Texas kills fancy last meal requests on death row

[luvmy3]

actually it has had a lot to do with the process for a very long time...

At least Texas has seen the light.

 

[Uncle Remus]

lets slide further down your scale... why feed the prisoners at all.... they could just stave to death and there would be no fancy execution...

ETA my civility is not "disney world" civility .. it has been the standard civility in our country for many years... through worse famines and depressions..

It appears it originated as a PP stated, to ward off evil spirits, some civilization we have here, huh?

I tend to agree with you, but my wife is very compassionate and feels differently. I understand her point of view, even if we disagree.

Oh my, ya mean your wife is one of those sympathetic souls?

I'm still uncomfortable with the death penalty anyway, so this is a tough one. It concerns me that the state of GA executed a man this week even though there seemed to be a not so insignificant amount of question as to his guilt. Yet, the low life that dragged a man to his death behind a car certainly deserves a far greater punishment than being basically put to sleep, or being fed, housed and clothed by the taxpayers for years. It's a complex and emotional issue.

As far as the food, is Texas really going to save that much money with this? I mean, how much due these meals actually add to the budget? I've always thought of them as a way that we showed that we were more merciful than the person who committed the crime.

I figure his meal coulda fed a coupla families 'n in a luxurious way for some families.

 

[Uncle Remus]

but are the meals for the dead men walking really the problem? I find it hard to believe that these meals, no matter how gluttonous the choices, were the real cause of people not getting food. Is Texas going to use the money they're saving to feed the hungry?

If my taxes are reduced I have more to give the church, I mean, charities.

 

[MichelleVW]

Getting a meal has nothing to do with the process of executing someone. The last meal is a privilege, one that the inmate gave up when they decided to commit their crime IMO. Keeping the process civilized means not beheading them in the town square, or quartering and disemboweling them. It has nothing do to do with giving them one last privilege.

Agreed!!!

 

[NY Disney fan]

I do not believe in the death penalty because I do not want to answer for anyone's death when I die. All human life has value. Even lifers in prison can use their remaining time to do good in the world. If they choose not to, they have to answer to that. It should be up to no human to decide who lives and who dies. It is immoral.

 

[DisneyBamaFan]

...Oh my, ya mean your wife is one of those sympathetic souls? ...

Yeah - I am on the other side of the spectrum. We balance one another out, so to speak. She is a much better person than me, and our children are lucky to have her as their mother.

 

[akhenaten]

It appears it originated as a PP stated, to ward off evil spirits, some civilization we have here, huh?


.

That may or may not be true, that is the speculation re: the tradition in one society.... but you can laugh if you want...


"Although the history of this tradition is difficult to trace, most modern governments that execute prisoners subscribe to it.
The ancient Greeks, Chinese, and Romans all traditionally gave the condemned man a final meal. The Aztecs fed their human sacrifices for up to a year before killing them.
In pre-modern Europe, granting the condemned a last meal has roots in superstition: a meal was a highly symbolic social act. Accepting freely offered food symbolized making peace with the host. The guest agreed tacitly to take an oath of truce and symbolically abjured all vengeance. Consequentially, in accepting the last meal the condemned was believed to forgive the executioner, the judge, and witness(es). "

 

[Uncle Remus]

I do not believe in the death penalty because I do not want to answer for anyone's death when I die. All human life has value. Even lifers in prison can use their remaining time to do good in the world. If they choose not to, they have to answer to that. It should be up to no human to decide who lives and who dies. It is immoral.

As a former police officer, I'm just gonna disagree with ya 'n bless ya heart, Darlin'.

 

[kaytieeldr]

All death row candidates will now have a choice of:

Meal #1: Rice Cakes and Water

Meal #2: Gefilte fish and entrails

Meal #3: A pickle and vitamin

Death row inmate can also abstain if they choose.

I would like # 4: rice cakes, water, gefilte fish, and a half-sour pickle.

 

[NY Disney fan]

As a former police officer, I'm just gonna disagree with ya 'n bless ya heart, Darlin'.

You can bless my heart. It is ok.

 

[Uncle Remus]

You can bless my heart. It is ok.

I'm from Texas, when we say it we mean it in the Christian way.

 

[NY Disney fan]

I'm from Texas, when we say it we mean it in the Christian way.

LOL oh ok. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[ilovepcot]

As a former police officer, I'm just gonna disagree with ya 'n bless ya heart, Darlin'.

Stop making me laugh! You did it yesterday, too.

 

[Uncle Remus]

That may or may not be true, that is the speculation re: the tradition in one society.... but you can laugh if you want...


"Although the history of this tradition is difficult to trace, most modern governments that execute prisoners subscribe to it.
The ancient Greeks, Chinese, and Romans all traditionally gave the condemned man a final meal. The Aztecs fed their human sacrifices for up to a year before killing them.
In pre-modern Europe, granting the condemned a last meal has roots in superstition: a meal was a highly symbolic social act. Accepting freely offered food symbolized making peace with the host. The guest agreed tacitly to take an oath of truce and symbolically abjured all vengeance. Consequentially, in accepting the last meal the condemned was believed to forgive the executioner, the judge, and witness(es). "

Is that like marriage is between one man 'n one woman?

Time to move into the 21st century, let's cut some of the criminal benefits, they ain't payin' enough taxes.

 

[DisneyBamaFan]

Is that like marriage is between one man 'n one woman?

Holy leap in logic, Batman!

 

[Uncle Remus]

Holy leap in logic, Batman!

I do like the tradition of salutin' the flag 'n men removin' their hats 'n oh, there's some more, but ya know some traditions need to die.

 

[luvmy3]

I do not believe in the death penalty because I do not want to answer for anyone's death when I die. All human life has value. Even lifers in prison can use their remaining time to do good in the world. If they choose not to, they have to answer to that. It should be up to no human to decide who lives and who dies. It is immoral.

How ironic when talking about murderers being executed.
I would also argue that they made the decision to die themselves, the death penalty isn't really a secret and shouldn't come as a surprise when that is the consequence you face for your chosen action.

 

[PeterPan09]

If my taxes are reduced I have more to give the church, I mean, charities.

But will people really do that? Human nature says most will pocket whatever the extra is that they have. Honestly, how many people when faced with extra money think FIRST of giving to charity? If as many people who say they do actually did, there would be far fewer hungry people.

The big question is will taxes actually come down from this, or will that money simply be diverted to something else? And again, how much is Texas really spending on it? I know they execute a lot of people, so maybe it does add up.

 

[luvmy3]

I do like the tradition of salutin' the flag 'n men removin' their hats 'n oh, there's some more, but ya know some traditions need to die.

and without a fancy meal first

 

[akhenaten]

Is that like marriage is between one man 'n one woman?

Time to move into the 21st century, let's cut some of the criminal benefits, they ain't payin' enough taxes.

Sure thing .. right after all good bless your heart christians do support same-sex marriage!

I will go enjoy a real good cup of tea now...