The NEW Official November 2010 Countdown & Planning Thread ~ Come join us! (Part 2)

48 pages, are you kidding me?!??!?!?!?! :surfweb: I'm SO outta the loop! :rotfl2: Life is crazy-busy right now, so I don't suppose I'll be on here a whole lot before our trip. BUT I did empty out my PM box a bit, so I can accept Turkey head orders again :rotfl:

Also---has anyone seen any good flight deals around 11/18? DH JUST said tonight, "Wonder if we should just fly since it's so hectic to drive & might not cost tooooo much more." Hmmmmmm.....as if I'm not getting stressed out enough about the upcoming trip?!?!?! :rolleyes1

I was going to PM you today!! I haven't seen you and wondered where you were!!! I am sorry for you about the mouse!! I had a teeny tiny one in my sink in the kitchen last year and I begged Mike to come home and get it....of course, he did:hug:....but I was freaked out for the rest of the day.....weiiiird seeing that little thing in your HOUSE!... Yes..just go to continental and take whatever flight is available!!! YOU MUST FLY!! We can't drive from here girl!! It's tooooo far!!!!
Well...I got Mike and the kids last night to sit down and look over our plans. I usually plan everything and they are happy with that!! They tell me some must-dos and I plan it in...but for some reason, this year, I can't get it just like I want it.Anyway, I need to switch two ADRs around and replan one morning..hopefully this will be the END of being undecisive. Geez...I don't know what's going on this time. I have NEVER had this much trouble!! I know for sure that I want to do the MSEP on the Wed night it's available...I might try to squeeze it in on the Sat night before we leave too...but I am afraid it's gonna be reeeeeaaally busy at MK that Sat...with more people coming in for Thanksgiving week...so Wed might be the best bet.
They did all agree to skip AK this time. I had already figured that in the plan, but one of the kids said they wanted to go, but last night DH was like :sad2: uhhh no.. don't even want to go over there again this time. Which is fine with me... I might do it every other trip,and we did go the last few times. I know some people just love it, but we don't do enough there to warrant the travel time.Especially when we have other things we want to fit in....I hate that I am not gonna see Wendy's daughter...maybe she will be on a day off and I can see her somewhere else!!!
Hopefully after I get things nailed down today, I will have time to see what toiletries and snax I need to get. I too, feel very unorganized this year.
DS11 has the sinus stuff now. Fever, nose is crazy--stopped up & runny!! How does that happen anyway?!! LOL..his little nose is red and chapped already--this just started yesterday..he's uncomfortable and worn out. So...I will be nursing him along for school today!! I think we won't get too much done!!:laughing: But...our weather is wonderful!So..we can hang around on the porch finally to do :teacher: !!!!!
I am so pumped reading all of your countdown #s and feeling all of the excitement!!!! Waiting on ME papers...:rolleyes1
 
We are at 36 days until our 25th anniversary trip! I cannot wait.:cool1::cool1:
 
We leave 6 weeks from today!!!

I was just able to book a regualr dinner at WCC this morning. I had booked for Thanksgiving dinner but we just want the regular menu and not pay more for the holiday either so I have been trying to get an ADR for earlier in the week. Well I got it this morning, so I am excited about that. Usually I make our ADRs at 180 days and not touch them at all, but this time paying OOP for our few TS meals are making me be more picky. :confused: So we will decide for Thanksgiving dinner when we get tehre, if we feel like going out we will go to WPE and if not we will walk over to ASMu and have dinner there and watch the movie at the pool.

We had a mouse in the house yesterday.:eek: I have a huge fear of mice (though everyone reminds me Mickey and Minnie are mice, they don't count!) So I spent the day baracaded in my bedroom. I got a lot done though including lots of packing (out of season stuff is stored in our room.) I got all the matching Disney shirts pulled out and went though the shorts for the kids to see what fits who. Thankfully DH caught the mouse so I can relax at least a little bit (hoping he had no friends.) :scared1:
Hi! Not sure if you realize this, but the hoiday surcharges at restaurants don't apply just on the actual holiday, but several days surrounding it. I found this out the hard way at Thaknsgiving last year! I am not sure if you were reffering to a special meal at WCC or the normal "holiday surcharge" like they do at character meals, ect. That upcahrge applied wed- sun of thanksgiving week last year at least.
 

