The BAD About Our Recent Trip...

[Darian]

But that guy is a dirt rotten lying SOB! I can't believe enough idiots in this country voted for him to win. And he is a total Jerk.


Now, You figure out who I am talking about

You shouldn't be so hard on him... what with having his weakness for young girls and cigars and all. Plus that shrew he's married to. I feel his pain. I'm glad my DW isn't a castrator like his!

 

[brer rabbit 28]

HMMMMM funny you should say that. Do your children eat meat? Wear leathers or furs? Because my children don't. We don't support industries whose bottom line is dollars and so don't kill humanely. Do you? Because if you do, I think you are promoting the message that thats acceptable. Do you get pelasure out of eating animals that were tortured by thefarming industry? Do you know that your hamburgers are skinned before they are allt he way dead? What kind of torture are YOU telling YOUR children is ok? What kind of disgusting example are you.

I'd say, in the grand scheme of things, chasing away seagulls is ten times more acceptable than eating meat or wearing the fur of foxes who are anally electrocuted.

Who is the bad example now BAMA?

Blimey you sure do have some double standards.

 

[Darian]

I deleted my post as I felt it was not adequately civil.

 

[Disneyholic]

One thing I've noticed about the parades that always surprises me is how many adults sit right in front (sometimes stand). Why is it such an inconvenience for them to let children sit in front. Being much bigger than the children it can't possibly be hard for them to see over the children. In my home town parades the front is always where the children sit, adults are always behind them. This being said, I have never pushed my child in front of anybody. We always show up last minute and are content to watch from behind everybody else. My ds does not like parades anyways

It's a big inconvenience for me because I have been sitting on the curb for the last half hour waiting for the parade and now someone with kids comes at the last minute and expects me to move for their kids! If they wanted the curb they can come early and claim it too. I am 52 and need to sit sometimes and parades are one of those times. If I get there late I stand in the back and sometimes can't see because the Moms and Dads put kiddies on their shoulders in front of me. I'd have to be 7foot6 to see over them at this point, but hey, they're kids. So what am I at Disney? You guessed it, a BIG KID and I can have tantrums, too!

 

[KatheeME]

I TOTALLY agree with giving up my seat to the elderly or parents with children, pregnant women etc, BUT, and I say this in the most kind way, why wouldn't you wait for the next bus with available seats?

We were lucky enough to ride the bus with the kindest of kind Disney visitors. My pregnant DW and I walked into a bus that was already packed from a previous pickup, so she had nowhere to sit. Luckily enough an older gentleman got up and asked her to sit. I was very happy to see the good hearts of some people. He immediately struck up a conversation with me and I made a new friend at Disney lol. (Along with many other nice people we met out of the blue)

 

[KatheeME]

While I would NEVER stand at the curb waiting for a parade to start, I don't know of any reason why my dh and I can't go early and sit on a curb, securing ourselves a great view for the parade.

One thing I've noticed about the parades that always surprises me is how many adults sit right in front (sometimes stand). Why is it such an inconvenience for them to let children sit in front. Being much bigger than the children it can't possibly be hard for them to see over the children. In my home town parades the front is always where the children sit, adults are always behind them. This being said, I have never pushed my child in front of anybody. We always show up last minute and are content to watch from behind everybody else. My ds does not like parades anyways.

I also have issue with something many others have mentioned which is the groups of people taking up the whole walkway. On one trip I noticed that nobody I encountered ever moved aside even a little for me to get by. I always had to fall in line behind my husband with our ds in between us. These were those large groups I'm talking about with 5+ people side by side. I said something to my dh about it and he said just keep walking and they will move. I told him i didn't think so but I gave it a try anyways. What ended up happening was the guy walked straight into me rather than step behind his large group. Yes I realize that I walked straight into him too, but I was just proving a point that we had to walk in single file to get by all these large groups because nobody else was being considerate at all.

 

[brer rabbit 28]

mum and i always arrive in good time and patiently sit on the curb waiting for the parade.We don't have any young children with us but we have paid as much as anyone else.We always stay seated so anyone behind us can see easily.I don't want to sound at all rude to any parents but if you want your children to be able to see then please pick a spot in good time.I saw a horrendous battle for space near splash mountain where several people fell into the path of the parade because of all the pushing and shoving that was going on between parents.This is meant to be a happy place,not a battle of wills.

 

[maddhatir]

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Originally Posted by AllyCatTapia
HMMMMM funny you should say that. Do your children eat meat? Wear leathers or furs? Because my children don't. We don't support industries whose bottom line is dollars and so don't kill humanely. Do you? Because if you do, I think you are promoting the message that thats acceptable. Do you get pelasure out of eating animals that were tortured by thefarming industry? Do you know that your hamburgers are skinned before they are allt he way dead? What kind of torture are YOU telling YOUR children is ok? What kind of disgusting example are you.

