The Genie Usage, Tips and Strategy ONLY Thread

Hi, currently here and stacking G+ for the afternoon at HS. Currently have the following:

RNRC - 4-5P
ROR ILL - 5:35 - 6:35p
SDD - 5:45 - 6:45p
MFSR - 6:05 - 7:05

Planning on getting another G+ for TSMM but wanted to ask what would be the recommended order for doing these after RNRC? I wasn't sure how long each LL ride would take (line+ride) and I don't want to miss any obviously. Thx!!
 
Hi, currently here and stacking G+ for the afternoon at HS. Currently have the following:

RNRC - 4-5P
ROR ILL - 5:35 - 6:35p
SDD - 5:45 - 6:45p
MFSR - 6:05 - 7:05

Planning on getting another G+ for TSMM but wanted to ask what would be the recommended order for doing these after RNRC? I wasn't sure how long each LL ride would take (line+ride) and I don't want to miss any obviously. Thx!!
If you can get tsmm around 5/5:30, that'd probably be best as you could hit both TSL rides first and not have to go back and forth.

So you would go rnrc, tsmm, SDD, RotR, mfsr
 
Does cancelling a LL restart your clock? I see mention of booking anything to keep your stack and then modifying it later, but I would think cancelling and rebooking something else/another time would mess things up. Is there a certain order you have to do things in?

Cancelling an LL clears your eligibility clock, making you eligible to rebook immediately. But when you do rebook, that will reset your eligibility timer to 2h (or the expiry time of the LL you just booked, whatever is sooner.)

So say it's 10:45, you're holding an LL for 2 pm, and will be eligible to book a second LL at 11:00. You can wait until 11, book a second LL, then cancel the 2 pm and immediately replace it with another, leaving you with two booked. OR you can cancel and replace the 2 pm right away, but your eligibility timer to book a second will now be reset to 12:45, unless you book an earlier LL and either tap into it, cancel it, or allow it to expire.

In other words, if the primary goal is to start a second "stack", you should wait.

ETA: When people say "book anything to keep your stack", they mean that if you are currently eligible to book, you might as well do it, even if you might modify it later. Eligibility is a binary concept - you either are, or you're not. So yes, if, at 11 am, I book an LL, and then an hour later I change my mind and cancel/rebook, I'll push my eligibility timer out. But I'm not any worse off by doing that than if I just waited until noon to book that new LL in the first place. And if I don't book, and something else happens in the meantime that would make me eligible to book (eg. I tap into an existing LL, or another two hours pass), then that 11 am opportunity to book a second LL is, in effect, permanently lost. I can still book another LL anytime, but I only have one, when I could have had two. HTH.
 
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Nice, I love Toy story Land. Fun to look around and see everything and the rides are great too. But you'll really enjoy being able to explore Galaxy's Edge without rushing to get back to TSL.
 
Has anyone skipped reserving SDD and instead just booked first available at say RnRC or TOT and kept doing that?
So Rope drop SDD dash during early entry and then keep rolling the one Genie+ reservation (kind of like it was intended to be?) I’m wondering if we did this if there were be immediate return times available throughout the morning as people rush to book up SDD and MFSR and essentially “lock” themselves out of another LL until 11am?
 
Has anyone skipped reserving SDD and instead just booked first available at say RnRC or TOT and kept doing that?
So Rope drop SDD dash during early entry and then keep rolling the one Genie+ reservation (kind of like it was intended to be?) I’m wondering if we did this if there were be immediate return times available throughout the morning as people rush to book up SDD and MFSR and essentially “lock” themselves out of another LL until 11am?
I think this will be my strategy on our Christmas trip, though probably get TSMM and we'll skip SDD altogether. But will depend on how my 7yo is feeling about it, she goes back and forth on wanting to ride it again. She was a bit scared the first time she rode in January. I'm now intrigued by getting the pass for 2 hours after park opening to get the pass before checking in right at the 2 hour mark and another after checking in to the ride.
 