I am so excited we are only 27 days away. :cheer2::cheer2: Still waiting for our travel docs. Yesterday, I found out my professor is not my professor anymore, due to health reasons. So, I got a new professor and now I have another paper due, about 1 week after coming home :sad2: This new paper is about creating some kind of art project and then writing a paper about it. I don't know about you, but I do not have any artistic ability in me. I ask her if I could draw a cartoon character and told her about the Donald Duck that I drew last year at the Animation Studios & she said yes. I am so happy,:thumbsup2 so when we go to HS, we are going to be drawing a Disney character and when I get home, I'll write my report.

Also, yesterday I took my DS to the orthodontist and she said that in 1 month, he can get his expander out. So, I had to get my kids away from the counter and book the appointment the day before we leave. He is very excited and should be getting his 8 braces off before Christmas :yay: The problem that I have now, is I have class that day until 10:40 am, then I have to pick up my dog and drive her to my sister's house, who is 1 hr & 15 mins away, then drive to my DS school and pick him up at 1:45 pm for his 2 pm appt, then go to work at 3 pm and work until 9 pm. :scared1: Oh, I forgot to mention that I have to pack and that I have a midterm and a paper due the Thursday before we leave. :eek::eek:

Am I insane or what???? :confused: Thanks for listening to me vent. :worship:

For anyone looking for EarPlanes (adult size), I just bought them at Walmart for under $4.00.
 
I was eating dinner last night with my family. I said to them "Know what we'll be doing 5 weeks from RIGHT NOW? Waiting for our table at Coral Reef."

Of course, I'm off with Daylight Savings Time ending, but the sentiment is the same. ;)
 
OMGoodness! I'm so excited! After WEEKS of checking every day, sometimes twice, I FINALLY got an ADR for Chef Mickey's! :woohoo: The kids were sooo disappointed that we weren't eating there... :sad2: But now I think I'm going to surprise them!!! :dance3:
 
OMGoodness! I'm so excited! After WEEKS of checking every day, sometimes twice, I FINALLY got an ADR for Chef Mickey's! :woohoo: The kids were sooo disappointed that we weren't eating there... :sad2: But now I think I'm going to surprise them!!! :dance3:

That is awesome! :yay: My kids love Chef Mickey's, but we are not eating there this trip. Decided to try Donald's Safari Breakfast instead.
 
OMGoodness! I'm so excited! After WEEKS of checking every day, sometimes twice, I FINALLY got an ADR for Chef Mickey's! :woohoo: The kids were sooo disappointed that we weren't eating there... :sad2: But now I think I'm going to surprise them!!! :dance3:
that is awesome! I have managed to sang just about everything we wanted by stalking for cancellations. We booked 3 1/2 months out and I was able to get some ADRS at that point, but not much of what I wanted. I have gotten Le Cellier, Ohana, Coral Reef, and a Brown Derby Fantasmic package by checking/calling multiple times a day. The only two things I haven't gotten are an earlier BBB appointment (we have one at 12:25) or CRT. I am really happy with what i have been able to get though, and if I cannot get these 2 it won't be the end of the world!
 
November travelers! :woohoo:



