The Official 2013 Wine and Dine Half Marathon Thread

[StarGirl11]

So apparently I am in Corral H. Have to say the that surprises me since I wasn't expecting the corral letters to go all the way to L! But I am apparently still starting at the same time I thought I was going to (10:20).

Had a good 3 miler this evening. A bit slower than I had planned but it was also hillier of a route than I remembered so hey it works. I have a 10k on Sunday. Not trying for a corral change for this race but attempting to make sure I have a good corral placement for Tinker Bel in January. Will also be taking my race pace out for a test run there. Not sure how well it will work since its not as flat as Disney World. My real test will come in a couple of weeks at a 10k where I am making a last ditch effort to get a good corral spot for Tinker Bell in CA. That has a really flat course.

The loss of Everest kind of saddens me. My friend and I were discussing possibly doing the race together next year or if not then 2015. Heck her Mom had actually talked their Dad, the guy who never runs, into doing a 5k! Hope they put something up in its place and hopefully a night race! I love night races!

 

[jpeka65844]

How do I know my start time?

 

[cewait]

How do I know my start time?

It's in the race program

 

[pix13dust]

It's in the race program

I saw on FaceBook my start time is 10:33, I'm in K. I'm curious, where do you find this race program?
Thanks
Melinda

 

[wood8176]

Where do you find this race program?
Thanks
Melinda

On the runDisney website, under Runner Info...

but here's a shortcut...

http://as1.wdpromedia.com/media/rundisney/pdf/wine-dine/Wine&Dine13_Program.pdf

 

[pix13dust]

On the runDisney website, under Runner Info... but here's a shortcut... http://as1.wdpromedia.com/media/rundisney/pdf/wine-dine/Wine&Dine13_Program.pdf

Thanks!

 

[funnybunny921]

I don't know how to find my bib number. This is my first run disney race - can i not find it until we get our race packet?

Throwing a huge kink into this is I don't have an active.com account, so when my husband signed both of us up he just did it under his account. I have a confirm, but cannot fin my race info anywhere.

 

[wood8176]

I don't know how to find my bib number. This is my first run disney race - can i not find it until we get our race packet?

Throwing a huge kink into this is I don't have an active.com account, so when my husband signed both of us up he just did it under his account. I have a confirm, but cannot fin my race info anywhere.

SmartGuyCEO posted this link a few pages back.
http://www.trackshack.com/disneysports/w13wd/verify.php
If you go through the steps as if to print your waiver, you'll find in the bottom right corner of the waiver is where your name and Bib number are located.

You don't have to print the waiver now, you can print it again as it gets closer to the date. You don't need an active account, just your last name and birthdate.

 

[funnybunny921]

SmartGuyCEO posted this link a few pages back.
http://www.trackshack.com/disneysports/w13wd/verify.php
If you go through the steps as if to print your waiver, you'll find in the bottom right corner of the waiver is where your name and Bib number are located.

You don't have to print the waiver now, you can print it again as it gets closer to the date. You don't need an active account, just your last name and birthdate.

Thank you!!!!

 

[peachygreen]

Decisions - Decisions - Decisions.

Ok so I am pretty much creating my own training plan for the last 5 weeks. This is what happens when you run with a group that is not training for the race you are training for.

The last 2 weeks I have done 12.5 miles (Sat 9/21) and a 10 mile race (Sunday 9/29)

Option 1 - starting tomorrow
10/5 - 16 miles with marathon group (9.3 and then pick up the 1/2 group for 6.6 miles)
10/12 - 5 miles
10/19 - 4 miles
10/26 - 12 miles (6 on my own followed by 6 with the marathon training group)
11/2 - 4 miles
11/9 - 1/2 Marathon Race

Option 2 - Switch over to a modified the Wine & Dine half Marathon plan
10/5 - 9.3 miles (with group - drop off for the last 6.6 miles)
10/12 - 12.5 miles (7.5 miles on my own and 5 miles with group)
10/19 - 4 miles
10/26 - 14 miles (8 miles on my own (very early start) followed by 6 miles with marathon training group)
11/2 - 4 miles
11/9 - 1/2 marathon race


I have concerns about both options.
Option 1 concerns- do I really need to run 16 miles tomorrow. That is a lot of miles for a 1/2 marathon program and would make 3 weeks of double digit miles in a row. It also puts my longest mileage 5 weeks before the race. I would still have another close to race run 2 weeks to go.