I think this will be my strategy on our Christmas trip, though probably get TSMM and we'll skip SDD altogether. But will depend on how my 7yo is feeling about it, she goes back and forth on wanting to ride it again. She was a bit scared the first time she rode in January. I'm now intrigued by getting the pass for 2 hours after park opening to get the pass before checking in right at the 2 hour mark and another after checking in to the ride.

that’s a good idea too! I just hate to do SDD and lock myself out for 2 hours when they are so limited to begin With. Once they got reserved later than I wanted to go, I could hop somewhere with more availability.
 
that’s a good idea too! I just hate to do SDD and lock myself out for 2 hours when they are so limited to begin With. Once they got reserved later than I wanted to go, I could hop somewhere with more availability.
For a park hopper, using them early makes more sense. But as a non-park hopper, my plan is to reserve my LL selections for when the lines are actually long later in the day. And that also allows us to possibly ride a favorite ride more than once, once SB in the morning and once LL later in the day. I just checked (~3:00) and DHS has LL availability on everything except MSFR and SDD. So my G+ strategy will be like it was for FP+ of scheduling them shortly after 11 - early enough to be able to refresh for more, but not so early that they didn't really save you much time. I feel like that strategy is even more important now that you can only get a LL once per ride. I can picture using them all early and having nothing but long lines to choose from in the evenings.
 
Has anyone skipped reserving SDD and instead just booked first available at say RnRC or TOT and kept doing that?
So Rope drop SDD dash during early entry and then keep rolling the one Genie+ reservation (kind of like it was intended to be?) I’m wondering if we did this if there were be immediate return times available throughout the morning as people rush to book up SDD and MFSR and essentially “lock” themselves out of another LL until 11am?

This is similar to what I've been noodling. We want to do to GE in the evening and don't really care about SDD. So I've been thinking about rope dropping RnRC, trying for the earliest possible LL for ToT, then hope to get a couple more rolling LLs in while keeping an eye on return times for MFSR. Once that starts pushing out around 5 (or even a bit later), book that and then spend the cool down period having lunch and a couple of beers. Mop up anything left with a combo of LL and standby and then head to GE for the evening with our MSFR LL, an ILL for ROTR and (hopefully!) an ADR for Oga's.

I *think* this will work, based on the return times on Thrill Data. But I'll be keeping a close eye on how fast MFSR fills up next week.
 
This thread is huge so I apologize if this is a duplicate question.

I know off-site can’t book ILL$ until park opening. How has this experience been for off-siters? Are they sold out by then or only very late times? TY!!
 
This is similar to what I've been noodling. We want to do to GE in the evening and don't really care about SDD. So I've been thinking about rope dropping RnRC, trying for the earliest possible LL for ToT, then hope to get a couple more rolling LLs in while keeping an eye on return times for MFSR. Once that starts pushing out around 5 (or even a bit later), book that and then spend the cool down period having lunch and a couple of beers. Mop up anything left with a combo of LL and standby and then head to GE for the evening with our MSFR LL, an ILL for ROTR and (hopefully!) an ADR for Oga's.

I *think* this will work, based on the return times on Thrill Data. But I'll be keeping a close eye on how fast MFSR fills up next week.
Are you on-site? If you do early entry and rope drop RnR you can likely go straight to ToT without needing a LL
 
Are you on-site? If you do early entry and rope drop RnR you can likely go straight to ToT without needing a LL

Yes, we will be onsite and that was my initial plan. My concern is that we will (intentionally) not be in the front of the pack and we're lazy and don't like walking fast on vacation. So I was thinking by the time we got to RnR and rode it, ToT could have a semi-long line. I think my issue is that I'm obsessing over the perfect strategy to skip ALL the lines instead of just accepting that we'll be in WDW at a busy time and will definitely have to wait in some lines some times.
 
This thread is huge so I apologize if this is a duplicate question.

I know off-site can’t book ILL$ until park opening. How has this experience been for off-siters? Are they sold out by then or only very late times? TY!!
So just looking at the tip page in genie now at 7:50pm and for the 3 parks open, each has 1 ILL$ still available. From watching throughout the day, it seems only Rise of the Resistance is the only one selling out prior to park open, I think seven dwarfs mine train lasts quite a while into the day as well as Remy's. I'm can't recall how long Flight of Passage lasts, but Everest is usually available throughout the day as well.
 
This thread is huge so I apologize if this is a duplicate question.

I know off-site can’t book ILL$ until park opening. How has this experience been for off-siters? Are they sold out by then or only very late times? TY!!
So just looking at the tip page in genie now at 7:50pm and for the 3 parks open, each has 1 ILL$ still available. From watching throughout the day, it seems only Rise of the Resistance is the only one selling out prior to park open, I think seven dwarfs mine train lasts quite a while into the day as well as Remy's. I'm can't recall how long Flight of Passage lasts, but Everest is usually available throughout the day as well.

I think there was one day when Remy sold out between 10 & 11am. I saw it sometime in the last week. Other than Rise, it's the only one that comes close to selling out before park opening, sometimes. Rise always sells out quickly, usually in the first half hour or hour.
 












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