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How do people afford to have more than one kid in daycare? I mean, we don't qualify as "low income" but there is not enough surplus in our budget to do daycare for 2 kids.

I think that is a major reason for people switching to having one parent stay at home, because sometimes 1 income goes directly to daycare!
 
How do people afford to have more than one kid in daycare? I mean, we don't qualify as "low income" but there is not enough surplus in our budget to do daycare for 2 kids.

I think that is a major reason for people switching to having one parent stay at home, because sometimes 1 income goes directly to daycare!

That's going to be the basis of my arguement when #2 comes along! And we only pay for 3 days of daycare right now, for one kid! By the time we have two, we probably would have to go to full time care, for 2 kids, plus I'm commuting 2 hours every day, in an SUV....which we're planning to upgrade to a minivan next year....

You do the math! ;-)

If I thought I wouldn't go insane on a daily basis, I would totally do home daycare...
 
Bethany- the cost of daycare is so high out there, but then again- the cost of living there is higher. If I had to pay $10 an hour, well- I only make $11/hour anyway!! :lmao: And, I gotta ask- why don't you drive? I'm being totally nosy, and if you'd rather not say then tell me to shut my yap. ;) :goodvibes

I don't think I could be a SAHM long-term, it's just not me. What I'd like is someone like, ahem, Bethany, to come watch my kid. But not for $10/hour, because I can't afford you. :laughing:

;) I always cut my friends a deal on babysitting rates....too bad it's such a long commute between our houses! :laughing:

I'm used to the "why don't you drive?" question...comes up a lot, especially in CA where everyone is ADDICTED to their cars. When one of my friends couldn't drive for a month because of a new prescription drug she was taking, she was just paralyzed. Didn't know how to get out of her house without her car...but that's another story.

No, I just don't like driving. Actually, I hate it. Totally stresses me out every time, so I finally just said forget it, I'll figure out how to live without this. Some of it is that I'm very short (4'10"), and cars in the US are not designed for us shorties, so I'm always uncomfortable. Some of it is that I get stressed trying to take in and process a lot of info at once, so paying attention to everything on the road takes a lot of energy for me. (also why we're probably only going to have 1 kid - hard enough to keep up with me + Owen + DH, much less adding one more critter into the picture! :laughing: )

Anyway, it's not been too much of an issue since I've mostly lived in places with at least some sort of public transportation and taxi service. There have been a few times when I've lived in rural areas and needed to drive or carpool, but I realized that the stress of driving was enough that I should live in a more urban environment where I can get around without it. :) DMIL really thinks I'm a weirdo because I don't drive (heck, most Californians agree with her! :lmao:), but I think after 5 years she's finally gotten used to it. DH sometimes wishes I would drive, and I've told him that I'll get a license again if it would make him feel better. But he knows I hate it, so he's fine with me not driving. I know how to get around, and in an emergency I'd just call 911 or one of our neighbors - we know 15 families within 4 blocks of our house and over half of them have a SAH-parent. So it works...

Nicole, one of my nephews had something sort of like that with his baby teeth. I don't remember exactly what the issue was, but his dentist did x-rays and discovered that roughly 1/2 of his baby teeth had not formed correctly. It was an extreme case from what I understand, but I guess sometimes one or two teeth don't get shaped right or come in funny, and it isn't an indicator of long term dental health, but just an isolated issue. :confused3 I don't know if that's what's up with Izzy, but it sounds like you're doing the right thing by sending a pic to your dentist.


Hi ladies sorry I've been MIA this week but we leave for WDW next week and of course Noah and I are now both sick. We took him to the doctor on Monday and they said it was just a cold. We'll Tuesday we got the call from daycare and he had a fever so we picked him up. Yesterday we went back to the doctors and saw the one we like at the practice and she looked him over and said he has the beginnings of a double ear infection. Just lovely so now he's on antibiotics. I've got some kindof cold so DH ended up taking yesterday off too since I felt really bad and he stayed with Noah so I could rest. I had to come to work today since I have a project to issue and with me leaving it has to be done today.

Bummer on being sick! :sick: Hope you both get better in time for your trip and your DH doesn't get sick!!


How do people afford to have more than one kid in daycare? I mean, we don't qualify as "low income" but there is not enough surplus in our budget to do daycare for 2 kids.

I think that is a major reason for people switching to having one parent stay at home, because sometimes 1 income goes directly to daycare!

SIL & BIL both have to work because he makes more money, but all their benefits come from her job. Really stinks, because they have 3 kids all in daycare/after school care and it costs them a bundle. I wish they lived closer to us - I'd watch their girls in a heartbeat for less than they are paying the center - but they're almost 3 hours from us in regular traffic (5-6 hrs in rush hour! :scared1: ).


