The Official 2013 Wine and Dine Half Marathon Thread

[steph0808]

2) Now, regarding my running. So after the Disneyland half in September 2012 I had some pains in my left calf. So I bought some leg compression thingys to wear. Then I look a took about 6 months off of any serious running and have just gotten back into training about 4 weeks ago. (Would have earlier but I was preggo and then there were complications and then I had surgery). I can admit to having gained some weight (like from my 8 to now a 10). OK so my point: I've been wearing the compression thingys but I think they are counter-productive because BOTH my calves, shins and ankles start to hurt during the run and its not getting better. I also have some knee/ankle problems spawning from teenage injuries. Does anyone have any thoughts? Suggestions? I mean aside from the obvious "stop wearing the compression thingys", I'd still like to support myself down there. Maybe I could continue to wear the compression thingys but ice myself before or after the run? Or maybe take a preventative Advil? Just looking for others advice/experience before I start experimenting on myself.

- Carey

How old are your shoes? Perhaps the problem is not the compression sleeves, it is that your shoes are wearing down, causing the pain.

I am always really sore and my legs hurt when my shoes get old (I never realize it for a week or two though, I always think it is something else!).

 

[OregonGirl]

Steph, I appreciate the thought. That my very well be the case. Current shoes are easily a year old and starting to feel.... "not as comfy".

 

[Rose&Mike]

Steph, I appreciate the thought. That my very well be the case. Current shoes are easily a year old and starting to feel.... "not as comfy".

I would check the shoes. I would not take the preventative advil without a doctor ok'ing it. I know a lot of people do, but there is a lot of controversy surrounding athletes and vitamin "i" (ibuprofen). It is always possible, based on your history that a sports doctor might think it is ok, but I would definitely make sure first.

You could also look into taping. I had to tape my right ankle on every run for over 6 months after a sprain left me with a lot of tendon issues. There are ways to tape for all kinds of injuries. Some work, some maybe not so much. But it is a relatively inexpensive thing to try.

Good luck!

 

[wood8176]

And sometimes I just want to find the source of that little voice and choke the crap out of it!
Kimberley

I'll second that! Hilarious!

 

[schoonersky]

Help! Have to book my dining reservations Saturday. What time can you do that using the Internet? I don't expect to have a problem, and I'm flexible anyway, but do want to get The Yachtsman!

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[zgirls]

Steph, I appreciate the thought. That my very well be the case. Current shoes are easily a year old and starting to feel.... "not as comfy".

Shoes over a year old???? Do you only wear them for running? It's not the age of the shoe, it is the mileage you put on the shoe. I rotate shoes and retire them from the running rotation between 300-400 miles. My monthly averages - low month 30 - 40 miles a month, high months - 100 - 115 miles a month, normal 50-60 a month.

So I go thru about 3 pair of shoes a year. While training for the ironman I went through a pair a month.

I tried compression socks, didn't like it during run, but after was great. So any 10+ mile run I would put them on for half a day. I feel it helps with recovery.

 

[Ariel484]

Carey (OregonGirl): I agree with the PP that suggest getting new shows. As was already said here, a good pair should last you at least 300-400 miles. I am a giant nerd and am so anal about my shoes that I keep track of the mileage in a Google Doc...when I get up to 300 miles I start to pay closer attention to how things feel, and if things start to go south I dump my current pair (I scored some discounted pairs of my current shoes on RunningWarehouse.com in March so I have some spares all ready to go ).

I'd also suggest possibly getting re-fitted at your local running store. Since you're getting started up again after 6 months off you may find that your current model/setup doesn't *fit* (see what I did there? ) your needs anymore. I had that happen to me earlier this year - I had been using orthodics in my shoes for about 4 years and started getting some weird foot pain after losing some weight. I went to my running store and they suggested ditching the orthodics, and voila! No pain.

 

[Figment1990]

So with all this talk about shoes.... I have a new question for you all. I found, through trial and error, a pair that seems to fit me well and I do run "pain free" in the for a while when I first get them! But then they start wearing down and inevitably I need a new pair. I know this is probably because they aren't the highest end model, but I've tried SO many shoes and I hate the whole process. My problem is that my right foot has a fairly flat arch, and I over pronate much more on that foot than on my left foot. I like a stability shoe for my right foot or I end up with shin splints. But my left foot doesn't overpronate that much at all and when I get a shoe that has a huge arch plate or whatever it's called, it hurts my left foot in the arch.

Any advice on the subject of shoes for people with different needs for different feet? Is this something an insert might help with?

