The Conservative Thread: Back to Basics. Pass the Lasagna and Have a Flower!!

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Oh please, anyone but Huckabee...for anything. I think we would have had a winning ticket in a Romney/Palin ticket. Huckabee sabotaged Mitt and I am afraid he will be back in 2012 to do it again!

I agree. I do not get a warm/fuzzy from Huckabee.

I will go one further though and say that perhaps Mitt Romney isn't the best for the top ticket either. Nothing specific really, just a sense that he doesn't really resonate with people outside the staid conservative mindset (of which I am part). :thumbsup2

I don't know that we have one yet (but I sure like what I am hearing from Gov's Jindal & Palin- not to mention Michael S Steele).

We need to figure out a way to bring back the Big Tent for the Republican Party. Part of this is understanding that legislating morality needs to move back to our personal lives and what we do as individuals.

Fair warning, I am going to be a broken record on this but I think our salvation is to get back to our core precepts and leave the rest to our opponents.

Conservatism is rational and based on an idea that there truly is no such thing as a free lunch. Somebody, somewhere has to pay for it and that person is the individual tax-payer.

Liberalism is much crueler in practice because it promises everything to everyone, yet can never deliver.

& we are about to receive another object lesson on why this is the outcome.....

every. single. time.

JMO
 
I agree. I do not get a warm/fuzzy from Huckabee.

I will go one further though and say that perhaps Mitt Romney isn't the best for the top ticket either. Nothing specific really, just a sense that he doesn't really resonate with people outside the staid conservative mindset (of which I am part). :thumbsup2

I don't know that we have one yet (but I sure like what I am hearing from Gov's Jindal & Palin- not to mention Michael S Steele).

We need to figure out a way to bring back the Big Tent for the Republican Party. Part of this is understanding that legislating morality needs to move back to our personal lives and what we do as individuals.

Fair warning, I am going to be a broken record on this but I think our salvation is to get back to our core precepts and leave the rest to our opponents.

Conservatism is rational and based on an idea that there truly is no such thing as a free lunch. Somebody, somewhere has to pay for it and that person is the individual tax-payer.

Liberalism is much crueler in practice because it promises everything to everyone, yet can never deliver.

& we are about to receive another object lesson on why this is the outcome.....

every. single. time.

JMO

I think Romney resonated better after he lost the primary! ;) Great concession speech, a better spokesman for McCain than McCain himself. I heard people who sat on the fence who didn't understand why he withdrew. I asked, "Did you vote for him?" NO, they didn't. I agree with you about Michael Steele. I could support him. He is well spoken and has internalized what conservatism means. Sometimes I think that McCain had to search for that, it wasn't "automatic". Palin understood it and articulated it. Its good to plan ahead. Not only for 2012 but for 2010.
 
I think Romney resonated better after he lost the primary! ;) Great concession speech, a better spokesman for McCain than McCain himself. I heard people who sat on the fence who didn't understand why he withdrew. I asked, "Did you vote for him?" NO, they didn't. I agree with you about Michael Steele. I could support him. He is well spoken and has internalized what conservatism means. Sometimes I think that McCain had to search for that, it wasn't "automatic". Palin understood it and articulated it. Its good to plan ahead. Not only for 2012 but for 2010.

:laughing: at bolded. It was a great speech and I have a tremendous amount of respect for Mr Romney.

Also agree your comments on Sen McCain. Part of me is shuddering in anticipation of McCain's promise to "reach across the aisle" he repeatedly made during the campaign.

If there was EVER a time for principled opposition by Republicans in Congress, it is now!
 
I agree with you Dawn - Pleeeaaassse no Huckabee, and I also agree with Mr. Man - enough with the "close enough" conservatives. I won't throw my hat in for anyone yet, although I really liked what I saw from Palin! I would feel very comfortable with her as POTUS.

I actually like Ann Coulter/Gingrich ticket :rotfl:
 

They cannot stop calling their opponents racist......it is still all they have.........and it works...... I still say it is a dumb strategy and one that ensures we stay divided, but they are obviously comfortable with that.

I don't believe that President-elect Obama will damage me.......he will very likely ensure that I keep less of my hard earned money than I know I should, but I don't see this being permanent.

I look at this administration as "Put Up or Shut Up time" for the liberals. President-elect Obama promised the Moon during the campaign and there is no way he can deliver on any of it......and keep the Moonbats happy.