I have to say that I think it's great that everyone is able to make the choices for childcare/SAH-parent that works best for your family! I just hate it when people get pressured into doing something that doesn't fit because everyone around them thinks it's the "best" way. One of my best friends is NOT a SAHM type, but her DH might do it someday if they ever have #2. I nannied for them for their DD, and we used to joke that the logo for my childcare should be "I stay home so you don't have to!" :lmao:


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So I'm really bummed...Owen has been weaning himself from nursing and I don't want him to! :sad1: I have tried everything, talked to friends, our Ped., a lactation consultant...and nothing is working. The kid just isn't interested in nursing anymore. Our ped. says sometimes babies are like that and he might get over it, but he's been getting worse over the last month instead of better. I can get him to nurse for maybe 2 or 3 minutes, but then he just wants to wiggle away and is annoyed that he can't sit up and nurse at the same time. :rolleyes: I called a local breastfeeding helpline, but they just layered on the guilt and told me that a normal baby would be so comforted and soothed by nursing that he wouldn't want to give it up, so clearly I must be stressing my child out and that's why he won't nurse. Seriously, people, I'm really a mostly calm person, and I love breastfeeding him, so I don't think that's it.

I totally miss having him doze off in my arms and getting snuggles from him when he's done. We've had to supplement with formula all along, and now I've had to switch him over to formula bottles for everything. I still try to nurse him, but he always gets wiggly and loses interest. I know that I could pump every few hours to keep my milk supply up and at least give him breast milk for a few bottles each day, but with my childcare job I don't see how that will work. These kids are nosy and need a lot of supervision - I can't just lock myself in a room for 15-20 min a couple times while they are here.

I know he'll be fine on formula, and it's not the end of the world, but I'm sad that he's weaning himself off nursing so soon. :guilty:
 
I am looking into a place called The Goddard School - it isn't even built yet, but I saw the sign. They take kids on a part-time basis, and the website was very informative and sounded like something I would like for her.

We get stuff in the mail from a local Goddard school and I was going to look into it for Alex, but one of the things we got was an offer for $500 off tuition! If they can afford to give $500 off, then it is obviously out of my price range since that is more than I pay each month (Alex only has a sitter 2 days a week).

We noticed that her tooth was coming down kind of narrow and crooked -- almost like it was sawed in half or cracked in half.

Weird, I've never heard of that. Let us know what the dentist says!

I'm already anxious about V going for the first time next week. :sad1: I think she'll be fine, but I'm still freaking out a little. Chances are, she'll get there and play all day, but I feel like I'm dropping her off some place strange with people she doesn't know, and it's breaking my heart.

It's hard the first couple times, but it gets easier each time you drop her off.

So I'm really bummed...Owen has been weaning himself from nursing and I don't want him to! :sad1: I can get him to nurse for maybe 2 or 3 minutes, but then he just wants to wiggle away and is annoyed that he can't sit up and nurse at the same time. :rolleyes:

Aww, sorry Bethany! I was never able to nurse Alex, but he did go through a phase I think around the same age where he stopped lying down to eat a bottle and only ate them sitting up. Never outgrew it either, just keeps getting bigger and more independent! :sad1:
 

Hi Guys.

Quick post -- I have 2 pictures of Izzy's front tooth -- please take a look and give me your thoughts. I am emailing them out to my dentist as well.

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I tried to make them close ups and can't figure out how to do that on photobucket. If I can get closer ups I will post those. If you want a close up emailed to you - PM me!

Thanks
Nicole
 
Bethany - a friend of mine was telling me that around 9 months old, kids go through some kind of nursing strike. Basically, there's too much other stuff for them to pay attention to. She said just keep offering, and if he really puts up a fight, let him go for a while. He'll come back. Good luck!
 
"I stay home so you don't have to!" :lmao:

How funny! :laughing:


So I'm really bummed...Owen has been weaning himself from nursing and I don't want him to! :sad1: I have tried everything, talked to friends, our Ped., a lactation consultant...and nothing is working. The kid just isn't interested in nursing anymore. Our ped. says sometimes babies are like that and he might get over it, but he's been getting worse over the last month instead of better. I can get him to nurse for maybe 2 or 3 minutes, but then he just wants to wiggle away and is annoyed that he can't sit up and nurse at the same time. :rolleyes: I called a local breastfeeding helpline, but they just layered on the guilt and told me that a normal baby would be so comforted and soothed by nursing that he wouldn't want to give it up, so clearly I must be stressing my child out and that's why he won't nurse. Seriously, people, I'm really a mostly calm person, and I love breastfeeding him, so I don't think that's it.