grace&phillipsmom ~ Oct 25-Nov 3 ?
raykay ~ Oct 25-Nov 5 POFQ
disneysuncat ~ Oct 28-Nov 8 POFQ
hrt2hrtmomdeb ~ Oct 28-Nov 20 BC/AKL/GF/Poly
PunttinOnes ~ Oct 29-Nov 2 CBR
Disneymom1218 ~ Oct 30-Nov 5 POP
ILVPOOH ~ Oct 30-Nov 5 CBR
dahall ~ Oct 30-Nov 5 BLT
Samshane ~ Oct 30-Nov 6 ?
superwy ~ Oct 30-Nov 6 BC
Amirah95 ~ Oct 30-Nov 6 ?
JLVermillion ~ Oct 30-Nov 6 BCV
mom2em1214 ~ Oct 30-Nov 6 ?
LisaCat Oct 30-Nov 6 Bonnet Creek
stefplus3 ~ Oct 30-Nov 7 ?
Amosser ~ Oct 30-Nov 7 Poly
Sharig5576 ~ Oct 30-Nov 8 POP
MomToAp1699 ~ Oct 30-Nov 8 POP
Shopn24seven ~ Oct 31-Nov 6 CR
Cee ~ Oct 31-Nov 7 VWL
TheBunnymooners ~ Nov ? POR
Hillbeans ~ Nov 1-6 AKV/BLT
jmc318 ~ Nov 1-7 BLT
Kennywife ~ Nov 1-7 CBR/Poly
canopynut66 ~ Nov 1-11 POP
jdb1232 ~ Nov 2-7 VWL
CrazyaboutGoofy ~ Nov 2-9 POR
pwdebbie ~ Nov 2-12 POFQ
mollybug2 ~ Nov 3-8 Bonnet Creek
binab ~ Nov 3-9 POP
tlramr14 ~ Nov 3-10 ?
nep84 ~ Nov 3-13 POP
lakepaige ~ Nov 3-14 CBR
SFRN97 ~ Nov 3-14 POFQ/CBR
antree ~ Nov 4-11 OKW
kazlac ~ Nov 4-13 FW
moxiecola ~ Nov 4-14 Windsor Hills
MinnieMe67 ~ Nov 4-14 Poly/BCV
ZoeD ~ Nov 4-18 CBR
two*little*birds ~ Nov 4-18 Windsor Palms
ksueboo ~ Nov 5-12 Windsor Hills
MAGGIED ~ Nov 5-12 POFQ
DisneyBoundinDec ~ Nov 5-13 Poly
lpoeppelman ~ Nov 5-13 BC
ursula28 ~ Nov 5-14 BCV
MsSpinShady ~ Nov 5-14 POFQ
monica22535 ~ Nov 5-16 BC
MusiqChic99 ~ Nov 6-12 WL
garrsmom ~ Nov 6-13 CBR
VikingInMouseEars ~ Nov 6-13 POP
Tinkerbell53 ~ Nov 6-13 Windsor Hills
disneymama2girls ~ Nov 6-13 VWL
Trackey79 ~ Nov 6-13 FW
Lisa0602 ~ Nov 6-13 VWL
triciari ~ Nov 6-13 AKV
Melani ~ Nov 6 - 13 BWV/BLT
sraiford ~ Nov 6-13 Windsor Hills
Momof2Disneyboys ~ Nov 6-14 BWI
ntheory ~ Nov 6-14 Poly
kerickson ~ Nov 6-14 Dolphin/BLT/Wonder
samshane ~ Nov 6-14 SOG
Deesknee ~ Nov 6-15 ?
Sebastian the crab ~ Nov 6-19 BLT
LuvMyEAR ~ Nov 6-20 Windsor Hills
LyndenP ~ Nov 6-22 ?
ramsfootball92 ~ Nov 7-10 OKW
mbonomo ~ Nov 7-10 ?
Skysdad ~ Nov 7-10 AKL
rannico ~ Nov 7-11 CBR
MomofSixinSC ~ Nov 7-11 FW
fostrmom2mny ~ Nov 7-11 ASMu
JackandSally79 ~ Nov 7-12 BLT
WAHkoMom ~ Nov 7-13 BWV
cheltoday ~ Nov 7-13 ASMo
jraymond503 ~ Nov 7-13 ASMo
pggirl ~ Nov 7-13 POR
lizzyb5280 ~ Nov 7-13 CBR
magpomom ~ Nov 7-13 AKL
THESCHULTZFIVE ~ Nov 7-13 OKW
tydad ~ Nov 7-13 VWL
Andrea73 ~ Nov 7-14 POP
saraalison ~ Nov 7-14 Sheraton Vistana
johng800 ~ Nov 7-14 ?
vllygrrl ~ Nov 7-14 AKL
bobbiekins ~ Nov 7-14 ?
jstarcze ~ Nov 8-12 BLT
sjs314 ~ Nov 8-13 AKL
KC78 ~ Nov 8-16 OKW
ollyg ~ Nov 9-16 POP
NickandNorah ~ Nov 9-16 AKV
Pills ~ Nov 9-16 WL
DebbyLof428 ~ Nov 9-17 BC/Poly