Option 2 concerns- I have 2 long runs planned where I would do a bulk of the mileage on my own with early early starts. It leads to 4 weeks of long mileage in a row (12.5, 10, 9.5, 12)

It is possible I suppose for me to cut the corner so to speak and run 4.3 miles in the 2nd loop instead of the full 6.6 tomorrow and cut my run down to 13.6 miles tomorrow.

Once I make the decision tomorrow it will be made and the path will be choosen. Tomorrow morning's weather looks to be pretty nice. 74-76 with 97-100% humidity and 20% chance of rain.

 

[cewait]

Decisions - Decisions - Decisions.

Ok so I am pretty much creating my own training plan for the last 5 weeks. This is what happens when you run with a group that is not training for the race you are training for.

The last 2 weeks I have done 12.5 miles (Sat 9/21) and a 10 mile race (Sunday 9/29)

Option 1 - starting tomorrow
10/5 - 16 miles with marathon group (9.3 and then pick up the 1/2 group for 6.6 miles)
10/12 - 5 miles
10/19 - 4 miles
10/26 - 12 miles (6 on my own followed by 6 with the marathon training group)
11/2 - 4 miles
11/9 - 1/2 Marathon Race

Option 2 - Switch over to a modified the Wine & Dine half Marathon plan
10/5 - 9.3 miles (with group - drop off for the last 6.6 miles)
10/12 - 12.5 miles (7.5 miles on my own and 5 miles with group)
10/19 - 4 miles
10/26 - 14 miles (8 miles on my own (very early start) followed by 6 miles with marathon training group)
11/2 - 4 miles
11/9 - 1/2 marathon race


I have concerns about both options.
Option 1 concerns- do I really need to run 16 miles tomorrow. That is a lot of miles for a 1/2 marathon program and would make 3 weeks of double digit miles in a row. It also puts my longest mileage 5 weeks before the race. I would still have another close to race run 2 weeks to go.

Option 2 concerns- I have 2 long runs planned where I would do a bulk of the mileage on my own with early early starts. It leads to 4 weeks of long mileage in a row (12.5, 10, 9.5, 12)

It is possible I suppose for me to cut the corner so to speak and run 4.3 miles in the 2nd loop instead of the full 6.6 tomorrow and cut my run down to 13.6 miles tomorrow.

Once I make the decision tomorrow it will be made and the path will be choosen. Tomorrow morning's weather looks to be pretty nice. 74-76 with 97-100% humidity and 20% chance of rain.

Thinking that you may only be thinking out loud I was not going to post... but being a crazy coach, i thought I would add a third option.

The largest question I have, "do you need to run 16 for a half?" The short answer is no. If you were running for me and given the data I have in front of me, I would suggest running 6 this weekend followed by 12-6-12-6-Race.

If you are looking for a little extra speed, beef up the weekday workouts with some 800 repeats, 40 minute tempo runs and hill work.

That would be my guidance.

 

[peachygreen]

Thinking that you may only be thinking out loud I was not going to post... but being a crazy coach, i thought I would add a third option.

The largest question I have, "do you need to run 16 for a half?" The short answer is no. If you were running for me and given the data I have in front of me, I would suggest running 6 this weekend followed by 12-6-12-6-Race.

If you are looking for a little extra speed, beef up the weekday workouts with some 800 repeats, 40 minute tempo runs and hill work.

That would be my guidance.

I was mostly thinking outloud, but I like that plan better. I really didn't want to run 16 this week. I need to kick up the intensity on the weekday runs.

What exactly is an 800 repeat?

