The nutters in CA who chained up 13 kids...

[cabanafrau]

This is what I was referring to:

David, 57, and Louise Turpin, 49, were raised in the Pentecostal faith but were not affiliated with any California congregation, Betty Turpin said: “They were raised in church. We were raised in church. …

“I feel they were model Christians. It’s hard to believe all of this. Over the years, (only) the Lord knows what happened. …

“I’m not just a bragging parent. We raised two sons. They never gave us any problem, never got on drugs,” Betty Turpin said. “(We) kept them in church. We never had to make them go to church.”

And:

One of Louise Turpin’s sisters said this week that some family members were prevented from seeing the children. Betty Turpin said that was not true: “(The sister) doesn’t like Louise.”

What did happen on Muir Woods Road?

“That’s a good question,” Betty Turpin said. “We always felt they were in good hands before. We don’t know what happened.”


That's what I referenced when I said about her defending her son.

Only did a quick look and didn't come across that. Instead I came across the same things I saw yesterday, which was what made me wonder about her telling how they walked in a line while visiting Disney. Since she wasn't there it had to have been related to her if we're to believe she made the comment to the press. That's a weird thing to include when telling grandparents about a family visit to Disney. There's lots of details about a vacation I'd share before logistics of walking from point A to point B. It's especially odd when you consider we're also told by relatives that the children were incredibly well-behaved and we know that many of the children are well past the age of needing "minding" when out in public. Why would the logistics of walking around Disney be notable for the parents to relate to the grandparents? Why didn't the grandparents find it odd at the time? Incredibly they still seem to find it supporting evidence of good parenting, even when confronted with the revelation of actual living conditions.

 

[robinb]

This is what I was referring to:

David, 57, and Louise Turpin, 49, were raised in the Pentecostal faith but were not affiliated with any California congregation, Betty Turpin said: “They were raised in church. We were raised in church. …

“I feel they were model Christians. It’s hard to believe all of this. Over the years, (only) the Lord knows what happened. …

“I’m not just a bragging parent. We raised two sons. They never gave us any problem, never got on drugs,” Betty Turpin said. “(We) kept them in church. We never had to make them go to church.”

And:

One of Louise Turpin’s sisters said this week that some family members were prevented from seeing the children. Betty Turpin said that was not true: “(The sister) doesn’t like Louise.”

What did happen on Muir Woods Road?

“That’s a good question,” Betty Turpin said. “We always felt they were in good hands before. We don’t know what happened.”


That's what I referenced when I said about her defending her son.

More like covering her own butt. She raised "model Christians" and if David went wrong, "(only) the Lord knows what happened".

 

[Kellykins1218]

especially given the religion they claimed to subscribe to---it was very noticiable and jumped out at me too

She had some pretty decent cleavage in the Snow White picture, too, but nothing compared to the one where she's on the ground. Sheesh!

 

[MamaBelle4]

Only did a quick look and didn't come across that. Instead I came across the same things I saw yesterday, which was what made me wonder about her telling how they walked in a line while visiting Disney. Since she wasn't there it had to have been related to her if we're to believe she made the comment to the press. That's a weird thing to include when telling grandparents about a family visit to Disney. There's lots of details about a vacation I'd share before logistics of walking from point A to point B. It's especially odd when you consider we're also told by relatives that the children were incredibly well-behaved and we know that many of the children are well past the age of needing "minding" when out in public. Why would the logistics of walking around Disney be notable for the parents to relate to the grandparents? Why didn't the grandparents find it odd at the time? Incredibly they still seem to find it supporting evidence of good parenting, even when confronted with the revelation of actual living conditions.

I believe the article I pulled that from said that they went along to Disneyland. Can I post a link to a news article? I'll try.

 

[MamaBelle4]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.me...e-in-perris-they-are-the-sweetest-family/amp/

 

[mi*vida*loca]

I got a CNN alert saying the children had been planning the escape for two years.

 

[monsterkitty]

Just saw this article on CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/18/us/turpin-family-investigation/index.html

"Both were charged with 12 counts of torture, he said. David Turpin, he said, also was charged with a lewd act on a child by force or fear of duress."

