The Liberal Thread #2 - No Debate Please

[crazyforgoofy]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";23420991][/QUOTE]


Deep, thoughtful post.

 

["Got Disney"]

Deep, thoughtful post.

to tired to post but wanted to announce I was here reading...

 

[NewJersey]

There's some blogs saying Hillary's outburst today in RI is her "Dean scream" moment of the 2008 race. I don't think she was that bad, but it was very unbecoming of her and not at all Presidential.

The mailings on both sides have got to stop. And so does this 527.

 

["Got Disney"]

There's some blogs saying Hillary's outburst today in RI is her "Dean scream" moment of the 2008 race. I don't think she was that bad, but it was very unbecoming of her and not at all Presidential.

The mailings on both sides have got to stop. And so does this 527.

She had an outburst today? I have not been watching the news...was it over the mailings again or something else?

 

[NewJersey]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";23421251]She had an outburst today? I have not been watching the news...was it over the mailings again or something else?[/QUOTE]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/24/hillary-clinton-mocks-bar_n_88194.html

 

[NewJersey]

I have a question RE: the negative mailings. Hillary supporters, did you have a problem when she was sending out the negative mailings about Obama well before this weekend when Obama began sending them out?

I have already called National HQ and sent an email to Obama's campaign asking them to stop the mailings. I don't want my donations going towards that type of campaigning.

I wonder if Hillary supporters have felt the same way or if its just crying foul because the other side is doing it now too.

 

["Got Disney"]

Thanks ...I had heard about that already. Guess she has just had it and playing nice for the most part was not working so she had nothing else to loose. Funny thing is that is how all us Hillary supporters feel at this time...and she spoke how it seems to us...

Right or wrong that is how we are viewing all the Obama mania
WE just dont get it...really we dont...and that is nothing against the Obama supporters we just have not been hit by his bug.

Personally I want to here them argue out loud there issues and get to it. I want them to come out fighting and leave the ring shaking hands.

All this he said she said and she said he said is getting old....but it is what it is. For the most par tno one has played real dirty...nothing like in the past..and I have seen many.

And than there is Nader

 

["Got Disney"]

I have a question RE: the negative mailings. Hillary supporters, did you have a problem when she was sending out the negative mailings about Obama well before this weekend when Obama began sending them out?

I have already called National HQ and sent an email to Obama's campaign asking them to stop the mailings. I don't want my donations going towards that type of campaigning.

I wonder if Hillary supporters have felt the same way or if its just crying foul because the other side is doing it now too.

With me (I cant speek for the others) I was not offended by the Neg mailers it was just the thought that he has been talking so much of not playing that game and he did....thats all...I was just surpised

 

[NewJersey]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";23421447]

Right or wrong that is how we are viewing all the Obama mania
WE just dont get it...really we dont...and that is nothing against the Obama supporters we just have not been hit by his bug.

[/QUOTE]

I really don't understand this. What bug? I did my research on the issues, listened to their messages, and feel Obama is the better candidate and will be a better President. I'm sure you did the same and chose Hillary.

But calling it "mania" and "being bitten by his bug" makes it seem like we are blindly following him because it's the "cool thing." Honestly, I think Hillary and some in her campaign are shocked she's in this position to a first-term Senator from IL and can't understand why she's not winning.

 

[NewJersey]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";23421482]With me (I cant speek for the others) I was not offended by the Neg mailers it was just the thought that he has been talking so much of not playing that game and he did....thats all...I was just surpised[/QUOTE]

I can understand that - and I feel the same way. I've let the campaign know how I feel.

 

["Got Disney"]

I really don't understand this. What bug? I did my research on the issues, listened to their messages, and feel Obama is the better candidate and will be a better President. I'm sure you did the same and chose Hillary.

But calling it "mania" and "being bitten by his bug" makes it seem like we are blindly following him because it's the "cool thing." Honestly, I think Hillary and some in her campaign are shocked she's in this position to a first-term Senator from IL and can't understand why she's not winning.

Just a figure of speech....he has this power over some people. I guess for some of us like the Hillary supporters we are on the outside looking in and if your in it you cant see it the way we do...I dont know how to explain it.

Its not just my words theses are words that are all over the media and everything...Obama Mania,Obama craze, Obama rama....

WE as Hillary supporters also want change we just see it in a different light....I have no dought you have followed the issues and the debates it is not about that. It is just a different kind of pwer that you get from Obama that we get from Hillary.

WE still get a ower from her it's just different. That is why there is so much contraversy over the different candidates...make sense

 

[NewJersey]

I think this is pretty funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_mcgO3Iva0&eurl=http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/

 

[DISUNC]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/24/hillary-clinton-mocks-bar_n_88194.html

Thats a 'OUTBURST"...Phuuuuuuuuuuulease!