 

[peachygreen]

I don't know if this will make sense, but it took me about 2 years and one really nasty marathon in January to realize, you can have trained well, be ready to go, and things can still go wrong. That doesn't mean you are under trained, just that it wasn't your day.

I can so relate to this statement.

My last marathon was the NYC marathon in 2007. I had trained with a goal of 5:15 as my stretch goal, 5:30 as my realistic goal.
Well that did not happen at all. I woke up at 2am the morning of the race with serious stomach issues and spent the rest of the night in the hotel bathroom. I finally gave up and caught a cab to the NYC library to take the bus to Staten Island. Not feeling well and spending the next 5 hours I think in the cold outside did not help anything at all. My stomach was still upset and I was cold and shivering and not able to keep food down. A smart person would have called it quits right then and not started the race. I am not that smart.

The race finally started and I started off with a good pace and my 5:15 seemed in reach for the first 6 miles. Then I took my first swig of gatorade and eveyrthing went downhill from there. I got stomach cramps and chills and had a really hard time running any more. At the half way mark I wanted to quit. My 5:30 goal was out the window at that point and the 6hr mark was in jeopardy. At mile 18 I literally sat down on the curb and started to cry. I was so close to quitting. I was headed away from the finish line and into the Bronx and I was just done. To this day I don't know how I kept myself going. Eventually we made it to the Bronx and from there it was closer to keep going forward so I did.

I finished that race in 6hrs and 18 minutes (chip time not gun time). It was definately not the race I trained for or the race I wanted to run. Some day I will run another marathon because I have to get the taste of that race out of my mouth.

It has taken me a long time to realize that I did not fail but against tremendous odds I persevered and finished what I started when many would have quit.

So this half marathon is my first major step to getting back there again. I regirstered today so there is no looking back. I have 6 months to get from 5k shape to 1/2 marathon shape. I know I can do it.

 

[PlutoBaby]

I can so relate to this statement.

My last marathon was the NYC marathon in 2007. I had trained with a goal of 5:15 as my stretch goal, 5:30 as my realistic goal.
Well that did not happen at all. I woke up at 2am the morning of the race with serious stomach issues and spent the rest of the night in the hotel bathroom. I finally gave up and caught a cab to the NYC library to take the bus to Staten Island. Not feeling well and spending the next 5 hours I think in the cold outside did not help anything at all. My stomach was still upset and I was cold and shivering and not able to keep food down. A smart person would have called it quits right then and not started the race. I am not that smart.

The race finally started and I started off with a good pace and my 5:15 seemed in reach for the first 6 miles. Then I took my first swig of gatorade and eveyrthing went downhill from there. I got stomach cramps and chills and had a really hard time running any more. At the half way mark I wanted to quit. My 5:30 goal was out the window at that point and the 6hr mark was in jeopardy. At mile 18 I literally sat down on the curb and started to cry. I was so close to quitting. I was headed away from the finish line and into the Bronx and I was just done. To this day I don't know how I kept myself going. Eventually we made it to the Bronx and from there it was closer to keep going forward so I did.

I finished that race in 6hrs and 18 minutes (chip time not gun time). It was definately not the race I trained for or the race I wanted to run. Some day I will run another marathon because I have to get the taste of that race out of my mouth.

It has taken me a long time to realize that I did not fail but against tremendous odds I persevered and finished what I started when many would have quit.

So this half marathon is my first major step to getting back there again. I regirstered today so there is no looking back. I have 6 months to get from 5k shape to 1/2 marathon shape. I know I can do it.

Wow, I got a bit reading that story! I'd like to know how you did it: other runners, simple perserverance, etc???

 

[peachygreen]

Wow, I got a bit reading that story! I'd like to know how you did it: other runners, simple perserverance, etc???

A lot of little things.

A complete stranger came up to me at mile 18 to help me out and gave me a banana.

My sister talked me through a few miles on the phone and ran most of the last 3 miles in central park with me. My sister was awesome!

A lot of internal dialagues with a lot of you can do this, you've trained for this, don't quit etc. I also tricked myself a lot. I would tell myself If you run across this bridge you can decide to quit and just cut across 3 blocks to the end and then I'd get across the bridge and tell myself your daughter is one block that way go see her and get a snack. Once I made the turn I'd made the turn so I kept pushing. Once I made it to the Bronx there was no quit because it was closer to the finish line then to quit. (Deep down I knew I could get a ride or something but I didn't let myself think that part).

Other runners were great. There was this guy running with a lighthouse on his head. I did not want to get beat by Larry the Lighthouse so that was motivation to me.

 

[peachygreen]

Oh and I did offically register today for the wine and dine half marathon! So I am doing this, there is no turning back now!

