Terrorist Attack in Paris

[skylizard]

The two hostage situations are connected? How terrifying!
Love and prayers to all involved.

 

[Carrie_Cat]

With reports of casualties now...

I'm hearing 2 dead but not confirmed

 

[mom2rtk]

I heard on our local news this morning they had 90,000 security forces in the area in dealing with the 2 suspects.

That HAS to be a mistake, right?

I just heard 80K, so definitely in the same ballpark. I believe that includes military forces.

 

[minkydog]

Minkydog - The two police officiers killed on the 7th were armed as are all National police - they carry as standard Sig Sauers Pro - but when you are faced with Kalashnikovs you might as well not be.

The trainee Municipal police woman who was killed yesterday morning was not armed but as she was shot in the back again by a Kalashnikov it wouldn't have changed anything.

Municipal police are generally not armed except in certain areas that are known to be "difficult". The Montrouge area where I used to work is not a difficult area and at 8.00 am when everyone is going to work it is the last thing you would expect to happen.

Thank you for clarifying. I know you can't believe everything you hear.

 

[NHdisneylover]

It's a bit more complicated than that right now.

They have been watching that hostage situation since 8.00 am local time.

Since 1.00 pm local time we have a second hostage situation as the person who shot the police woman yesterday is holding at least 5 people(women and children) hostage in a kacher/kosher supermarket in Paris.

This suspect knows the other ones so we have a unique situation with 2 sieges at the same time by linked indivuals.

I can't shake the thought that this is so well coordinated that it might be planned to get a huge amount of force and focus on these situations to make it easier to have an even bigger and more horrific event happen elsewhere in the city perpetrated by even more people from the same group. I really, really, really hope not--but we are dealing with a level of evil and organization here that is of 9/11 levels and that is very frightening.

 

[JanaDee]

I just heard 80K, so definitely in the same ballpark. I believe that includes military forces.

That is ridiculous. I hope there is no other crime today in Paris or surrounding areas.

 

[firecracker725]

I can't shake the thought that this is so well coordinated that it might be planned to get a huge amount of force and focus on these situations to make it easier to have an even bigger and more horrific event happen elsewhere in the city perpetrated by even more people from the same group. I really, really, really hope not--but we are dealing with a level of evil and organization here that is of 9/11 levels and that is very frightening.

I fear the same, Hadley. My husband went through the city just as the attacks were happening on his way to Orsay for a conference. He's in Paris proper tonight and tomorrow to do some sight seeing before heading back home tomorrow night. He says the city is crawling with police/CRS. They're well armed.

 

[Carrie_Cat]

That is ridiculous. I hope there is no other crime today in Paris or surrounding areas.

There is 88,000 police, gendarmes and military mobilized right now all over France to look after the security of the French people and 9650 of these are in Paris and the surrounding region.

These are the numbers we are getting from the gouvernement sources.

 

[firecracker725]

That is ridiculous. I hope there is no other crime today in Paris or surrounding areas.

I'm pretty sure they've got it covered. Please remember that the concept of law enforcement and its officers is different from the United States and other countries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_in_France

 

[firecracker725]

There is 88,000 police, gendarmes and military mobilized right now all over France to look after the security of the French people and 9650 of these are in Paris and the surrounding region.

These are the numbers we are getting from the gouvernement sources.

Yes, including the CRS crawling all over my city right now. And I'm nowhere near Paris.

 

[SirDuff]

There is 88,000 police, gendarmes and military mobilized right now all over France to look after the security of the French people and 9650 of these are in Paris and the surrounding region.

These are the numbers we are getting from the gouvernement sources.

Right. It is not 80,000-90,000 in the immediate areas of the current crises.

 

[Carrie_Cat]

Well there's movement right now in the first situation as there is flares, smoke and automatic firing going on - It looks like the assault has been given.

 

[JanaDee]

I'm pretty sure they've got it covered. Please remember that the concept of law enforcement and its officers is different from the United States and other countries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_in_France

It sounds very similar to how our local law enforcement works. We've got town cops, county cops, state troopers and then federal.

 

[firecracker725]

It sounds very similar to how our local law enforcement works. We've got town cops, county cops, state troopers and then federal.

Yeah...but France doesn't.

 

[JanaDee]

Well there's movement right now in the first situation as there is flares, smoke and automatic firing going on - It looks like the assault has been given.

I'm streaming ABC news live online and police have gone into the supermarket in Paris. Flash bangs and gunfire were just heard...I can hear it through the reporters feed.

 

[JanaDee]

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Yeah...but France doesn't.

I was referring to what each agency is responsible for and the different levels of superiority.

 

[JanaDee]

I was thinking about something this morning and it made me stop short.

I don't remember ever hearing the words 'Al Qaeda' before 9/11.

Now, I don't know if I've gone a day since then not hearing those words.

 

[3happydancers]

CNN flasing breaking news;

"Mayor: Magazine attack suspects killed"

Anyone else seeing this?

 

[JanaDee]

CNN flasing breaking news;

"Mayor: Magazine attack suspects killed"

Anyone else seeing this?

Nothing on ABC news yet. They said they are waiting for a news conference at one of the locations.

 

[Carrie_Cat]

They have announced that all the hostage takers are dead. The first hostage is safe and we are waiting for confirmation about the second lot of hostages.