Team Goddess - Volume 11. Rocking 2012 Goddess Style!

I just watched Rescue Mediums - it's a Canadian show - I have no idea if you get it. The ladies are British but they come here to get ghosts to go home.

And they kill me. :rotfl2:

Why are they doing this? Sometimes they literally say things like " I feel intense pressure on my wind pipe". :lmao: Or "oh your face just changed". As into to someone's elses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It always reminds me of Eddie Murphy's Delirious ( I think that's where it's from - is it? Mushy brain) where he says "what is with these white people?" "Why do they keep going into the house?".

Black people know when to get the he!! out.
 
Oh yes, I definitely have. The first one was awful. Leaving her there for the surgery left me a bawling mess. We worried about every little thing and watched her like crazy and got up to give her meds so she got them exactly on the dosing schedule. We still worry about her a lot - always keeping an eye out for anything a little off.

D is as much in this as me, though - he loves them dearly.



Haha! I am drinking a sugar free frozen appletini, but it's my first drink so not drunk.

Mine's too long for the same reason. It just got there - don't get around to getting it cut as often as I should, I guess.

I hardly ever wear it down (maybe 1-2 times a month), and get really surprised at how long it is when I do. It's so humid here and I am frizzy/wavy and just don't want to bother with the hair dryer and flat iron, usually. :laughing:

I meant me Kat. Wait did you know that? I think you knew that. And would you let me fix my dam@ grammar before you post me up!!! :rotfl2: ;)

That's cute with D. Has he always been a cat guy?
 
I meant me Kat. Wait did you know that? I think you knew that. And would you let me fix my dam@ grammar before you post me up!!! :rotfl2: ;)

That's cute with D. Has he always been a cat guy?

Hahaha!! Yes, I knew you meant you. Was just chiming in. :)

He is a definitely a cat guy.
 
WOW, I can't keep up!!

Liz, great job on being down, I would take it too and move on.

I have a bit of news. I went to the store today to return shorts and capri's I just go that are too BIG!!! I had to buy a size I have not seen in over 7 years!! :cool1:
 

Now I appreciate my slacker of a head - it helps with colour.

:lmao::lmao:


HELLO. What the eff are you doing on the scale missy? :lmao: :love:

yeah, well. You know me. I just can't keep away from the dang thing!

Nancy - I came on here to finally type out Jean and my findings (that literally fell in our lap) about our bodies and HR. But now I've rambled so much I'm wiped.

It's funny that you brought this subject came up when you did. I had just had a conversation with Stephen about the whole workout schedule I've been on. Then I got an email from sparkpeople with the subject: "Are your workouts wearing you out?" Then YOU! Trifecta. Someone is trying to tell me something :idea:

Do you have any idea how much I would love to sit and have a cup of coffee and talk about this? :surfweb: Or a fruit plate? ;)

There is, indeed, a whole science to the correlation of the workout-heartrate-fat/fuel burning *thing* that we are all attempting to conquer. Our bodies have been evolving for thousands of years and, as much as some of us don't want to recognize or admit this: our bodies are machines that are much smarter than we are. :teacher: It's so important to properly fuel our bodies so that we are drawing our energy from the appropriate sources (our food we've eaten or our fat stores, not our muscle) or our workouts become counter-productive.

I've decided it's time once again for me to shut up and pay attention.:upsidedow

I do, whole heartedly, believe that our bodies "learn" what to expect from our exercise. That is, in a nutshell, the purpose of endurance training. Teaching our body how to handle the ever-increasing demands of those extra miles we add on each week.

I also know, factually, that a more muscular body will burn more calories than a body with less muscle.

And, it is also a fact that I have been significantly neglecting the strength portion of my workouts for a good long while now. Not that I haven't been doing any strength work at all, I just haven't been working at a level challenging enough to even maintain the muscles I once had, never mind adding any!

So. The philosophy behind my crazy workout schedule these last 4 weeks has been to 1) continue the necessary training for the Princess (which has presented it's own set of complications with the arthritis crap!) and 2) attempt to regain the muscle mass that I have lost in the last 18 months.