I'd say, in the grand scheme of things, chasing away seagulls is ten times more acceptable than eating meat or wearing the fur of foxes who are anally electrocuted.

Who is the bad example now BAMA?

Blimey you sure do have some double standards.

i was going to stay out of this but i was just a bit confused and needed to say it

i agree- i was very surprised to hear the whole PETA schpeel but then its ok to chase seagulls because -oh well- they are "only" rats with wings.....

and me? no, i dont eat meat (and other items including gelatin, rennet (definition: A dried extract made from the stomach lining of a ruminant, used in cheesemaking to curdle milk. YUMMY!)
etc), wear fur, leather, use any products tested on animals.....ONLY because i love them all- i dont pick and choose they all have the same feelings.

 

[maddhatir]

Just to throw this out there (and no one make fun of me for this! ):
"There is an old Indian Legend that says when a human being dies, there is a bridge they must cross to make it to Heaven. At the head of the bridge are all of the animals that person has encountered in their lifetime and it is they who decide who is allowed to pass and who is turned away."

WOW!- why would someone make fun of that-- i think its great- kinda gives me goosebumps!

thanks for sharing!

 

[LindsayDunn228]

We didn't much care for the bus service though...3 of the 4 times I rode we had to wait 10 to 15 minutes while they loaded someone on the handicapped ramp. I understand that everyone needs access to the bus system so not complaining that handicapped people were riding but sure seemed like a long time to wait when trying to keep a schedule.

Most of the time it has never taken more than 5 minutes for me to get on the bus. Is 5 minutes really going to put that much of a kink in your schedule?? Have a little compassion and be thankful it's not your loved one being loaded using a wheelchair.

I'm sorry, but posts like this, especially under a "bad things about my trip" thread, I think are offensive and quite honestly hurt my feelings.

 

[LindsayDunn228]

And my favourite of all. Just because you are lazy, it does not entitle you an electric chair. My heels and legs especially don't appreciate it when you run me over.

I hate to say this but if there was ever a tell tale sign that this country has an obesity problem, WDW reveals it.

I would glady trade someone their obesity and let them have my paraplegia and let them see how using a wheelchair when you have no choice feels like.

 

[goofyernmost]

All very humane and noble people but what does it have to do with bad Disney trips.

 

[Darian]

I would glady trade someone their obesity and let them have my paraplegia and let them see how using a wheelchair when you have no choice feels like.

I know just how you feel. Try doing WDW after 5 heart attacks in a wheelchair when nobody thinks there is a thing wrong with you. They look at you and make comments like you are this filthy lazy pig who is getting pushed around cuz I'm so lazy. I've survived cancer, hep C, and heart disease so far, so I've had thirty heart surgeries that cost over 2 million dollars to keep me alive. They can all bite me, those negative people who don't know what I've been through. Most people are good and kind and I appreciate their help getting into restrooms and the like. But some people are just mean spirited. Don't let them get you down LindsayDunn228 because they aren't worth the dirt under you wheels. I'm not trying to be nasty here on the DIS, where good people hand out. Its just that not everyone who goes to WDW is a decent person. Don't let that bother you. Even the parks, who are alive I believe, reject them. But you're not. Embrace the goodness that is there for you. Focus on the many good people who go there. Not the ones whom the Parks are rejecting. PM me if you want further info.

 

[LindsayDunn228]

Thanks for the kind words, Darian. While in WDW, I really don't make a point to look around and see if people looked peeved that I am holding up the bus. I just get to hear about it here on the DIS.

I don't "look" disabled. The give away is my chair. It's not a bulky hospital chair or a rental. So that's a clue that I may truly have a disability. You should see some of the looks I get when I am parking in a handicapped parking place. Then the next looks I get when they see me putting my wheelchair together then transferring into it. It's priceless!!

Anyway, back to the original topic.

 

[pampam]

Thanks for the kind words, Darian. While in WDW, I really don't make a point to look around and see if people looked peeved that I am holding up the bus. I just get to hear about it here on the DIS.

I don't "look" disabled. The give away is my chair. It's not a bulky hospital chair or a rental. So that's a clue that I may truly have a disability. You should see some of the looks I get when I am parking in a handicapped parking place. Then the next looks I get when they see me putting my wheelchair together then transferring into it. It's priceless!!

Anyway, back to the original topic.

You go, girl. I also liked your post about loading a wc on a bus causing a bad experience for someone on vacation. Come on, people. Lets cut the disabled some slack.

 

[brer rabbit 28]

All very humane and noble people but what does it have to do with bad Disney trips.

come on you know how these threads work-everyone gets off topic!!!!