Hill Work in Houston is challenging. I guess I need to hit the parking garages.

 

[kristenrice]

Help me out...

I have a 10k time of 1:10:20.8 to submit when I get there. The race was Sept 7 so after the deadline to submit online. I am currently in corral K so where might I end up with my time submitted? My husband is in a faster corral, even without submitting his time, so he will probably opt to move back with me. We're curious as to when we may be starting/finishing the race.

 

[peachygreen]

Help me out...

I have a 10k time of 1:10:20.8 to submit when I get there. The race was Sept 7 so after the deadline to submit online. I am currently in corral K so where might I end up with my time submitted? My husband is in a faster corral, even without submitting his time, so he will probably opt to move back with me. We're curious as to when we may be starting/finishing the race.

A 10k of 1:10:20 predicts a 2:35:11 half. That should be G

 

[pix13dust]

Help me out... I have a 10k time of 1:10:20.8 to submit when I get there. The race was Sept 7 so after the deadline to submit online. I am currently in corral K so where might I end up with my time submitted? My husband is in a faster corral, even without submitting his time, so he will probably opt to move back with me. We're curious as to when we may be starting/finishing the race.

Um, I'm pretty sure all the cool people are in K. You should probably stay in K!

 

[wood8176]

What exactly is an 800 repeat?

800 repeats would be something along the lines of a slow, easy 1 to 1.5 mile warm up, followed by a fast 800m (2 laps on a highschool track) followed by a jog. I use 1 lap as the measure of the jog, others use a time, like 2 to 3 mins. The key is to have a recovery between laps that allows your 800's to be consistent, then run another fast 800, then jog, etc. Finish with a 1-mile cool down jog. And stretch, I never feel tighter than after doing speedwork.
I like a total of 5 to 6 miles. That would be about 4 to 6 repeats with a mile and a half to warm up, and a mile to cool down, and single laps in between each 800.
I'm sure Coach could refine my suggestion and offer a pacing idea as well.

 

[DoctorK]

Oddball question: are the drop bags for W&D the kind that have backpack-like strings for easy toting during the post-race party? Or are they just the drawstring at the top kind?

 

[cewait]

800 repeats would be something along the lines of a slow, easy 1 to 1.5 mile warm up, followed by a fast 800m (2 laps on a highschool track) followed by a jog. I use 1 lap as the measure of the jog, others use a time, like 2 to 3 mins. The key is to have a recovery between laps that allows your 800's to be consistent, then run another fast 800, then jog, etc. Finish with a 1-mile cool down jog. And stretch, I never feel tighter than after doing speedwork.
I like a total of 5 to 6 miles. That would be about 4 to 6 repeats with a mile and a half to warm up, and a mile to cool down, and single laps in between each 800.
I'm sure Coach could refine my suggestion and offer a pacing idea as well.

Two camps of thought.

Run the 800 then jog 800; or, run 800 and jog the amount of time required to run the 800. In both cases, repeat. I would suggest starting with 2-4 repeats and adding one a week. The goal is to run the 800 hard - not all out - but feeling like 1200 may not be possible. I perfect workout is one where all 800's are run at the same pace (time).

Oh, if asked, like wood8176 I would steer to you the recovery being the same time as the effort.

Good stuff!

 

[cewait]

Oddball question: are the drop bags for W&D the kind that have backpack-like strings for easy toting during the post-race party? Or are they just the drawstring at the top kind?

They are clear plastic bags with a sling style draw string. Not sure if that makes sense, but it draws closed at the top and those draw strings loop down to one corner at the bottom of the bag. Saying another way, it does not have two sets of straps (strings) like a back pack; only one like a sling pack.

 

[peachygreen]

I have a small backpack that that folds into itself into a pack about 4"x6". Would it be okay tip throw into my bag check bag make it easy to carry stuff to the after party?

Do most people change after they are some our wear their running clothes all night?

I think at a minimum I need another pair of shoes. My feet are always soaked after a long run. (So are my clothes but that is nowhere Near as annoying)