:mad: That is obnoxious and unhelpful. Obviously you've been doing it a while so it's not like you don't know what you're doing.

Babies get more active and more curious and taking time out to eat is a drag. I think he's probably just got more "important" things to do and see. And cuddling with mommy ends up at the bottom of the "fun things to do" list. :sad2:

I totally miss having him doze off in my arms and getting snuggles from him when he's done. We've had to supplement with formula all along, and now I've had to switch him over to formula bottles for everything. I still try to nurse him, but he always gets wiggly and loses interest. I know that I could pump every few hours to keep my milk supply up and at least give him breast milk for a few bottles each day, but with my childcare job I don't see how that will work. These kids are nosy and need a lot of supervision - I can't just lock myself in a room for 15-20 min a couple times while they are here.

I know he'll be fine on formula, and it's not the end of the world, but I'm sad that he's weaning himself off nursing so soon. :guilty:

:hug:

I know it's hard. I hated it when I stopped nursing Vaylie. I missed "our" time.

But, like you said- it's not the end of the world. And 9 months is a long time- you've done a great job!
 
So get this: I live in a small town (really small) in Southern IL. It's not what you'd call the most "sophisticated" or highly educated population, nor would you call it multi-cultural or racially/culturally sensitive, but it's home. :rolleyes:

Anyway- Less than a week into my new position, where I have been forewarned about people's political "views", someone asks me about mine. (Baaaad idea- but, hey- they don't know better yet ;) )So, anyway, I say that I am voting for Barrack Obama.

And seriously- I got this response:

"Barack Obama sucks- he's the antichrist! He's a muslim and a terrorist.." etc.

I could hardly restrain myself, but I did say, "I hope you don't really believe that sort of garbage."

No, she does. I promised to prove her wrong. I said, if you don't like his politics- that's one thing and I totally respect that. What I do not respect is someone running their mouth spewing forth more ignorance- the world has plenty without you adding to it. Don't believe everything you get in chain e-mails (should that even be necessary to tell someone?).

It's going to be interesting. (I did print off about 20 pages worth of Snopes.com and FactCheck.org for her). ;)

I just hate that people will base such an important decision on e-mail garbage. And I am completely easy to get along with and LOVE talking about politics in a respectful manner- but that had to be stopped. One of my best friends (we've known each other since the 9th grade) is a Republican, but we always joke that we're going to be a great ticket one day: Becky the Democrat and Lauren the Republican run as co-presidents!!

I respect everyone's right to vote as they see fit and encourage people to use their right! Even if it's not for the person I'm voting for. But, be educated!!!
 
update on my "due date"

We're having a scheduled C-Section on Dec. 9th.

I'm hoping to finish up all the rest of my nursery bedding this weekend while visiting my mom. I can't sit at my sewing machine nearly as long as I'd like before little man gets all wiggly. He's sitting REALLY low so it starts hurting after awhile to sit up.
 
How do people afford to have more than one kid in daycare? I mean, we don't qualify as "low income" but there is not enough surplus in our budget to do daycare for 2 kids.

I think that is a major reason for people switching to having one parent stay at home, because sometimes 1 income goes directly to daycare!

I'll be a SAHM again once spring comes. No way would I be paying $500 week for Brady and the baby, plus $175/month during school year for after care for Ty. Then during vacations/summer, Ty is $160/week (that's w/discount). The 175/month is just for after care, he doesn't go in the am's anymore. When he went in the am, it was $290/month.
 
Becky - I can't believe that woman said that about Obama!! :eek: Holy crap how uneducated of a statement was that!? It's almost funny....;)

Nicole - Hmmmm....I don't know. I know you said it's not the right eye tooth...but that's what it kinda looks like from the pic. I would email it to your dentist, or find a pediatric dentist, or even your ped. They would know best!! Good luck and KUP! :goodvibes

Jenny - I hope you and Noah feel better for your trip!! :goodvibes Even though we just went, I'm still jealous that you are going!! ;)
 
Kelly- I know, right? I mean, she wasn't even being sarcastic. *sigh*

Stacy- oh my gosh!! No wonder you'll stay home. I am just so aggravated right now. People shouldn't have to give up careers because day care is so unaffordable, but we shouldn't have to sacrifice quality when it comes to the careof our children. :sad2:

JB111107- yea! isn't it funny to know your kid's birthday in advance?