ronacele@earthlink.n ~ Nov 9-17 BLT
Hmom ~ Nov 9-18 AKV
lpereira ~ Nov 9-18 offsite/CR
cjlvsccm ~ Nov 10-14 POFQ
diamondpixienc ~ Nov 10-15 BLT
adtillma1 ~ Nov 10-15 POP
LuvLuvLuv ~ Nov 10-16 WL
RobinHoodGirl ~ Nov 10-16 POP
VictoriaT ~ Nov 10-16 POFQ
northcoast momma ~ Nov 10-17 THV
Breezysmom ~ Nov 10-17 Poly
gbsg1011 ~ Nov 10-17 AKV
dlawallace ~ Nov 10-18 ?
discott ~ Nov 10-19 AKV
ChiMom ~ Nov 10-19 FW
Hugpug ~ Nov 10-20 POP/POR
Melodius ~ Nov 10-23 GF
Tuffcookie ~ Nov 11-14 Swan
JohnsonsRUs ~ Nov 11-16 POP
gaugerla ~ Nov 11-16 VWL
98cpTyphoonGuard ~ Nov 11-16 POP
merrymouse1 ~ Nov 11-17 POR
Twoboysnmygirl ~ Nov 11-18 ASMu
tree320 ~ Nov 11-19 Wonder/BLT
IggyLans ~ Nov 11-20 BCV
Disneymommy2006 ~ Nov 11-20 POP
Vikki19 ~ Nov 11-20 AKV
disneymom88 ~ Nov 12-14 ASMu
Tammy296 ~ Nov 12-16 POR
scrappinmom ~ Nov 12-17 POP
alyssa810 ~ Nov 12-17 OKW
mickeymyfavorite Nov 12-17 CBR
TheDisneyBunch ~ Nov 12-21 POR/BWV/AKV
pamelasu1 ~ Nov 12-19 POP
MODisneyfan ~ Nov 12-20 POP
baby1disney ~ Nov 12-20 THV
Eponine1 ~ Nov 12-20 Poly
MOUSELOVER171 ~ Nov 12-20 AKV
Nermel9 ~ Nov 12-20 POR
SnowWhite1 ~ Nov 12-20 Poly
Heidi Loves Disney ~ Nov 12-21 BLT
MickeyNicki ~ Nov 12-21 CBR
dspade19 ~ Nov 12-21 BWV
vettegirl ~ Nov 13-18 AKL/GF
dawnmommy ~ Nov 13-19 Poly
Rootskate ~ Nov 13-19 AKL
magalex ~ Nov 13-19 ?
MOM POPPINS ~ Nov 13-19 POR
nmmom95 ~ Nov 13-20 BLT
Smhall ~ Nov 13-20 BCV
GlennI ~ Nov 13-20 ?
monorail girl ~ Nov 13-20 Poly
ethansmommy ~ Nov 13-20 VWL
sebastian75_99 ~ Nov 13-20 AKV
arbarks ~ Nov 13-20 POR
boys938 ~ Nov 13-20 BC
Evette ~ Nov 13-20 BLT
TinkerKell-ey ~ Nov 13-20 AKV
disneymom727 ~ Nov 13-20 POP
walkdmc ~ Nov 13-20 AKL
scdufek ~ Nov 13-20 AKV
2wins ~ Nov 13-20 Bonnet Creek
SpaceEngTM ~ Nov 13-20 Poly
Disney Mommy 3 ~ Nov 13-21 BC
Buttercup2009 ~ Nov 13-21 GF
dolphindan1 ~ Nov 13-21 Bonnet Creek
ppony ~ Nov 13-21 BLT/AKV
madouceamie ~ Nov 13-21 POR
emt_pinky ~ Nov 13-22 POP
Angela0917 ~ Nov 14-18 OKW
LaniesMom ~ Nov 14-18 Poly
summerlady ~ Nov 14-19 POFQ
Cat0727 ~ Nov 14-19 AKV
anita46 ~ Nov 14-19 BC
mom1browneyedboy ~ Nov 14-20 ?
acwsmom ~ Nov 14-20 POP
shinysparklybubbles ~ Nov 14-20 POP
kjungrl1971 ~ Nov 14-20 POP
barbeml ~ Nov 14-21 Poly
PEANUT1 ~ Nov 14-21 BWV/Swan
DisneyFam09 ~ Nov 14-21 Bonnet Creek
dreweyj ~ Nov 14-21 ?
honeymooner2004 ~ Nov 14-21 POP
DisKimberly ~ Nov 14-25 POR/AKV
Farmersue ~ Nov 15-20 AKL
CajunMomof3 ~ Nov 15-21 BWV
Lindsaygirl27 ~ Nov 15-22 AKL
ericasatx ~ Nov 16-24 POR
YayDisney! ~ Nov 16-25 CBR
lilmissbehaved ~ Nov 17-20 ?
rock*mom ~ Nov 17-23 ?
rmonty02 ~ Nov 17-26 AKV