 

[rabx5]

When we were there, I was mostly ticked at the Test Track sign that stated a 40 minute wait. It was about 80-85 give or take a few minutes. I can see them being off a little, but come on- double?

And the busses for POR- good grief- they ALWAYS had the largest lines at the parks. They need to have one for each PO resort instead of sharing.

I saw some kids chasing bunnies at Epcot- I just shook my head- they climbed the fence to do it- parents didn't say a word. Fences are in place for a reason.

I do have one thing to say about strollers though. When a parent(with another adult) is in line at the bus stop and has their child in the stroller, why must they wait until it's their turn to board to take the child out of the stroller and fold it up? I don't get it? They can see the line is moving- why don't they start so they are prepared to board instead of holding up the line?

Ok, I'm done.

We had a great trip though. Can't wait to go again

 

[maddhatir]

All very humane and noble people but what does it have to do with bad Disney trips.

IF you are talking about the animal stuff- obviously people get upset watching the kiddies chase the animals and tap on glass.......in disney........and some would like to state why it upsets them so, because, not everyone understands why......

if this is NOT what you are talking about...then disregard this!

 

[mickeyluv'r]

I say this in the most kind way, why wouldn't you wait for the next bus with available seats?

Because this doesn't really work much of the time. The next bus is often nearly full. Waiting for a nearly empty bus might not happen for hours. There are many bus stops at WDW where there isn't a clear line - people practically shove each other to get on (many resorts, DTD).

As an example, we were almost first waiting one night: POR to MK. We waited over 30 min. for the bus (we had allowed 50 to get to our ADR). My MIL at about 95 pounds, had a sore hip. She was sitting on the bench to conserve energy. When the bus came, it was a mob scene (EMH night). If there hadn't been a group of us to help her, there's no way she would have gotten on, or probably the next bus either. Some of us ran from the bus stop at MK, and we were still late getting to Chef Mickey's.

Besides it's not like the ones who are there first really did anything special. It's not like people who wait for a show or a parade which has a specific start time. Being first in line at the bus stop is completely random. Sure they've waited longer, but usually only a few minutes.

I too, have seen people who really appear to be abusing the wheelchair system as desribed above (trading off). Luckily, they're relatively few, but WDW does run out of wheelchairs.
There are also plenty of people who feel that they have the right away over a stroller/wheel chair no matter what. It's almost funny - they'll cut you off to slow you down.

I am lucky I don't need a wheelchair, but the current systems does seem inefficient. I'm sure most people aren't annoyed with the person who needs the wheelchair, just the current system. It often takes more than 5 minutes to load one. Especially if the bus driver has trouble getting the ramp down properly. I'm thinking maybe they could add vans for those in wheelchairs at certain locations- if the sytem was good enough, it would mean less wait time for those in wheelchairs, and be less embarrassing. Maybe they could even have a system where you could call ahead from your hotel room - like they do with taxis, but maybe it would cost too much.

 

[KatheeME]

I have to disagree. If you wait for the next bus, you will be first in line. If a bus stops at your stop, there will be space. As you said it will be ALMOST full perhaps, but there will be seats.

Because this doesn't really work much of the time. The next bus is often nearly full. Waiting for a nearly empty bus might not happen for hours. There are many bus stops at WDW where there isn't a clear line - people practically shove each other to get on (many resorts, DTD).

As an example, we were almost first waiting one night: POR to MK. We waited over 30 min. for the bus (we had allowed 50 to get to our ADR). My MIL at about 95 pounds, had a sore hip. She was sitting on the bench to conserve energy. When the bus came, it was a mob scene (EMH night). If there hadn't been a group of us to help her, there's no way she would have gotten on, or probably the next bus either. Some of us ran from the bus stop at MK, and we were still late getting to Chef Mickey's.

Besides it's not like the ones who are there first really did anything special. It's not like people who wait for a show or a parade which has a specific start time. Being first in line at the bus stop is completely random. Sure they've waited longer, but usually only a few minutes.

I too, have seen people who really appear to be abusing the wheelchair system as desribed above (trading off). Luckily, they're relatively few, but WDW does run out of wheelchairs.
There are also plenty of people who feel that they have the right away over a stroller/wheel chair no matter what. It's almost funny - they'll cut you off to slow you down.

I am lucky I don't need a wheelchair, but the current systems does seem inefficient. I'm sure most people aren't annoyed with the person who needs the wheelchair, just the current system. It often takes more than 5 minutes to load one. Especially if the bus driver has trouble getting the ramp down properly. I'm thinking maybe they could add vans for those in wheelchairs at certain locations- if the sytem was good enough, it would mean less wait time for those in wheelchairs, and be less embarrassing. Maybe they could even have a system where you could call ahead from your hotel room - like they do with taxis, but maybe it would cost too much.