This is not something that I expect, nor intend, to do long-term. There's just no reasonable way to keep up that kind of schedule. And frankly, I truly don't believe that it is necessary. I'm just trying to do 2 things at once, which is fine short-term and short-term only.



WOW, I can't keep up!!

:laughing: Sorry Jo. I have SO much more to say. I'll save it for another post, just to give you a fighting chance to catch up here!

I have a bit of news. I went to the store today to return shorts and capri's I just go that are too BIG!!! I had to buy a size I have not seen in over 7 years!! :cool1:

:woohoo::woohoo: That's fabulous news Jo!



Paula and Karen - I hope you are both enjoying your vacations! :cheer2:
 
Jo - fantastic on the that. What a wonderful feeling. :woohoo:

As for keeping up - well you would die over on the Biggest Loser threads. :rotfl2: I've given up. I'm off for a day and pages and pages and pages....

Frankie - HORRENDOUS night. Enough said. And Jean slept through it. popcorn:: :lmao: I'm fried.

So Nancy - before I start on my thesis.

I'm smiling broadly - all of that is synchronicity and I truly believe that that is how we know we're on the right track.

More synchronicity today toward you.

What you're talking about muscles and such - Jean and I just were chatting about. Talking about how I perceived no matter how fit or solid I truly was (underneath some weight) I always looked not. But I was just saying how when I moved to Collingwood and gained a bit - something positive happened on the fitness end. I hated working out downstairs (light issues) so I bought Jillian's DVD (boost your metabolism???) that is no weights but EVERYTHING is full body weight. And my body changed. Didn't lose weight or size (probably because of the change in walking) BUT have hamstrings that were not visible etc.

AND we talked about a guy who concentrated on the weight part of exercising more than cardio - moved to Miami - saw all the runners - and started. Was all excited. And at first he became smaller a bit (muscle change) but then suddenly he noticed that he had a stomach for the first time in his entire life and no matter what he did could not get rid of it. Went back concentrating on weights and gone.

And talks about how I'm seeing more and more and more of skinny fat. Women who are small - might even be skinny - might even run but skinny fat. And how I can't go there at all. Why? I don't like it. But because I am older and skin can't just jump back and I will look fat even at a small size (to me anyway). I simply can't afford that look.

But all this talk has nothing to do with YOUTH. The young. Let us not be confused by youth fitness stories. They can bounce between cardio based and anaerobic base and look good with both. Change their body type instantly with no tough decisions. Age - especially 45 - brings on choices needing to be made.

And we were talking about my favourite fitness book FIT OR FAT and the premise of the book was the author's weight. He was so proud and smug that his weight never ever changed. 160 in college. 160 at age 25 - age 30 age 35 and then suddenly same weight and none of his clothes fit and he was instantly confused. And then began to understand that he has lost major muscle but gained tons of fat weight and therefore stayed the same scale weight but totally different body.

So loving the synchronicity of life right now. With all of us on here. I really like it's flying at a warped speed.Just some examples. I can't shut up with Liz. I truly feel big lessons learned. And now you and I are facing some interesting choices. And Amy - although she's not on here - has talked that she loves her running but wants to work on fitness (solidness) as well now. I truly feel that it's a magical time for ALL OF US here. I know I sound totally weird but I feel it. :rotfl2:
 
Okay - first I feel like this is a vulnerable essay :goodvibes - truly - I'm educated enough to know there are endless passionate debates about all of this in the fitness world.

So I don't want to debate something on here just to debate it. It's an age old debate that no one will ever agree on.

However, this are not my thoughts. These are really results not thoughts from two different people - Jean and I. And we didn't look for all this - it just kind of happened.

First - some points:

I'm not talking fitness - only about weight loss and size loss. I've gained fitness without losing weight or size

I'm not talking youth - youth can be 20 and have a 85% HR at 170!!! And youth can be undertraining in an instant.