3boys4me ~ Nov 17-27 CBR
princessallegra ~ Nov 18-21 GF
disneydreamkate ~ Nov 18-21 CBR
rgmills25 ~ Nov 18-24 ASMu
ngvenice ~ Nov 18-24 ASSp
thelittlemermaid ~ Nov 18-25 ASMu
ScrappyRN ~ Nov 18-25 POFQ
pirateofthecarolinas ~ Nov 18-26 GF
weHEARTmickey ~ Nov 18-26 Poly
teslaaunt ~ Nov 18-26 POFQ
stmize ~ Nov 18-27 POR
derrickmom ~ Nov 18-27 ?
lsusoftball37 ~ Nov 18-28 POP
rkrushing4 ~ Nov 18-28 POR
MickeyMomOfThree ~ Nov 18-28 AASp
Flutie05 ~ Nov 19-24 ASMo
Dsnymouse ~ Nov 19-26 BWV
DisneyBarlans ~ Nov 19-27 POR/Poly
jillyb ~ Nov 19-27 POP
princessmom29 ~ Nov 19-27 CBR
BayouMickey ~ Nov 19-28 POR
cindiloveswalt ~ Nov 19-28 SSR
mousescrapper ~ Nov 19-28 POP/BLT
Marshay ~ Nov 20-24 SSR
Blocata ~ Nov 20-24 POP
NOLAdisneymom ~ Nov 20-25 CBR
eyor44 ~ Nov 20-26 BLT
Red81301 ~ Nov 20-27 POFQ
txmommy34 ~ Nov 20-27 ASMu
Px4 ~ Nov 20-27 YC
EliPat ~ Nov 20-27 POP
CelebratingMagic ~ Nov 20-27 ?
eah7 ~ Nov 20-27 YC
pattiteach ~ Nov 20-27 Westgate Resort
OC_stacylace ~ Nov 20-27 AKL
Caitsmama ~ Nov 20-28 POP
BBG-BLT ~ Nov 20-30 BLT
Pumba's Truth ~ Nov 21-24 CSR
adaygaby ~ Nov 21-26 ASSp
philly241 ~ Nov 21-27 BLT
Mindy5767 ~ Nov 21-27 SSR/POP
PrincessDez ~ Nov 21-27 BLT
luvmy2babies ~ Nov 21-27 ?
jpluvsdis ~ Nov 21-28 GF
tatorswife ~ Nov 21-28 CSR
emacek ~ Nov 22-24 SSR
Irishgrl6975 ~ Nov 23-27 WL
Lcaemom ~ Nov 23-Dec 1 WL
Jillinwonderland ~ Nov 24-28 POP/YC
falcon ~ Nov 24-30 OKW
crzy4my2 ~ Nov 24-Dec 2 CBR
jaysonleah ~ Nov 24-Dec 5 Poly
mannpeg729 ~ Nov 25-28 AKL
Cynthiagalye01 ~ Nov 25-Dec 3 POR
MagicMomma Nov 25-Dec 4 ASMo/AKL
BLGuterl ~ Nov 26-30 CBR
SydandPaige'sMom ~ Nov 26-Dec 3 POP
NC State ~ Nov 26-Dec 4 ASMu
Tori0681 ~ Nov 27-Dec 1 POP
niccowboys ~ Nov 27-Dec 2 CSR
KSBelle ~ Nov 27-Dec 3 WL
Skweesha ~ Nov 27-Dec 3 OKW
labdogs41 ~ Nov 27-Dec 3 ?
alexensmom ~ Nov 27-Dec 3 WL
disney pro ~ Nov 27-Dec 4 BC
rekenna ~ Nov 27-Dec 4 POR
valsinnj ~ Nov 27-Dec 5 CSR
Mickey Mom ~ Nov 27-Dec 7 POR
jrasmom ~ Nov 28-Dec 2 POP
SAGE ~ Nov 28-Dec 2 SSR
Kimberly Hill ~ Nov 28-Dec 3 ?
kmrein ~ Nov 28-Dec 3 Poly
momof2cutegirls ~ Nov 28-Dec 4 BWV
grandall ~ Nov 28-Dec 4 WL
MamaJessie ~ Nov 28-Dec 4 POR
Denise M ~ Nov 28-Dec 5 Poly
texasteacher35 ~ Nov 28-Dec 5 ?
Scrappychar ~ Nov 28-Dec 8 ?
ThreeKMom ~ Nov 28-Dec 5 YC
SlightlyGoofy ~ Nov 28-Dec 12 ASSp
tinkerbell48 ~ Nov 28-? CBR
bullet3600 ~ Nov 29-Dec 4 CSR
Nichol&Becker ~ Nov 29-Dec 7 FWC
mickey2minnie1 ~ Nov 30-Dec 5 Poly
RJO ~ Nov 30-Dec 6 CSR
TiggerFan3590 ~ Nov 30-Dec 7 BC
Tinker Tam ~ Nov 30-Dec 8 POP
Susiesnowflake ~ Nov 30-Dec 9 ?
TruBlu ~ December
 