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It is win/win for us, as long we keep referring to the list of promises from his campaign and what he actually does.....well that and not descend into the childish hatred we saw the last 8 years from screamers like above.

Keep in mind, Sen McCain (for all his faults), still received 46% of the popular vote.

We just need to get back to basics (like the thread title) & watch events unfold.

I already started. I no longer have cable TV or newspaper subscriptions. I am done with the media and their elite bias.

I am internet only. We have plenty of DVD's.

Regards,

I agree wholeheartedly. Obama promised the world, now it's time to deliver. WHEN he doesn't, I plan on complaining as much as the liberals did during these last 8 years. Now it's OUR turn to complain about the lack of results.

This should actually be kind of fun to watch BHO fall flat on his face.
 
I would've have said, "better Jesusy than Satany!"

:thumbsup2 Ya'll think I need to put this in my siggie?

Isn't it chilling....to know the OS already moniter our speech? I guess, they are doing their part in "shushin' us conservatives up".:scared1: What good little soldiers they are.

BTW, anyone seen where bo's agenda has been scrubed from his website? :laughing: :laughing: Chi otterra l'ultima risata? (Who will get the last laugh?):laughing: :laughing:
 
Hi all!:flower3: Been away from the thread for a couple of days and trying to catch up. Seems there has been lots of good discussions (I wouldn't expect anything less!) I'm babysitting my 2 year-old grandaughter; trying to type at the same time as I'm watching Spongebob so I apologize if I don't make any sense. :rotfl:

I don't know that we have one yet (but I sure like what I am hearing from Gov's Jindal & Palin- not to mention Michael S Steele).

Conservatism is rational and based on an idea that there truly is no such thing as a free lunch. Somebody, somewhere has to pay for it and that person is the individual tax-payer.

Liberalism is much crueler in practice because it promises everything to everyone, yet can never deliver.

& we are about to receive another object lesson on why this is the outcome.....

every. single. time.

JMO

Great post Mr Man (hope you don't mind I just pulled out a few pieces). Is Michael Steele the same person I've seen on H&C and BOR? I always enjoy his perspective.
 
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I won't throw my hat in for anyone yet, although I really liked what I saw from Palin! I would feel very comfortable with her as POTUS.

I actually like Ann Coulter/Gingrich ticket :rotfl:

I totally agree.....:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
 
I was never shy during the primaries about my objections to both Huckabee and Romney. Huckabee seemed like a nice enough guy, but it didn't sit well with me that he was a minister. I don't mind an elected official having a strong faith and convictions, but I worried that he would be seen as preaching not from the pulpit, but the Oval Office. No thank you. I agree with Mr Man that morality should not be legislated by the government. Prohibition taught us that. Even for those opposed to abortion, it needs to be recognized that they would still occur even if outlawed. Although I still can't grasp why Obama was the only one who would be against saving a child once it was out of the womb.:guilty: Romney just gave me a feeling of being a bit too slick, and I have Republican friends up that way who did not think he was the best candidate. I think Jindal holds a lot of promise for somebody who could lead our party in a really positive direction, and 4 years is no longer far away in the political landscape of 2 year campaign cycles.
 
I finally ventured out in the CB last night and it didn't take long before I was called "ignorant". I am 50 and I have never been around a group of arrogant and vile discontents in all my life. I have also noticed that several are missing their siggies. :rolleyes1

I know what you mean. I thought things would tone down. But it hasn't. There have been some threads that are doozies. :sad2: I just read them and keep going.

I'm not into politics now. After the let down, I guess it's time for a break. McCain wasn't really a conservative anyway. He was as they say, "Liberal Lite" as opposed to, "Full Throttle Liberal" with Obama. I'd take liberal lite over full throttle any day! But the die is cast.

I don't want to argue. I'm staying in reading mode. :surfweb:
 
:thumbsup2 Ya'll think I need to put this in my siggie?

Isn't it chilling....to know the OS already moniter our speech? I guess, they are doing their part in "shushin' us conservatives up".:scared1: What good little soldiers they are.

BTW, anyone seen where bo's agenda has been scrubed from his website? :laughing: :laughing: Chi otterra l'ultima risata? (Who will get the last laugh?):laughing: :laughing:

:thumbsup2 I think you should put it in your siggy!
 
