The new "Magic Pass" poll

[PinMan]

rich i have to agree with you 100 %, this pass is useless as --- on a bull ! it's an insult to dvc members,they stand to profit much from us, give us a real break !

 

[jennybobenny]

I was the 65th 'no' vote, and agree with everything already said. I think the passes are a joke and an insult and can't for the life of me figure out how Disney thought they were doing anyone a favor.

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[TheLionKing]

Count me in the useless category......

The pass that is.

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[ScottOKW2K]

Add another NO vote - and another vote on some type of "DVC" discount on the annual pass, or maybe even a new type of annual pass - good for more than one year. They have already implicitly recognized that we are the long-term type of Disney guests, simply by offering a multi-year "Magic Pass." Why not simply offer a 2,3, or 4 year AP for DVC members ?

Of course, it would have to be enough of a discount to get the "skip-year" type off the fence, especially with the recent rule change last June on AP renewals. I know that I did not renew my AP, but bought new because it was a better decision financially for me. Also, as has been stated on this board more times than I can count, if one has an active AP, you are more likely to make arrangements for that "extra" trip that you really, really *need* right now, than if you had to buy new admission. Disney needs to help "feed the need !"

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[Pat Marlton NJ]

We visit 2 to 3 times a year, buying this pass is a losing proposition for us!! Just give us a equitable discount on park passes, you will certainly may it up on my wife's next shopping spree!

 

[baileybrad]

some of you already receive this great discount due to the fact that you are actually FL residents. This is the type of discount that I am looking for to encourage many DVCers from Disney parks and restaurants in the future.

 

[Jimmac]

After reading the description of this pass I had to re-read it several times thinking that there must be something that I'm missing or skipping over. Afterwards, I could only conclude who in their right mind would buy a pass that is so exspensive and so restrictive?

 

[PinMan]

how much of a discount for being a florida resident ?

 

[bunnymkc]

This is not good for our family at all!!!Since we joined DVC in 1997 we have bought an AP and gotten 3-4 trips a year out of it. The last one we renewed was in May of 2000, then went down in Dec and again in Feb. As we are not going down again till Sept and they have changed the pass as to when it starts we havn't made up our minds as to renew or just get a new one in Sept, I am leaning towards renew as we will be going down in Dec also, and I think we could get 3 trips out of it, depends on the price. We use our AP's as our fun in DW, we go to Epcot to just eat or see something special, it just feels so different when you have an AP, you feel like you don't need to rush and do everything and it makes our vacations so much better. The worst thing "they" did was to change the AP's to their current status. I wish they would go back to the old way as it made it so much easier for us....Ah well just wishful thinking...I wonder whose brainstorm that was...Marianne...

 

[Richyams]

I pay like $160 a year for a "seasonal" pass. This is an AP with blackout dates. The black out dates are eight or nine weeks in the summer, Easter week and Christmas week. I think there are discounts for a regular AP also, I would never go during the black out dates anyway, so I have never really looked into it.

Who was the lonely "yes" vote?

Why didn't they give a reason?

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs", Karl Marx,This has failed every time it has been tried, why do we still have liberals?

 

[jctwizzer]

Prediction. This poll will be about as useful as the Pass. You have too much time on your hands!

 

[SwampFox]

I'm amazed that this company even stays in business. You'd think that anyone with any sense would have run a poll as probing as this one. They then could have seen that since 86 people(when I just checked ...and not necessarily even members) out of 45,000 think this pass won't work for them, obviously the whole idea stinks. It's obvious that this company won't be around very long with decisions like this.

It's also apparent that the ending of the previous pass program has deterred most of these same respondents from even going into the parks.

Oh....wait.... most of the replies have stated they bought AP's and therefore don't need any other passes...and they bought those without any special incentives from DVC. Some even have an AP (FL res variety) even though I remember comments stating they would spend their $$ elsewhere. Unless Disney sees some drop off in park attendance from DVC members- there is no reason to offer some better incentive. Businesses need to be motivated to offer incentives- even businesses as poorly run and failing as Disney (at least by the tone of the posts above) "obviously" is!

I've also seen posts here spouting how bad UMP's are- I bought 2 for our last trip and saved $$ over any other type pass- even an AP.

 

[MdmMim]

That pass is no good for me, either. I usually go to WDW and spend 3-4 weeks there in the winter. An AP is the only thing that works for me!

