The Civil War

half of my family was here, on the union side, the other was in ireland

so,yeah. im a union
 
According to my family's geographical history, I could've been on either.
According to my family's point of view, I'd probably be on the confederate side. (My family isn't racist, I just know that back in those times we probably would've been slave owners and living in the south.)

According to my POV, I don't know. I wasn't alive back in those times, so I can't really say.
 
What rights were they fighting for?

The North was going industrial I do believe, and the South was use to having Slaves do the work. And working by hand.
They did not want this to happen.
They were fighting for their way of life and their economy.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
One of best friends got a new roommate midway through the year and after this new roommate moved in, my friend walked into his room to see a huge Confederate flag hanging on the wall. Certainly a shocker. Even though it's frowned upon here, there's nothing anyone can really do about it. It's sort of a confusing thing though...his roommate isn't a racist (as far as we know) nor does he support that stuff (as far as we know). :confused3
 

The North was going industrial I do believe, and the South was use to having Slaves do the work. And working by hand.
They did not want this to happen.
They were fighting for their way of life and their economy.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yes, I was just wondering what rights other than to keep their slaves was the South fighting for.
 
Im sorry, but I just dont understand the point of this thread.


To be honest, I wouldnt be on a side.
I dont keep up to date with things.
EVER.
At that point I would still be in England, screaming "A NEW WORLD!? WHAT!?"
"TEA, STAMPS, WHAT!?"

Yes.
That would be me.
 
THE SOUTH.

I assume that's the timing when Gone with the wind was set in. ( I hope)

I want the accent and those DRESSES.. They're pwnin.
 
Im sorry, but I just dont understand the point of this thread.


To be honest, I wouldnt be on a side.
I dont keep up to date with things.
EVER.
At that point I would still be in England, screaming "A NEW WORLD!? WHAT!?"
"TEA, STAMPS, WHAT!?"

Yes.
That would be me.

I just finished a book about what side people would choose.
 
i cant say i know which side i would choose...

NORTH:

Positives:
anti-slavery
wanted to keep the union together
were fighting for others to have rights

Negatives:
had no business getting involved
were hurting their comrades economy
werent becoming educated about the matter, but rashly acted out
used brutal war tactics
would not try to reach an agreement


SOUTH

Positives:
were fighting for their economy
werent trying to start a war

Negatives:
badly abused their slaves
used brutal war tactics
tried to secede
would not try to reach an agreement
thought using the brains of their forefathers instead of their own


as you see, each side was in the wrong. im sure i would have seen things differently, though, had i lived in that time. it is for this reason that NO ONE should 'know' which side they would be on--only suspect. everyone was very emotional back then, and every history book tells the tale with a slant.
 
i cant say i know which side i would choose...

NORTH:

Positives:
anti-slavery
wanted to keep the union together
were fighting for others to have rights

Negatives:
had no business getting involved
were hurting their comrades economy
werent becoming educated about the matter, but rashly acted out
used brutal war tactics
would not try to reach an agreement


SOUTH

Positives:
were fighting for their economy
werent trying to start a war

Negatives:
badly abused their slaves
used brutal war tactics
tried to secede
would not try to reach an agreement
thought using the brains of their forefathers instead of their own


as you see, each side was in the wrong. im sure i would have seen things differently, though, had i lived in that time. it is for this reason that NO ONE should 'know' which side they would be on--only suspect. everyone was very emotional back then, and every history book tells the tale with a slant.

I just wanted to point out- the South may not have instigated the war, but technically, they were the first to start it.
They were the ones to start attacking forts and Union territories- both acts of war.

And honestly, the North had every right to get involved. They knew full well that if the United States did not stay a union, it would not only badly hurt both Northern and Southern economies, but would eventually stretch into a Confedarcy vs. Mexico war, which would then lead into international warfare, as European countries would have come to the aid of their territories. So, the North was definetly not just messing around with the South's business, they were directly effected.

But I do agree with what you said about not being able to choose sides.
Right now, educated and in the modern times, I'd join the Union. But who knows what might have happened back in the day?:upsidedow
 
Like I said, totally irrelevant question in today's world. :rolleyes1
 
i dont think it's totaly irrelavant cause you have to know your past find your future right?
 
i dont think it's totaly irrelavant cause you have to know your past find your future right?

The subject isn't irrelevant, but the question is. People have no need to pick because we aren't living then and it's never coming back. It's interesting to think about (I love history and think about it all the time) but it doesn't make it relevant to today's society. Well, maybe you have a point. Idk, I'm tired and have too much on my mind. I shouldn't be on the DIS...I need sleep!!! :laughing:
 
I would fight for the Union because Lincoln was one of the greatest, if not the greatest president of the United States. Also, Col. Chamberlain's defense of Little Round Top at Gettysburg was awesome! It was a bayonet charge not to be confused with Pickett's Charge.
 
just wanted to pop in and say that slavery wasnt even a cause of the civil war lol... the civil war was all about political power and economic power... the south used to dominate over the north, economically and politically.. however, when the north started to pull its act together, with licoln winning the election and all, the south threw a hissy fit.... they were starting to lose their power over the country as a whole, and began the offensive... they wanted to maintain their dominance over the north basically

long story short, throughout the war, the south was trying to get britain to join their fight... britains always had its eyes on america, so they did indeed wanted to join... however, britain had JUST abolished slavery in their own country... so lincoln was a smart guy... he promised to abolish slavery for 2 reasons... it would get him a lot more support among activists... and itll keep britain out of the war.. because if britain joined the south, they would look hypocritical since the south wanted to keep slavery

... sooo slavery wasnt even a major issue in the war.. its abolishment just so happened to be an outcome of it... a strategic operation on the norths end ... sooo i dont think its evil for people to say that they would probably be confederates if they were actually living in that time period... its all political struggle, and is basically just a matter of where you were living at the time..



but id be a union supportor because the union represented foreign citizens.. and id be a foreigner lol


..i loved my history class haha
 


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