You wouldnt want to see me when me 'Irish" gets loose!

 

[DISUNC]

I think this is pretty funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_mcgO3Iva0&eurl=http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/

She has EVERY right to complain!

 

["Got Disney"]

I think this is pretty funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_mcgO3Iva0&eurl=http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/

WEll at least she has been consistant. Obama and Michelle make bad diggs at Hillary every time I hear them talk but seems to go on deafs ears with the Obama supporters...example

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN1qZMBE9Gc&feature=related

When they do it it comes back as "Well it's true so that is okay if it is fact"
but when Hillary does it tis is lableled as an attach.

The media is much to blame for alot of this. For example...on that Hillary Ralley that you posted about. CNN had that on for 5 minutes and when Obamas came on they ran it for over 45 minutes.

They were both live at the time. When the CNN bus was outside interviewing supporters the comentator was talking to Obama supporters for over 5 minutes and ended by saying "O yea, we also talked with Hillary supporters...and continued to go back talking about Obama

That has been happening alot mostly with CNN. The only ones for the most part that seems to be giving alittle more fair coverage has been FOX news. But many are watching CNN and they have been unbelivably unfair.

It is starting to be stated as such on the other media stations.

I am not here to do battle with you but if I come in peace( as I did tonight) as did before and have knives thrown at me I will have no choice but to throw back

 

[disneyfan67]

I'm posting this political cartoon because not only is it kind of funny, it reminds me of the position I feel that I'm in. At least this past year and a half.

Make no mistake, Day by Day is a conservative cartoon strip and I have been reading it for a couple of years now. The lead charcter is Damon who is a Black American who tends to fall on the conservative side. His girlfriend is Jan is a liberal and it makes for some interesting back and forth.

I saw this strip today and I thought all of you might get a kick out of it.

Let's not kill the moment here, ok?

 

[DISUNC]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";23421632]Just a figure of speech....he has this power over some people. I guess for some of us like the Hillary supporters we are on the outside looking in and if your in it you cant see it the way we do...I dont know how to explain it.

Its not just my words theses are words that are all over the media and everything...Obama Mania,Obama craze, Obama rama....

WE as Hillary supporters also want change we just see it in a different light....I have no dought you have followed the issues and the debates it is not about that. It is just a different kind of pwer that you get from Obama that we get from Hillary.

WE still get a ower from her it's just different. That is why there is so much contraversy over the different candidates...make sense[/QUOTE]

This is the difference. As I see it!

Many Hillary Supporters KNOW Hillary, and KNOW & Admit when she is spreading the political manure. I can roll my eyes when Hillary says or does something that needs a ! We know her weaknesses & her strengths. We ae not blinded by her.

Many Obama supporters do not see or admit when Obama is spreading his political manure. I dont see Obama supporters ever at their candidate (even though many others are) they speak of him in complete adoration! Much as W supporters have done!

 

["Got Disney"]

I'm posting this political cartoon because not only is it kind of funny, it reminds me of the position I feel that I'm in. At least this past year and a half.

Make no mistake, Day by Day is a conservative cartoon strip and I have been reading it for a couple of years now. The lead charcter is Damon who is a Black American who tends to fall on the conservative side. His girlfriend is Jan is a liberal and it makes for some interesting back and forth.

I saw this strip today and I thought all of you might get a kick out of it.

Let's not kill the moment here, ok?

Thats funny...thanks

 

[Honu]

So here we go again with the Obama supporter digs. Please stop telling us how we feel and how brainwashed we are. I don't like your candidate, but I can respect the choice you've made. Why assume the worst of us?

 

["Got Disney"]

So here we go again with the Obama supporter digs. Please stop telling us how we feel and how brainwashed we are. I don't like your candidate, but I can respect the choice you've made. Why assume the worst of us?

Wait a minute I came in here in peace and was thrown digs about Hillary . No one said anyone tonight was brainwashing anyone. Why is it okay with you and the other Obama supporters to come in herea and throw stuff at us about Hillary or say things like "This is funny " video but when we do it back in retaliation it is an "ATTACK"

Seems to me it is the same with Obama...it is okay for him to do it but dont you dare!!!!

This is no longer a Liberal thread. So I will leave you to it. The issues here are never talked about anymore all is is about is slander....we Dems have become almost as split as if we are DEms and REp in here. The way we go about it with Obama and Hillary.

I will stick to my Hillary thread and go from there as the election progresses. I would appreciate it if you did not come in there and bash Hillary. Go to the Obama thread and save it for there and I will keep it in the Hillary thread and not come into the Obama thread to say anything about bashing of here in her in thre.

So if you come vist in the Hillary thread please try to hold your tounge and bring it into the Obama support thread. Thanks....

I hope at one point we can come together again as one.