Now, a nice DVC discount on the AP would make me smile!

[This message was edited by MdmMim on 03-21-01 at 07:50 PM.]

 

[Richyams]

Maybe the opinion of 100 or so people out of 45,000 doesn't mean much, but as a statistical sampling that is running 99% for useless, that is pretty meaningful.

I have too much time on my hands?? It took hours to make up 90 usernames to vote, then e-mail people and tell them what to post, man, this has been an exhausting day.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs", Karl Marx,This has failed every time it has been tried, why do we still have liberals?

 

[SwampFox]

"Meaningful" statistical sampling?? Oh, yeah- you'll get lots of meaningful responses when you taunt those who disagree with you... calling them "lonely" voters.

You're completely right, this company has no future at all. With meaningful surveys like this proving beyond a doubt how inept they are, they don't stand a chance.

 

[profdsny]

I think the pass is, at best, poorly planned, and not giving us anything. Regarding Epcot restaurants, there should be some form of validation, like for parking, where you can eat a one of the restaurants only without having to use up a day ticket. You'd have to spend a certain amount, and maybe only for dinner.

"I wouldn't belong to any club that would have me as a member." Groucho Marx. This has never been more funny. So, why do we still have timeshares? (What, this doesn't make any sense? Well, it makes as much sense as Rich's.)

 

[mikesmom]

Rich, the other guy may have been laying it on a little thick with the sarcasm, but he has a point. Why should they give us a discount on the AP? We all bought them anyway! No one (apparently) is sitting on their hands refusing to go to the parks until there is a great deal on a pass. Certainly no one that is a DVC member - it's just a little too convenient. Yeah, I'm sure you went to the parks more when you had the "Golden Handcuffs", but apparently not enough more (for you or anyone else) to make that much difference to Disney.

Besides, I suspect we may be missing the point. They gave you the free ride to get you to buy into DVC, which was once a big unknown. That reason is gone - unless folks stop paying their dues and quit DVC because they don't get a free ride or discount, there is no compelling reason to give that discount. Actually, to really make a statement people would have to stop buying into DVC because admission was once included and now is not. That's hardly the case. Folks are rushing to buy in (including me)even as the price gets higher, the rooms get smaller and ressies get harder to make.

IMHO, there were never free passes into WDW that Disney gave you. I suspect the marketing budget for DVC bought the passes and passed them along to you. They certainly have NO need to do that any longer.

I'm not slamming Disney for the decision. I'm in marketing and there are solid reasons when I recommend to my clients to give something away - it's usually to start or beef up sales. Sometime's it's to cause a little "buzz" so that word of mouth gets the news out on the company or product.That's already happened here. As a matter of fact, every time one of us posts we are adding to the buzz.

We all admit we've gotten good value for our money - we'd like a little more, but I don't think Disney, as a business, can justify it. I'd love to have discounts on my AP, too, but frankly I don't think it's gonna happen.

 

[disneyma]

I can appreciate the thought from Disney but I agree that most of us would be very happy with a 10% discount off AP's or how about changing the renewal back to the way it used to be!!

Ed and Bryan

 

[larry_poppins]

The magic years pass is a joke.
Quite frankly I think the APs are too expensive also. I am only interested in 3 of the 4 parks.
So I am buying an AP at Universal (much cheaper than WDW). SPending the bulk of my time there.
For my EPCOT/MGM/MK fix I can use 2 days of a 5 day hopper. Spend the other 3 days next year and still have an easy entry into Universal/IOA

Sincerely,

Larry Poppins

 

[Caskbill]

I hope Disney doesn't get so smug that they think I'll buy an annual pass every year. In 1993 when we bought at OKW we got the free passes. When they expired in 2000 we spent many days at OKW and BWV's but only a few days at the parks, using old passports we still had from 1992. So for 2000, we bought AP's at Universal/IOA and Sea World/Busch Gardens which still gave us 4 theme parks, but much cheaper than Disney's AP. For 2001 we bought the Disney AP. When they expire, we'll probably go back to the other parks again. We love Disney, but by alternating passes we can enjoy everything. If Disney had a decent pass we'd go to their parks every trip. Too bad they don't see this. We can certainly enjoy our DVC resorts for exactly what they are: A time-share vacation. Being there doesn't mandate that we go to their parks also. There's plenty else to do.