"Huckabee sabotaged Mitt and I am afraid he will be back in 2012 to do it again!"

You know, I actually liked Huckabee, until he pulled that stunt. I thought it was calculating and under-handed. It seemed to me as if he didn't really want to be the nominee, but was there to try to help JM (which he did.) I still enjoy listening to his new show on Fox though!
 
Just now online and catching up on posts. Wanted to respond to this now though.

I am sorry if you saw my comments as bickering but I am concerned that Huckabee's asking "questionable" questions about Mormonism, created thoughts among some that Romney was a member of a "cult". Huckabee stood very little chance of ever winning the general election and I think that he will stand very little chance of winning the next general election. I would certainly support Romney, Palin, Jindal and I think that we need leaders to emerge now that will take Republicans back to their conservative roots. Again, Huckabee was socially conservative, but he wasn't a generally conservative candidate. He had a populist appeal but it wasn't he wasn't consistantly conservative. I agree that its important to talk about the positive leaders that need to emerge but I think its important to recognize the those who may show up at the prom but won't make it to graduation. Edited to add, if there are detractors that concern posters about Romney, that can be discussed as well. I won't take it personally. ;)

I agree with Dawn. I know this all isn't policy related, but I still think what she's talking about helped lead us to McCain being the nominee. I've said it a couple of times now, but I'm a Southern Baptist like Mike is. My preacher is from Arkansas and has been friends with him for years, even. But I saw firsthand what started to happen amongst some evangelicals because of the stuff Huckabee said and did. By publically making comments like "Don't Mormons believe that Jesus and the Devil are brothers?'', he riled up a lot of evangelicals I personally know to the point where they thought Romney was a nut. They didn't support him because of it. I'm in no way saying all people who didn't like Romney didn't like him because of his religion; just that some people (whom I know) didn't because Huckabee, frankly, freaked them out. A fractured base helped create the monstrosity that was the McCain candidacy. Now, I disagree with a lot of Mormon beliefs, but my personal opinion is that a candidate's religion is none of my business, as long as they aren't and/or their church isn't pushing violence, anti-American sentiment, etc.

But I am admittedly biased. Huckabee's been somewhat "famous" in my denomination for a long time now. Those who aren't Southern Baptists aren't as likely to know about the "Baptist Civil War" (yes, that's an actual term, as pathetic as it is to admit :rolleyes: ) we had within the denomination in the 1980s. It was a very complicated and, at times, very ugly and unseemly situation. Without boring people with the details or pushing my own beliefs down anyone's throats, many SBs do not trust or like him at all because people believe he showed himself at that time to be willing to turn on conservatives within the denomination for the sake of his own gain in moving up the power ladder. This has been the feeling among many for about 19 years now.

In short, there's more than just typical political "baggage" that Mike has to deal with. It's also church politics, which as I'm sure many of us know, can be more rough and tumble than national politics. :rotfl:
 
Well, trying to look on the bright side here. One good thing from an Obama presidency: A national Obama holiday. Hopefully there will be a government mandate for the day off. :thumbsup2

:rolleyes:

Edited to Add:

Anyone reading NoQuarter? (I've realized that we have at least one or two NoQuarter readers on this thread) UppityWoman is cracking me up tonight (or maybe I'm just easily amused tonight :confused3 )

National “Hail Obama” Holiday
By Uppity Woman

Plans are underway for a National Barack Obama Holiday.
Yes, that’s right, someone is actually working on a Barack Obama National Holiday, as was done for several other of Achievement and Greatness.

Let’s examine with what Barack Obama has in common with other people we name National Holidays after.

They were all long gone before we made a holiday in their names and they all achieved great things. They were honored with a National Holiday in their names AFTER they actually DID something for America.

George Washington was the first President of the United States. Barack obama hasn’t even served a term yet.

Abraham Lincoln still ranks Number One amongst greatest presidents in popularity polls. He presided over a civil war that freed the slaves. He is also well known for his Gettysburg Address. Barack Obama is known for his Typical White Woman Address. However, the plans for Barack’s National Holiday on his Inauguration Day will include celebration of Abe Lincoln’s birthday. It sure is nice of them to include Abe in Barack Obama Day.

Perhaps we could declare every Inauguration Day from this day forward as Barack Obama Day. Of course, in order to do that, we would have to imagine that nobody else will ever be inaugurated as President. Perhaps Barack can just be a permanent President. Cool huh? I think some other countries do it like that too…..