I'm not talking hard core athletes of any age or BL contestants. One they have people or themselves to get proper nutrients - proper calories - massages etc. And as for BL at any age if you exercise for seven hours a day well who the heck cares where your HR is :rotfl2: - you'll lose

I'm aware that 220 calculation is not 100% at all. And that every body is different and everyone has a different resting HR and that should be factored in for sure (I keep forgeting to check mine and punch it in to the calculation

BACKGROUND

This happened by chance. I was never a huge believer in HR monitoring. Most of my weight came off without one and without a scale. However, at some point I bought one - and I certainly didn't follow it with any sense of dedication b/c I knew it was not 100% because of the purple blurb above. It was more used as a curiosity more than anything. And I was more of a believer in exertion scale of 1-10. But then it broke (battery I mean) - my HR - and I never replaced it and then lost it through the moves and never replaced it.

Then Jean and I moved to Collingwood - didn't change our workouts or food and both gained.

Jean's an athlete (she's 50 in mere days just to put an age issue on everything re: hormones - 40s issues with weight). And she had never gained like this. So we sat down and I said "Jean the only difference between here and there is the natural exercise of downtown living - so there is something there - why don't you walk more and see".

She was doing her usual before - wind sprints etc and jogging. She hates running long distances. And nothing was moving.

So she added walking and really concentrated mostly on that - and did an hour a day. Once in awhile she did a high intensity but mainly walking.

She lost - not so much on the scale (some) but clothes that she bought for the weight gain were hanging. And it happened quickly.

I ADORE walking. But destination walking - not timed. And I was scared to change my workouts. So she lost and I stayed or gained at bit. And this was around surgery so I couldn't work out for weeks anyway.
 
LAST SIX MONTHS

So I moved back downtown. And healed from surgery and was so optimistic about it all. And worked out like I did in the past to lose. And I was losing.2 and then .6 and then a pound for weeks and months. And there is nothing more frustrating than working out and getting nowhere. And forget the scale none of my clothes were any different. And I was perplexed. And more than frustrated and really thought it's the 40s. Something changed around 42 and thought "is this it?". And this all worked five years ago. So WT H?

But no scale loss or size loss did not mean no fitness gain

One day I was in the library and I came across a magazine with sh!t name???? Gilmore Girl now Parenthood. Anyway the headline talked how HR monitoring changed her life. And I read it. She was always an athlete had become very frustrated (and happened to be near our age) and her trainer talked about keeping all her workouts somewhere between 60 and 85% - hers all now between 70 and 85% and never going over. It was a trainer saying this to her.

And I thought "God here we go again - one only loses at the lower end - blah blah blah...." :rotfl2: Whatever.

But I kept reading it over and over and it wouldn't leave me. A synchronicity kind of feeling.

And it had a 30 minute interval workout attached. And it was insanely low. It went something like this 55% recovery minute - 60% on - RECOVERY minute and up and up and up until you reached 85% in ten minutes and then back down the scale and back up until you reached three times over and 30 minutes.

So I thought WT H and bought a new HR monitor. Did my old intervals and realized I spent TONS of time in the 150s, 160s, 170s etc. Not because I was unfit. Because I pushed myself like a maniac and enjoyed that kind of high intensity workout. Some of it was weight based and I would fly up anaerobically and then go nuts on the cardio part. I could take it but now it wasn't giving results.

So we followed the article.

Jean and I tried it and were in WT H hysterics. :rotfl2: It seemed like we weren't even exercising. :lmao: We weren't used to slow at all. I think I actually laughed out loud the first time.

I threw out the 55% - can never get back down. :rotfl: And my numbers are 114 - 123 - 131 - 140 and 148 (for my age of 44 - have to change it in May). My down interval I just say "lower than the up interval and call it a day".

I did it for an hour and for awhile I was in ego mode. This is slow and insane. THe 140 and 148 were okay though. Jean's is even lower numbers b/c she's older.

Jean LOST HUGE size instantly with it. Weight not so much. But she's 172-175 and looks like she's about 130 tops. She's 5'8". She looks skinny and small. And clothes were huge change.

I couldn't tell because just after I started in December I got really sick for three weeks or more. Ended up to be an ear infection and every single time I tried to workout I got worse.