I really hope that this doesn't mean what I think it means.

 

[Mizzoufan]

It's possible that when the grandparents saw the kids 6 years ago the kids were okay I will giver her a pass she might not have known what was going on at home.

 

[MamaBelle4]

I got a CNN alert saying the children had been planning the escape for two years.

Just read the same from BBC.

 

[Kellykins1218]

“They are the sweetest family,” said Turpin, 81, of Princeton, W.Va. “They were just like any ordinary family. And they had such good relationships. I’m not just saying this stuff. These kids, we were amazed. They were ‘sweetie’ this and ‘sweetie’ that to each other."

12 kids calling each other sweetie and they didn't see anything odd?

 

[lifesavacation]

This story makes me sick to my stomach.

The grandparents had to have known. They knew the ages of the children. They would have known how underdeveloped they looked for their age and the fact that none of them left the house as adults or did normal adult things.

And it doesn't surprise me that the mom acted perplexed when the police came. To acknowledge it would be saying out loud that she's a monster or sick or both.

Those poor children.

 

[MamaBelle4]

It's possible that when the grandparents saw the kids 6 years ago the kids were okay I will giver her a pass she might not have known what was going on at home.

Is it possible, though? The way their growth is stunted and the ones who are developmentally behind.

 

[erin1715]

I just read this article too that mentioned the girl's plan for her escape for two years, along with the children sleeping all day and being up all night, beatings, etc. This is disturbing on so many levels. Those poor children. These people are disgusting monsters.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/1...-life-in-prison-on-torture-abuse-charges.html

 

[wenrob]

I got a CNN alert saying the children had been planning the escape for two years.

I was wondering if that’s why some of them were shackled, maybe a previous attempt to escape.

 

[NHdisneylover]

I was wondering if that’s why some of them were shackled, maybe a previous attempt to escape.

The police conferenced talked about it being some kin of punishment---started out as ropes but after one escaped ropes the shackles and chains were brought in.

It's all so horrorible

 

[Mizzoufan]

Is it possible, though? The way their growth is stunted and the ones who are developmentally behind.

I guess it depends on how developmentally behind they are. I dunno I just would hate to think the grandparents let this happen to their grandbabies.

 

[robinb]

It's possible that when the grandparents saw the kids 6 years ago the kids were okay I will giver her a pass she might not have known what was going on at home.

I agree somewhat. She saw them on vacation at Disneyland and not in their home. The extreme thinness of the kids (as shown in the DL photos) should still have started some alarm bells in their minds.

 

[morgan98]

The grandparents saw what they wanted to see in my opinion. Not to sound harsh, but you can tell in a couple of the photos (where the faces were not blurred) that a few of the children probably did have cognitive issues, or that something did not seem quite right. Between that, the fact they were obviously thin and some of the children were adults but looked liked "tweens" all add up to plenty of evidence that things were not right.

 

[AndreaDM]

The article posted above mentioned they were not allowed to have toys despite many being found in the home, unopened, in the original packaging. I'm picturing Disney collectibles for some reason. Someone, I'm guessing the mother, had an obsession with Disney. Maybe a Peter Pan syndrome too...never let the kids grow up.

 

[gotomu212]

I have the hardest time understanding how they were able to go to Vegas and Disneyland. One of the linked articles said some of the kids didn’t know what a police officer was and one said they froze when a neighbor tried to talk to them...but Disney can be absolutely overwhelming for even neurotypicsl kids who are raised in normal situations. I can’t imagine how 12 kids, some with cognitive issues, that are chained to beds for weeks and only shower once a year we’re able to walk around and ride attractions without absolutely melting down. They should have been shying away from other people and afraid of contact, but you are crammed into lines with strangers and I’m sure people made friendly comments about the size of their family.

And why weren’t the parents petrified that one of the kids would tell another adult that they were chained up at home or hadn’t eaten. Especially the little ones or cognitively impaired kids. You can’t control what they say and it would be so easy for one of them to blurt something out.

It seems so incredibly off that they are smiling in Vegas and Disney without any outward, even subconscious body language, sign that they were being tortured. Am I the only one confused by that?