 

[dlbwright]

What an amazing story. I am worried about running in the rain let alone a full marathon with a stomach virus! Amazing story. So glad you are running with us.

 

[Ariel484]

I can so relate to this statement.

My last marathon was the NYC marathon in 2007. I had trained with a goal of 5:15 as my stretch goal, 5:30 as my realistic goal.
Well that did not happen at all. I woke up at 2am the morning of the race with serious stomach issues and spent the rest of the night in the hotel bathroom. I finally gave up and caught a cab to the NYC library to take the bus to Staten Island. Not feeling well and spending the next 5 hours I think in the cold outside did not help anything at all. My stomach was still upset and I was cold and shivering and not able to keep food down. A smart person would have called it quits right then and not started the race. I am not that smart.

The race finally started and I started off with a good pace and my 5:15 seemed in reach for the first 6 miles. Then I took my first swig of gatorade and eveyrthing went downhill from there. I got stomach cramps and chills and had a really hard time running any more. At the half way mark I wanted to quit. My 5:30 goal was out the window at that point and the 6hr mark was in jeopardy. At mile 18 I literally sat down on the curb and started to cry. I was so close to quitting. I was headed away from the finish line and into the Bronx and I was just done. To this day I don't know how I kept myself going. Eventually we made it to the Bronx and from there it was closer to keep going forward so I did.

I finished that race in 6hrs and 18 minutes (chip time not gun time). It was definately not the race I trained for or the race I wanted to run. Some day I will run another marathon because I have to get the taste of that race out of my mouth.

It has taken me a long time to realize that I did not fail but against tremendous odds I persevered and finished what I started when many would have quit.

So this half marathon is my first major step to getting back there again. I regirstered today so there is no looking back. I have 6 months to get from 5k shape to 1/2 marathon shape. I know I can do it.

You poor thing...that is quite a story. Mental toughness is so important in these long races, and clearly you are TOUGH! I am sure you will have no problem getting in to shape for this race.

 

[peachygreen]

OK - so I will be at Disney from Friday Nov 8th around 1pm until Monday morning (really early 6am type flight). This is a solo trip and I am leaving the kids and husband at home for the race.

On Friday night - which would you do - MVMCP (from 4-midnight) for $61.77 (AP Discount) or the Wine and Dine Pre Race Taste at Lights Motor Action from 6-8:30 for $85 (including tax)?

 

[OregonGirl]

Kristie -

First, I think your story is great and proves that with some stubborn determination we can really accomplish more than we typically give ourselves credit for. And total kudos for finishing under those circumstances. I, too, trick myself when I am ready to quit. I look at some upcoming object and say "just run to that thing", and then when I get there I say "ok, now just run to that new thing," and it works wonders. Of course, sometimes I allow myself to walk once I've reach 'that thing', but at least it keeps me moving.

Regarding which party - I forgot all about the pre-race. I plan on doing MVMCP with my DH. If I was going solo I might consider the pre race party so that I could mingle with other runners, or I might do MVMCP to enjoy the rides and the fireworks without the crowds. It's a tough call, but I think ultimately MVMCP trumps for me.

Regarding the shoe discussion - Yes, I ONLY wear these particular shoes for running. However they are definitely past 300 miles of use and it is time to replace them. I am an ASICS fan and I am considering the Gel 14 which is pretty close to what I currently run in. They are spendy but very cushy and have always provided great support. Except recently.


I am going to give the KT tape for shins a try before my run today. And forgo the compression socks for awhile. The more I think about it the more I think the pain feels like it did after the Disneyland Half and I did KT tape then and it was great, so why I am stumbling to give that another go is beyond me.

Figment - I would say that inserts might be your best bet. It's just a guess but it makes sense.

I'll be in Disney in exactly 6 months! It's seems so far away and yet so close. As in: Vacation is still 6 months away, wah! , and then Half marathon is only 6 months away, ack!

- Carey

 

[Suited Deuces]

94%

 

[PlutoBaby]

Oh and I did offically register today for the wine and dine half marathon! So I am doing this, there is no turning back now!

Yippee!!!!!

 

[Tropical Wilds]

We're now official... We're registered for the Wine and Dine half marathon!

Soooo... My first half marathon! Or running event of any kind! I'm excited, and panicking. LOL!

 

[PlutoBaby]

We're now official... We're registered for the Wine and Dine half marathon!

Soooo... My first half marathon! Or running event of any kind! I'm excited, and panicking. LOL!

and YIPPEE!!!

For those of you who may follow Pam and Christine's adventures on the We Run Disney blog, Christine gave in and will be joining us in November. Yippee!!!