But now I'm on it. I don't even let my weights day go much over my 85% anymore. Which doesn't make sense b/c weights should be anaerobic. Now I just shuffle for a bit to get it out of the 150s - 160s and continue on.

At first I was embarrassed in my gym to do it. And now I don't care. I've lost every week. But even more importantly - size is lowering suddenly. And diet has not changed.

So two people - changes.

My conclusions:

You can't think about the past with this. At 20 85% is 170. THEY/WE had to push ourselves. Now we simply don't.

I never told any of you this - but often with hard workouts I would get muscle how do I put it? NOt normal pain - but a stress in the muscle - heavy feeling (not the good one muscle exhaustion which I ADORE) and it stopped a restful sleep at times - IT HASN'T HAPPENED ONCE since I've kept under 148 . Not once.

We can't let our age bring on ego. I'm getting great workouts with advanced body weight moves but I do now stop and shuffle in between if I've gone too high in HR - before I just pushed and pushed and pushed.

Why did my workouts work for size loss before? Because I was younger so much closer to not going over 85%

I still believe hormones of the 40s makes a difference despite all this.

And many believe high intensity should be a shortened workout or you'll overexert your engine and will pay for it and I believe it.
 
I interrupt my own reading to say: Lauren Graham. Her name is Lauren Graham - Loreli on Gilmore Girls, Sarah on Parenthood. I adore her. Saw her as Adelaide in Guys & Dolls on Broadway. (that was the day of Beccas safety cone proclaimation. :rotfl:)


ok. back to reading.
 
And there is nothing more frustrating than working out and getting nowhere. And forget the scale none of my clothes were any different. And I was perplexed. And more than frustrated and really thought it's the 40s. Something changed around 42 and thought "is this it?". And this all worked five years ago. So WT H?

Precisely!

(note: I adore my HR monitor, and for nearly 10 years I have been as addicted to it as I am my scale.:laughing:)

An additional personal obeservation: When I workout with a higher HR for an extended period of time (as in mega cardio days for example) I am hungrier than when I work out lower in my target HR range. Yes, I burn more calories in that one particular workout, but I think the after effects lead to increased appetite (real, not percieved hunger) for at least an entire day, sometimes carrying over to the day after as well.

hrmpf. And I have a 10 mile run on my training schedule for tomorrow :crazy2:
 
Ronda - do you wear compression shorts while running? I'm looking into it for my hip/IT band and would love input if you have any! :goodvibes
 
I've been thinking of picking up a HR monitor just to see-- I don't believe the machines at the gym one bit when they say I'm somewhere. I am really glad to see that they're worth it. I wonder if stress getting your heart rate going would also help with weight loss :) I might have missed this since I'm at work, but are there any brand recommendations?

I've been a bit absent between work being super busy and then a few surprise visitors last week for my birthday-- it was really nice to have some familiar faces around, except they all brought and left treats at my house. How on EARTH does one not indulge in the leftover half of one of the best red velvet cakes I think I've ever eaten when it's just sitting in your fridge, taunting. I'm fighting the power to go face first into it like a toddler to show that cake who's boss.
 
I interrupt my own reading to say: Lauren Graham. Her name is Lauren Graham - Loreli on Gilmore Girls, Sarah on Parenthood. I adore her. Saw her as Adelaide in Guys & Dolls on Broadway. (that was the day of Beccas safety cone proclaimation. :rotfl:)


ok. back to reading.

So funny. :rotfl2:

And by the way Nancy - she did 90 minute workouts with her heart rate never going over the 85% because she needed to get it off quickly. I bet she could do that because it wasn't ever in anaerobic range. I don't like it but then again I'm not at goal. :lmao:

Precisely!

