name) and I’ve seen many ebbs and flows over the years where people have come and gone here. Many different personalities, some friendly and some always either having to be right all the time or seemingly just looking to argue. The CB has cleaned up a lot since the demise of the Debate Board (which I enjoyed) and the banning of political discussions (which I enjoyed the ones that were civil).

I do believe that the Dis in general is a lot more friendlier now than when I first joined. Especially the CB. I don’t post nearly as much as I did in the early days but when I do have a question, Disney related or just general info question, I get a lot of good answers and help from this board.

I’ve said this a lot over the years here. If anything on here makes you uncomfortable or you’re not liking what you read here then ignore or join another discussion board.

 

[momz]

I come to the dis for one reason only.... to stir the pot.

hahaha, not really, but it is good fun.