Both George and Abe already share a day named President’s Day. Perhaps Obama would like to hop on as America’s first living great man who fancies himself comparable to George and Abe. We could call the day Presidents and Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh Baaaaaaaaaa Maaaaaaaaaa Day.

Martin Luther King died for the cause of equal rights. We have a National Holiday in his name. He made the “I have a dream” speech. Deval Patrick Barack Obama made the “Yes We Can” speech.

Let’s see, I can’t think of any other individuals we have actually ever honored with a National Holiday. But we do have other National Holidays with reason:

New Year’s Day: In celebration of the start of a New Year. Generally people celebrate on the night before in places where people with no class get fall-down drunk, throw-up and then try to kiss someone at midnight. Hopefully they make it home without killing someone. In the USA, New Year’s Eve is lauded as the single most lucrative night for police departments seeking steep fines from drivers with high blood-alcohol counts.

Easter: In honor of the rising of Jesus on the third day, celebrated by Christians but everybody gets the day off whether they believe or not.

Memorial Day: In honor of people who have died, including those who died in service to our country. One Memorial Day, cemeteries become a kind of meeting place where everyone goes to pretty up the graves of their relatives and compare who spent more on the headstones. Most of them rarely return until the same time next year.

Independence Day is our celebration of America’s independence. Ironically, Taxation Without Representation seems to have returned to our shores, though.

Labor Day: I really have no idea how this one got started. I would imagine it was a successful attempt by unions to get another day off during the long haul between Independence Day and Veteran’s Day. Coincidentally, it is always celebrated on a Monday so that everybody can get that long weekend. I also know that Labor Day was formerly used as a measuring device for white shoes, as in “You don’t wear white after Labor Day”.

Columbus Day: To honor the man who managed to discover America when there were already people here who discovered it first. No easy feat. That must be why they named the place after Amerigo Vespucci. Beats me. All I know is I had an Italian Aunt who died not talking to me because i told her you can’t discover a place if somebody already discovered it first.

Veterans Day: To honor the people who put their lives on the line in order to retain what now appears to be a precarious Democracy in America. Many of them have limbs missing. Some of them were Prisoners of War. All of them risked their lives to serve America. Many of them died doing just that.

Thanksgiving: The very first Thanksgiving occurred when the settlers in America celebrated the bounty they had received thanks to the Native Americans, who taught the starving settlers how to hunt and fish. The settlers invited the Native Americans to join them in a three day celebration of the bounty. This, of course, was well before we annihilated them. Later, the 13 colonies each celebrated specific days of bounty Thanksgiving. It was Abe Lincoln who finally led the charge to make Thanksgiving for everyone fall on the third Thursday in November.

Christmas: In honor of the birth of Jesus. Perhaps Obama would like to hop on to this one as well.
As you can see, our very few National Holidays that are actually assigned to people, are attributed to people who actually lived and died and did some miraculous and noteworthy things for humanity in between.

Can anybody list the miraculous and noteworthy things for humanity Barack Obama has done yet? I’ll wait….

As far as I know, there are no people we have ever named National Holidays for who were alive when we declared the holiday. And we certainly never declared a National Holiday in someone’s name before he did much of anything. At least not in American Democracy. However, there are people in the past who ruled other countries and were celebrated that way while they were still living. They were kind of what you called “works in progress”. Usually, there were posters of their images on the outside and inside of every building. People had their pictures in their homes. There were statues built in their likenesses. People worshipped them out of fear and neediness– and some even had special salutes and parades in their honor.

Stalin, Mussolini, Napoleon and Hitler come to mind. In a more contemporary vein, Saddam Hussein also comes to mind. North Korea’s Dear Leader, however, is an example of a living person who is worshipped that way as well. And let us not forget Fidel.

So you might say the precedent has been set for Barack, although I am not so sure it would be a source of pride for America to follow these examples. Now, let’s see: What do all these Leaders have in common, living and dead? I know! They ruled/rule over heartless dictatorships, kept/keep their people suppressed and hungry, stifled/stifle free speech and tended/tend to get rid of anybody who irritated/irritates them or spoke/speaks out against them.

