Tell us the ways to beat fast pass+

[TLSnell1981]

. The side affect of this Disney policy is it may allow a guest to ride twice because Disney allows 2 guests to enter the attraction per rider switch pass.

Wow, another change! I didn't realized the decreased the allowance to 2.

 

[delmar411]

Wow, another change! I didn't realized the decreased the allowance to 2.

I believe that is a typo, it is 3 per card. I have a current card in front of me for test track and it says valid for up to 3 guests. It expires feb 28th so 3 is the number allowed.

 

[TLSnell1981]

I believe that is a typo, it is 3 per card. I have a current card in front of me for test track and it says valid for up to 3 guests. It expires feb 28th so 3 is the number allowed.

I thought, it was good for the card holder, PLUS 3 guests.

 

[larie21]

I wouldn't say this is a way to "beat the system". I'm assuming the people who have a problem with the Rider Switch program don't have any children. Otherwise they would understand that Disneyworld is not about riding the most rides. It's about sharing the magical experience with your children. It stinks to be the parent left behind taking care of your baby if you have to ride alone later. It's not so bad when you can share that with your children also.

The rider switch has been set up like this since I was a child bc I remember my parents using it. It's definitely not a new concept designed to beat FP+.

 

[delmar411]

I thought, it was good for the card holder, PLUS 3 guests.

Nope. It has always been like this but often the CMs let it slide. They aren't really allowed to let it slide anymore.

 

[MrInfinity]

I wouldn't say this is a way to "beat the system". I'm assuming the people who have a problem with the Rider Switch program don't have any children. Otherwise they would understand that Disneyworld is not about riding the most rides. It's about sharing the magical experience with your children. It stinks to be the parent left behind taking care of your baby if you have to ride alone later. It's not so bad when you can share that with your children also.

The rider switch has been set up like this since I was a child bc I remember my parents using it. It's definitely not a new concept designed to beat FP+.

I sure hope ppl don't think of this as a way to "beat the system". That is so lame. And selfish. Just like w the disability access... ppl found a way to abuse that, now it's just that much more difficult for ppl who really need it to use it cuz other ppl are greedy. Same thing w Rider Switch. If you haven't been that parent sitting there waiting w your baby... then you shouldn't even be thinking about Rider Switch. It's not an abuse tool. It's a way to give parents w small children a way to deal w the logistics of getting on the rides while caring for small children.

 

[skittlesrock]

I sure hope ppl don't think of this as a way to "beat the system". That is so lame. And selfish. Just like w the disability access... ppl found a way to abuse that, now it's just that much more difficult for ppl who really need it to use it cuz other ppl are greedy. Same thing w Rider Switch. If you haven't been that parent sitting there waiting w your baby... then you shouldn't even be thinking about Rider Switch. It's not an abuse tool. It's a way to give parents w small children a way to deal w the logistics of getting on the rides while caring for small children.

go away you troll.. hahahhaha

 

[skittlesrock]

go away you troll.. hahahhaha

oh wait.. I'm sorry.. I was thinking you were someone else.. got my names wrong.. SO SORRY

 

[MrInfinity]

oh wait.. I'm sorry.. I was thinking you were someone else.. got my names wrong.. SO SORRY

Where's the Troll-Smilie when you need it.

 

[LoKiHB]

I realize that a lot of times people put replies on DISboards with attitude, before this is read I want to preface by saying this is not meant to be rude or snarky. It's just my opinion.

RS has always allowed the child to ride twice because Disney understands a parents desire to experience things with their child. My DH and I have ridden Soarin' plenty of times but never with our child so it will be amazing for us to see it through his eyes. That's why we are going to Disney with our kids in the first place. I don't want to leave my boys with a stranger in the room or use another child care service. I want to experience all Disney has to offer with my children. I'm sure that the very small amount of children that ride twice due to RS does very little to the overall wait time, otherwise Disney would reconsider allowing it.

Exactly!

 

[KatieCharlotte]

Nope. It has always been like this but often the CMs let it slide. They aren't really allowed to let it slide anymore.

I'm pretty sure the cards always said they were good for up to three people. (Which is not two, nor is it a parent PLUS three. ) This allows parents with two big-enough kids and one smaller kid to enjoy the experience with both their children. In my family, only one child was ever interested in riding any height-restricted ride twice, but it was nice to have the possibility.

We never actually used rider switch to maximize our fastpasses. We used them when we rode standby as the morning lines were growing. But, now that we are more limited in the number of FP we can get, I'm more tempted but the youngest is 42 inches...What are the odds I can get a rider switch just for me to use when DH uses his FP+ on Splash? Is it really wrong to try when I am using all my FP+ and all my rope drop time on attractions that my kids love and they all refuse to ride a mountain?

 

[TLSnell1981]

Okay, I was remembering the verbiage incorrectly. The 1 use for up to 3 made me think, it was good for 4 people. We rarely used rider switch and it's been a little while...

 

[Love Tink]

I wouldn't say this is a way to "beat the system". I'm assuming the people who have a problem with the Rider Switch program don't have any children. Otherwise they would understand that Disneyworld is not about riding the most rides. It's about sharing the magical experience with your children. It stinks to be the parent left behind taking care of your baby if you have to ride alone later. It's not so bad when you can share that with your children also.

The rider switch has been set up like this since I was a child bc I remember my parents using it. It's definitely not a new concept designed to beat FP+.

