The history of EMH

[Tiggerish]

When did Disney first start offering Extra Magic Hours for resort guests?

Am trying to help my niece marshal arguments to convince her teacher about her research topic relating to Disney. We need to put in some facts. Need a 12 page paper and was thinking about the "discrimination" between resort and non resort guests at Disney.

She does have a back up plan on a more regular subject (if you count instant replay for Major League Baseball a regular subject )

 

[funkychunkymonkey]

Please tell me Im not the only one who though Emergeny Medical Hologram? Yep! im a trekie! Time to feed the tribble

 

[figment52]

I never thought of it as discrimination to non-resort guests but a PERK for those staying on site.

 

[Syrreal]

EMH used to be a paid thing. If you were a resort guest you could pay $12 and get a few extra hours in the park. It was much less crowded and pretty awesome. I remember it back in the late 90s and early 2000s

 

[Lilliputian]

Morning EMH has always been free. If I recall correctly, it started with just the MK, and it seems like it was every single day, but maybe it was just a few days a week. I remember going to the MK early on a trip in the early 90s.

Several years after that, they started with the E nights where onsite guests could pay extra to stay at the MK late. At some point other parks started opening early, and then the E nights were discontinued and parks started having evening EMH.

I would think that the best way to research it would be to go to a used book store and look at older editions of guide books. If it's a real research paper, she's going to need a source to cite that isn't just random people on a message board.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

As we know it now, i.e. day and night time EMH, it was January, 2005, I believe - cause we were there that month and it was new then. Disney did, however, offer other forms of EMH prior to that, as a pp mentioned. I think those were called E Nights? (But I can't say for sure.)

As part of the "Magic Your Way" vacation plan, introduced in 2005, Walt Disney World Resort modified their Extra Magic Hour program to include both Morning and Evening "Extra" Hours. Each day one of the Disney Theme Parks opens an hour early or stays open up to an extra three hours, so Guests of Disney Resorts* have the opportunity to get extra time in the parks.

http://www.intercot.com/infocentral/park/extramagic.asp

That said, I don't know if that would be the example I'd use for discrimination.

 

[amys1978]

I remember EMH on my honeymoon in 2003.

 

[Conservative Hippie]

I remember EMH on my honeymoon in 2003.

That's funny, I don't remember them at all on our honeymoon June 2003. But our next trip in November 2005 they were there.

 

[smitch425]

I never thought of it as discrimination to non-resort guests but a PERK for those staying on site.

Totally agree! It is NOT discrimination in the slightest. Besides, ALL guests are allowed to stay for evening EMH, but only resort guests can ride rides. I would choose a different topic.

 

[disneychrista]

Offering something to one group (on site guests) but not another group (off site "day guests") is discrimination. It is not ILLEGAL discrimination but it is the classic definition of discrimination.

 

[maelstrom]

I think it was E-Ticket night in the early 2000's, and then at some point, maybe around 2005, it switched to EMH.

 

[tvguy]

As we know it now, i.e. day and night time EMH, it was January, 2005, I believe - cause we were there that month and it was new then. Disney did, however, offer other forms of EMH prior to that, as a pp mentioned. I think those were called E Nights? (But I can't say for sure.)



That said, I don't know if that would be the example I'd use for discrimination.

Can't speak to Disneyworld.....but the first time I took DW to Disneyland in 1983...their version was called Magical Morning.....and it was included if you booked thru Disney, even if you stayed in a non-Disney hotel. You got in at 6:30, and breakfast in Tomorrowland was included. But, only some of the rides were open, not all. Usually just in Tomorrowland.

 

[Conservative Hippie]

Offering something to one group (on site guests) but not another group (off site "day guests") is discrimination. It is not ILLEGAL discrimination but it is the classic definition of discrimination.

I see it an amenity of the hotel you have paid for.

 

[smitch425]

Offering something to one group (on site guests) but not another group (off site "day guests") is discrimination. It is not ILLEGAL discrimination but it is the classic definition of discrimination.

I suppose so. However, when I think of the word, I think of it in a sense of denying someone something based on who they are/what they look like. Everyone has the opportunity to book a Disney resort. They don't discriminate in that sense.

I'm still wondering why someone's aunt is trying to do their homework for them. I would be picking an easier topic. Seems like a lot of time for writing this paper would be lost in trying to prove this topic worthy of writing about.

 

[Stitchfans]

IMO the EMH to on site guest isn't necessarily discrimination. It is like an extra thank you to the guests for staying at their resorts. Staying off site is often a bit cheaper. So in a way the on site guests are kind of paying for the EMH. Just my way of looking at it.

 

[lacrosse_lady72]

EMH is discriminatory? Oh man, that's a new one.

Everyone is welcome to stay at a Disney resort, it's your choice to stay there or not and therefore it's your choice to participate in EMH or not.

 

[disneychrista]

I suppose so. However, when I think of the word, I think of it in a sense of denying someone something based on who they are/what they look like. Everyone has the opportunity to book a Disney resort. They don't discriminate in that sense.

But they are denying someone something based on who they are. They are off site / day guests and therefore do not get EMH.

I completely agree with that it is a perk for staying on site. And see NOTHING wrong with them doing so. Just saying it IS a type of discrimination.

In general when we see the word discrimination we think of only the illegal type, based on protected class (sex, race, age, etc). We forget that discrimination is not always illegal.

 

[dawnhaze]

Trying to claim that a resort amenity is discrimination against people who choose not to stay at that resort is pretty silly. She should go with a topic her teacher won't laugh out loud at.

 

[Conservative Hippie]

But they are denying someone something based on who they are. They are off site / day guests and therefore do not get EMH.

I completely agree with that it is a perk for staying on site. And see NOTHING wrong with them doing so. Just saying it IS a type of discrimination.

In general when we see the word discrimination we think of only the illegal type, based on protected class (sex, race, age, etc). We forget that discrimination is not always illegal.

Then Disney is also discriminating by not allowing everyone (paid or not) into the park. If you can't afford to stay at the Poly, is it discrimination to not be admitted to sleep or swim there?

 

[crashbb]

But they are denying someone something based on who they are. They are off site / day guests and therefore do not get EMH.

I completely agree with that it is a perk for staying on site. And see NOTHING wrong with them doing so. Just saying it IS a type of discrimination.

In general when we see the word discrimination we think of only the illegal type, based on protected class (sex, race, age, etc). We forget that discrimination is not always illegal.

But it isn't based on "who they are", it is based on a choice that they made. Everyone has the option to be an onsite guest. If EMH is discrimination, then not letting everyone into the Grand Floridian Club Level lounge is also discrimination.