So you see, Barack Obama just doesn’t fill the bill, unless he wants to become America’s Fidel Castro or Dear Leader. This, of course, would require the removal of Democracy and Capitalism from our country. I know some folks seem rather interested in that concept, but, you see, most of us aren’t– and history tells us that most of us would be willing to fight vehemently in order to protect our Democracy. This is especially so for those Americans who came here to get away from that kind of rule.

But hey, we do understand Obama’s Narcissism and need for adulation. After all, who ever heard of “The Office of The President-Elect” until now? And with him comes many of his Narcissistic followers in tow, also known as Blood Sucking Dependents in most Baby Boomer homes. So I have an even better idea that might placate his nearly insatiable need to be worshipped:

Why don’t we just plaster his face on ALL of our currency? Take those other guys off and just put his face on all of our money, just like Saddam Hussein did. Is that cool or what? I mean, who needs old dead people like George Washington or Abe Lincoln when we have a Barack Obama? This would also make it much easier for children in our dumbed-down schools to answer questions like, “Who is on the twenty dollar bill?”. The answer would always be the same no matter which bill the teacher asks about: Barack Obama!

Guess what else? We already have a coin! No sense of leaving coins out. We already have the basic design.

We might as well put his face on all our coins too! That way, when the next Great Depression hits us, right after Barack redistributes incomes and most of the rich people move to another country to get away from here, we can all beg on the street and say, “Hey Buddy, can you spare a Barack dime? How about a Barack nickel, then?”

Also, since we will all be dependent on our government for survival during the Great Obama Depression, right after the top 20% move to their villas in other countries, we could put his name on a stamp. But not a USPS stamp, since nobody will be able to afford those. I’m thinking a more functional stamp:

And then there’s also that Mount Rushmore idea……
 
I just wanted to come out of the lurking closet to say that I have really enjoyed reading this thread and your opinions and optimism have helped me see that there is "hope and change" :lmao: ahead for the conservative community. I really thought that enough people in this country would see through Obama and his empty campaign, but was disappointed in the gullibility of the American electorate. Thank you for being there and being a voice for reason.
 
Well, trying to look on the bright side here. One good thing from an Obama presidency: A national Obama holiday. Hopefully there will be a government mandate for the day off. :thumbsup2

:rolleyes:

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Anyone reading NoQuarter? (I've realized that we have at least one or two NoQuarter readers on this thread) UppityWoman is cracking me up tonight (or maybe I'm just easily amused tonight :confused3 )

At least they had the good sense not to promote it as "Heil Obama Day".......just sayin'.......

I wonder if there will be games and whatnot......that would be ever so much fun..... /s

:upsidedow
 
Has anyone gotten the "Ready to Kiss you Paycheck Good-bye" ad with a pic of Obama at the top of this page yet? :lmao:

(OK, I'm just easily amused tonight. No, I haven't been drinking but I do need to find food right now)


And welcome KNJ mom! :welcome:
 
I just wanted to come out of the lurking closet to say that I have really enjoyed reading this thread and your opinions and optimism have helped me see that there is "hope and change" :lmao: ahead for the conservative community. I really thought that enough people in this country would see through Obama and his empty campaign, but was disappointed in the gullibility of the American electorate. Thank you for being there and being a voice for reason.

Hi!!! Glad to have you post here!!!! :goodvibes

Once again.... I ain't reading back.:lmao:

44 days till Christmas at WDW!! I cannot WAIT to get down there!!:woohoo:
 
I just wanted to come out of the lurking closet to say that I have really enjoyed reading this thread and your opinions and optimism have helped me see that there is "hope and change" :lmao: ahead for the conservative community. I really thought that enough people in this country would see through Obama and his empty campaign, but was disappointed in the gullibility of the American electorate. Thank you for being there and being a voice for reason.

Hi and thanks for posting. We try to dilute the Kool-aid as much as possible in here (I just slipped two bottles of gin in the mix)........I predict much amusement for us......

:)
 
he met with the CIA for the first time last thursday. i'm sure he was shocked by that debriefing a number of times. i completely expected his "promises" to soften after he found out the truth. that's the problem with hiring somebody to this position who hasn't sufficient experience in general, and especially military experience...he didn't have a CLUE!!!!

wonderlanne- just wanted to say that the Message from Joe the Plumber in your siggie cracked me up today! Too funny! :rotfl:

... ok.. going to find food now.. really I am...
 
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