Using the Rider Switch when you have a FP is definitely a way to "beat the system." (Not that I am one who really cares.)

I have three boys and spent many years using Rider Switch at WDW and DL. The purpose of the pass is so both family members don't have to stand in the stand by line. So my husband would go through stand by and then when he was done I could go through FP to avoid a second wait for the family. My son or sons got an extra ride so nobody had to ride alone, which seems fair.

In recent years I've noticed the trend of people getting a Rider Switch even when neither parent is waiting in the stand by line. They would get two FP and then each adult could get two rides without anyone in the family ever standing in the stand by line. That isn't the intended use of the pass.

I think the Rider Switch pass is great when used as it is supposed to be. When used in conjunction with a FP it is pretty sneaky, in my opinion.

And thank you to the troll for the comment that the way to ride things is to leave your kids with a babysitter. Best laugh I've had today. Perfect.

**Edited to add that as much as I appreciate your telling me what "Disneyworld" is about, I disagree. For me and my family it is in great part about getting on our favorite rides several times. But I'm not really a "Disney is magical" person. I'm more like a "Disney is a really fun vacation" person.

 

[larie21]

Okay to clarify... in my humble opinion, Disneyworld is a lot more than riding rides. (And I'm not one of those people who just wants to be at Disneyworld and not ride rides.) I like to ride my favorites multiple times also but if I'm looking for thrill rides, WDW is not my first pick. For me it's the ambiance that makes WDW the best theme park. And yes it's magical for me. Even more so to experience the magic through the eyes of my children.

And I have to disagree about your take on Rider swap. I don't think it's intended to only be used with the standby line. I think that is one goal but the other goal is for one parent not to have to ride solo. And if you choose a height requirement ride for one of your 3 FP+s, both parents should be able to ride the ride with their (tall enough) kids. The system worked like this with the legacy FP too.

***I do think it's beating the system if one parent gets a Soarin FP+ & the other parent gets a TT FP+ to "double up" on FPs. Although, this was easy to do with the legacy FP system also. I don't plan on using it this way but it's not going to bother me if some do.

 

[Babyvett]

I guess I'm not following the FP+ with Rider Swap being sneaky.. FP is accepting a wait time ahead of time and knowing you can't ride that ride until that time comes up unless you are going to wait in standby.. Rider Swap is saying that one parent can wait with the smaller kids while the other parent rides with an older child and then the second parent rides (and older child rides again, as per RS)... Maybe I'm honest and not looking at the logistics for "beating the system" but if DH, DD and myself each have FP+ for an attraction, then get Rider Swap during our window, then all three have already waited and RS allows DD to ride a second time with the second parent. I don't see this as being "sneaky"..

 

[morethananyonex]

I'm not sure why people get so bent out of shape when people mention getting multiple rides with Rider Swap. With the time it takes to get through the line twice, even with a FP+ instead of stand by, families with small children are hardly coming out ahead. We found on our recent trip it was an absolute waste to get everyone a Soarin' FP because unless we used them right at the beginning of the window half our party's were getting wasted anyways. It took about 20-30 minutes to get through the FP+ line at times. The Rider Swap was necessary, even with FP+. For our entire party to ride Soarin', it took about an hour of park time using a FP+.

We could have used the extras to get around the tiers, but we found the TT FP+ so frustrating and long that we just let them go to waste or used them for the Character Spot for the toddler. Still getting around the tiers technically I guess, but whatever.

Rider swap is awesome to have, but it is still much easier to tour the parks efficiently when you don't have to split your group to ride, even taking into account some members of a party getting multiple rides. Parties who have the ability to get RS don't really have an advantage over parties without small children.

 

[ParkHoppers]

It is one thing to maximize the use of the FP system. Chances are if you find a way to beat the system you are negatively affecting the other visitors vacationing along side of you. Some care.....some do not. Which side of the fence you end up on speaks volumes.

 

[mom2rtk]

I guess I'm not following the FP+ with Rider Swap being sneaky.

It's only sneaky if you rent a baby for the day.

 

[Babyvett]

It's only sneaky if you rent a baby for the day.

The two heathens I have are more than enough.. LOL

 

[KatieCharlotte]

I guess I'm not following the FP+ with Rider Swap being sneaky.. FP is accepting a wait time ahead of time and knowing you can't ride that ride until that time comes up unless you are going to wait in standby.. Rider Swap is saying that one parent can wait with the smaller kids while the other parent rides with an older child and then the second parent rides (and older child rides again, as per RS)... Maybe I'm honest and not looking at the logistics for "beating the system" but if DH, DD and myself each have FP+ for an attraction, then get Rider Swap during our window, then all three have already waited and RS allows DD to ride a second time with the second parent. I don't see this as being "sneaky"..

I think that's totally within the intended rules of rider switch, which take into account both parents' desire to ride with the tall-enough kids. Otherwise, the passes would be for one person. We reached the same results by having the old-enough-to-have-a-ticket but too-short-to-ride kid give her FP to the child riding with both parents.
The more questionable strategy is: mom and older kid fastpass Soarin, while dad fastpasses Test Track. Dad and the kids (again) ride Soarin with rider switch. Mom and the kids ride Test Track with rider switch. They all end up better off than the family without small kids. Except, it's a lot harder for them to wait standby and their time in the parks is usually limited by naps and bedtime, so I have no problem with them getting an advantage.