WOW! It took me about an hour to catch up. Been busy with work, scouts, etc.
We booked with our DVC membership. We don't get access to free dining etc, but we get deluxe rooms at no charge and can do that for the next 44 years!
We have actually been back and forth lately about when to buy more points (I think it is going to be soon!)
We are at 43 days today!
 
For one of my kids "disney gifts" for their countdown I ordered notepads for them and they came today. They came out so cute! I will try to post a pic, but they came from artscow and were one of their specials for 1.99 w/ free shipping. My DS12 I put a little pic with him holding 1 of the lizards he caught last year and it says his name and "Expert lizard catcher" under. My DS6 has a pic of him at Jedi training and it says his name and "Jedi in training" under. They look great!
 
WOW! It took me about an hour to catch up. Been busy with work, scouts, etc.
We booked with our DVC membership. We don't get access to free dining etc, but we get deluxe rooms at no charge and can do that for the next 44 years!
We have actually been back and forth lately about when to buy more points (I think it is going to be soon!)
We are at 43 days today!

Where is your home resort? Ours is BCV.
 
Just checking in to say hello! I "volunteered" to be a Daisy Girl Scout Troop Leader (since no one else would! :lmao:) and that's been keeping me busy.

I haven't even had a chance to review schedule and ADRs and park times so I guess whatever we picked we're getting. We're only in the park 3 days so it's not like we have a lot to do anyway.

Has anyone noticed if any of the park times/parades/fireworks or F! changed since about a month ago?

Thanks a whole lot!
 
WOW! It took me about an hour to catch up. Been busy with work, scouts, etc.
We booked with our DVC membership. We don't get access to free dining etc, but we get deluxe rooms at no charge and can do that for the next 44 years!
We have actually been back and forth lately about when to buy more points (I think it is going to be soon!)
We are at 43 days today!

Where is your home resort? Ours is BCV.

We are also booked with our DVC membership. This is our first trip "Home" to BLT. I love DVC, it makes us take a vacation! We are also going to be on our incentive cruise that we got for joining. I love having a kitchen and a washer & dryer!
:cheer2:I just found out a bunch of us our going for another Grand Gathering Jan of 2012!!:banana: There are 3 of us who are DVC members and last time we got 17 of us all booked in 5 rooms at BWV, all with our points. Right now 24of us our going. My one sil is not sure because her 5 yr son has peanut, dairy and egg allergies. I told her it was perfect because we will have kitchens! Still working on her.
 
We are also DVC members - our home resort is BWV and this is our 10th year as members. We love our villa!

I have to put the finishing touches on all my plans this week. I think I'm done, but I need to go through all the tabs on my excel spreadsheet a few more times.
 
Hi! Not sure if you realize this, but the hoiday surcharges at restaurants don't apply just on the actual holiday, but several days surrounding it. I found this out the hard way at Thaknsgiving last year! I am not sure if you were reffering to a special meal at WCC or the normal "holiday surcharge" like they do at character meals, ect. That upcahrge applied wed- sun of thanksgiving week last year at least.

Yes, I do realize that but thank you. We will actually be eating there the Friday before Thanksgiving and it will be the regular meal whcih is what we want. I probably should have said it more clearly, but we are good (for that meal anyway.) :headache:
 












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