Whew- just watched the debate. Only a month until elections. I don't know if my cardiovascular system can handle it. :laughing:
 
Becky, I hear you on the insane stuff people will believe about candidates they don't like! Even here I hear junk like that about both candidates! DH is republican and I'm (mostly) democrat, so we like to compare the latest rumors about each other's favorites...like did you know John McCain was brainwashed while he was a POW and is currently working for the commies? Or that he's actually senile and has early Alzheimers? :rotfl2: He's not my prefered candidate, but good grief!


Thanks for the support on the BF, ladies. At first I thought it was just a nursing strike, but since it's been going on for about a month, I'm really starting to think that he's just weaning himself. Sigh. I keep offering, but I'm afraid that I won't have any milk left if he ever does show interest again. Oh well. Like I said before, I know he'll be fine on the formula, and it's just my missing the snuggle time we had before.

Frankly, I think DH is kind of pleased that we're about done with BF. I think he's been feeling a little jealous of the connection Owen and I have had and wants to be able to be involved in every aspect of Owen's care. He's still very sympathetic and comforting when I'm sad about it, but he likes that he gets to give Owen a bottle and have that extra time to hold him. :)
 
Too funny. Here we've been talking about daycares and second children and Noah got up at 2:30 this morning starving since his throat is sore he's not eatting alot of his solids so he needs an extra bottle which I hope is over soon. I'm a morning person bur really. Anyway DH is not a good getting up in the middle of the night guy so we get Noah back to sleep and DH says are you sure you want another one. LOL I know its odd to say but I've always wanted two but now that I have Noah I think I'd be ok with just having one. We'll just have to see how I feel in a year or two.

Daycare here is crazy. We put our name on two lists when I was only 8 weeks along and we didn't get into either place. DH had a list of 12 more right after I had Noah and we realized we didn't have care lined up when I was going to have to go back to work and luckily we found one opening. We were there one month before the one next to my neigborhood had a slot for us. We pay $285 a week for the infant room which is a little cheaper then some other places around here that are real daycares and not a church or something. I looked at a couple of the church ones and for the little difference in cost it just wasn't worth it. They didn't have nearly as much stuff for the kids and the teachers weren't as qualified. Everyone at his daycare now has some kind of degree. They are new so just finishing up the star ratings but will be a 5 when its all done which is the best in NC (I'm not sure if all states have the same ratings or not). One of my friends who pays less then me where she goes (but its about 45 minutes away) tells me some stories from her daycare and I'm not sure my son would go there. I'm sure as time goes I'll have a couple doozy stories of my own but we'll see. I realy love the cameras so I can peak in on him. My mom, MIL and dad all have access too so there is usually someone looking in on him. Some days I think my mom and MIL spend all day watching him on the cameras. LOL

Ok can you tell I've been up forever. LOL just babbling away. Well I better leave for work since its my last day for a week. Lots to do.
 
"Barack Obama sucks- he's the antichrist! He's a muslim and a terrorist.." etc.

I said, if you don't like his politics- that's one thing and I totally respect that. What I do not respect is someone running their mouth spewing forth more ignorance- the world has plenty without you adding to it.

Seriously, sometimes I can't believe that there are still people in this country that think that way! I totally agree that everyone has the right to their own beliefs and agreeing with the politics of one candidate vs another. There are even things I like more about each candidate. But to say that BO is the antichrist, muslim, terrorist, etc is just ignorant! It's bad enough to make me question whether everyone should really have the right to vote. :sad2:

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Crap, I can't believe it, but I have the flu again. This is seriously like the 3rd or 4th time this year, and I can't take it anymore. As soon as I am better I am going out to get a flu shot!

I hope everyone else is having a better weekend and escaping from these crazy flu bugs!
 
Well I need to talk to someone because I'm losing it right now. AF is a week and a half late. I've taken three pg tests and they have all been BFN (which is the result I really really want). I've got a call in to my doctor right now and I hope that maybe they can see me this afternoon or have me come in for bloodwork or something because I don't think I've slept in about two days.

I'm not saying that I definatley don't ever want another child, but now would be the worst possible time and I honestly don't know how I would or could handle it. I only get to see my DH an hour or two a day. Our finances are a mess. I can't ever stay well. Ellery is into everything. And on top of that my last pregnancy was really rough.

I really wish they would hurry up and call me back.
 
Well I need to talk to someone because I'm losing it right now. AF is a week and a half late. I've taken three pg tests and they have all been BFN (which is the result I really really want). I've got a call in to my doctor right now and I hope that maybe they can see me this afternoon or have me come in for bloodwork or something because I don't think I've slept in about two days.

I'm not saying that I definatley don't ever want another child, but now would be the worst possible time and I honestly don't know how I would or could handle it. I only get to see my DH an hour or two a day. Our finances are a mess. I can't ever stay well. Ellery is into everything. And on top of that my last pregnancy was really rough.

I really wish they would hurry up and call me back.

Ash - :hug: Try to relax. There are plenty of reasons for late AF (including stress). Hopefully the doctor calls you back soon.
 
Ash

Deep breaths! Calm down!

Pollito is right -- AF can be late for lots of reasons. Plus if the tests are coming up BFN and you are a week and a half late - that is a good sign that you aren't pregnant -- by now - it should be registering a positive for being that late.

Glad you called your doctor. What kind of tests are you taking -- did you try first response - not a digital?

Keep us posted!! Thinking of you!!

-Nicole
 
I've taken two CVS brands and this morning I took a first response. I don't know why it takes someone so long to return a friggin phone call.
 
BECKY- lol at the homecare girls and their 'myspace' pics! scary! yes, we need Bethany to just commute all over the country and take care of our kids! at least we would have someone we trust! :goodvibes
So you step away from the political threads only to have to fight it at work? lol....it is so ignorant what some people say. I am not an Obama fan, but I don't hate him either, in fact, I don't really care for either candidate. but that's beside the point. regardless, I've seen people forward me the whole "Obama terrorist" thing and i just laugh. It's just plain silly what some people believe. Don't let it get to you. And good thing you didn't work at my last company (defense contractor)----if you were a democrat, you sure as hell didn't say so at work there. :rotfl: Of course I live in George Bush country too, so that doesn't help. :laughing:

DENISE- that is so sweet you are buying them some little gifts. I am sure they love watching Mo anyhow! He's a sweetie! ;) and i totally get you on the saying 'no'.....we say it to Will and he just looks at me and laughs. I'll say it multiple times and finally he stops laughing and the bottom lip comes out and he pouts or cries. lol......how do kids know how to pout- i guess it is just built in! :rotfl: :confused3

JEN- good luck on finding childcare for Christopher. yes, family or friends usually get offending if your way of parenting differs- they do take it personally it seems no matter how hard you try.

JENNY- have a great time next week!! where are you guys staying again? I hope Noah and all of you get healthy this weekend before you go. You do know you have to write a trip report for us! $285 a week? ouch!! i thought my $215 a week was high!

NICOLE- speaking of- i need to go find your TR! I don't know abou the tooth- you could just take her into the dentist to put your mind at ease? Poor Will only has 2 teeth still and he is almost a year old! :confused3 i definitely see what you are talking about in the pic though.

BETHANY- sorry to hear about the nursing.....and don't let the helpline people make you feel bad about it. I bet you are doing everything you can- maybe he is just losing interest as he gets bigger. keep trying and i am sending thoughts your way!

ASH- hugs to you too. i hope you hear something soon. those tests are pretty accurate, especially if you have taken 3. believe me, i've read all the pregnancy tests/POAS- pee on a stick websites from when i was TTC. the tests are pretty good these days and if you are this late, you would definitely have enough hormone for the test to detect. Being stressed out can cause your body to react in strange ways, including skipping periods. hang in there. :hug: :hug: :hug:

POLLITO- feel better! hugs to you.....i hope you get better soon. :sick: :hug:

and i am sort of relieved to hear some of you say you couldn't be a full time SAHM. I sort of feel bad saying that sometimes....feeling selfish I guess. Especially since i put so much (money, time and pain) into getting pregnant to begin with- it was a 2 year journey. I think sometimes when I tell folks what I went through and then they hear I went back to work when he was just over 2 months- they are sort of confused- like "why have a baby or want one if you aren't even going to be home to take care of it." While i would love being home part time, i think it is important for some to keep their own independence, goals and ambition....i know for me, that makes me a better mom.

on affording day care- it's tough. we are both fortunate to have good jobs and do pretty well. But even so, DH is hesitant to have #2 before Will is in school- he is just afraid paying 2 day cares at once- that would be nearing $1800 a month, that's more than our mortgage! Neither of us can justify staying at home. Even with 2 kids, i couldn't justify it with my salary. it's still a scary thought- paying for 2.

ok- back to work! i just finished our family monthly disney newsletter! i know, i'm crazy! i even have a good family friend that i send it to as well since they are going in dec.

heading to austin tomorrow for my sister's bachelorette and leaving the boys for a daddy and son weekend! i hope the house doesn't burn down!
 
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