(note: I adore my HR monitor, and for nearly 10 years I have been as addicted to it as I am my scale.:laughing:)

An additional personal obeservation: When I workout with a higher HR for an extended period of time (as in mega cardio days for example) I am hungrier than when I work out lower in my target HR range. Yes, I burn more calories in that one particular workout, but I think the after effects lead to increased appetite (real, not percieved hunger) for at least an entire day, sometimes carrying over to the day after as well.

hrmpf. And I have a 10 mile run on my training schedule for tomorrow :crazy2:

Oh I forgot to tell you - training for the marathon - now is not the time to get frustrated with the scale Nancy. Many people talk about gaining when training (not that you will or are) IF they are people who worked out more intensely (higher HR I mean) in their regular workouts. Oprah said this happened to her and Bob Greene said it made perfect sense. Another proof that our body reacts strongly to changes.

And absolutely on the higher intensity - hunger. It's the whole premise of the book FIT or FAT - that we need to not think calories in and calories out ONLY for getting fit. High intensity makes one build their furnace. Better furnace more fat loss/burning hours and hours and hours after the workout. Obviously I follow way too many celebrities - Pamela Anderson said she quit weights (anaerobically done) because she was ravenous for food and couldn't stop eating. :lmao:

I am usually up to the 75% to 85% anyway with at least half my workouts. I would like to fit in some kind of HIT program (very intense I mean) for 15-20 minutes once a week. And do weights in the normal way. Maybe I'll wait until I'm closer to goal to experiment.

But that's my problems with working out. I love so many choices. I'm blessed like that. And I get frustrated when I can't fit things in - especially pilates or ballet based - I get scared because my weight loss slows down.

And make constant changes b/c of my dam@ legs. They get so big working out and don't often look fit. Okay "AT LEAST I HAVE LEGS!!!!!!!!!!".

I've lost and everything is looser. My pant legs. Nope. Maybe even tighter. lasdkjfl;sdkjf;alsdkjf;fd. Always bigger when I workout consistently.
 
Nancy, I wouldn't call them compression shorts. It's a tights fit, probably a 7-8" inseam. From Under Armour. I know people swear by CW-X compression clothing. Pricey, but good for what ails you, they say.

I ran outside this morning for the first time since the marathon. So much better than the TM. So much. I'd spent too much time on the TM before the race, too. Hopefully the weather will stay mild. Still looking for a training target. Thinking about the Chicago marathon.

DGF and I went to St Louis this weekend. It's tough. Her mom is weaker and more confused than our visit two weeks ago. There is a care team meeting this afternoon that DGF's sister will attend. One of her brothers will call in, too. When she was in rehab after breaking her elbow two years ago the staff would come around and ask her if she wanted something to help her sleep. Who doesn't? The ambien really doped her up. Once that stopped she rallied quickly. I hope it's that simple.

Ronda
 
I've been thinking of picking up a HR monitor just to see-- I don't believe the machines at the gym one bit when they say I'm somewhere. I am really glad to see that they're worth it. I wonder if stress getting your heart rate going would also help with weight loss :) I might have missed this since I'm at work, but are there any brand recommendations?

I've been a bit absent between work being super busy and then a few surprise visitors last week for my birthday-- it was really nice to have some familiar faces around, except they all brought and left treats at my house. How on EARTH does one not indulge in the leftover half of one of the best red velvet cakes I think I've ever eaten when it's just sitting in your fridge, taunting. I'm fighting the power to go face first into it like a toddler to show that cake who's boss.

Happy Birthday Rhianna!!!

Loved the "like a toddler to show that cake who's boss". :rotfl2:

Mine have always been Polar. This one is New Balance. However, for me the choice has always been I want simple. I HATE all the extras they put on them sometimes. But maybe that's my personality. And I always search for chest strap. Chest straps fell out of vogue for awhile but I prefer.

The machines are off at times. Mine is 3 points higher than my HR monitor. And the two can warp each other at times.

And HR is way more dependable when you insert your resting HR (the minute you wake up - still in bed). I've never done this though - never remember.



Nancy, I wouldn't call them compression shorts. It's a tights fit, probably a 7-8" inseam. From Under Armour. I know people swear by CW-X compression clothing. Pricey, but good for what ails you, they say.

I ran outside this morning for the first time since the marathon. So much better than the TM. So much. I'd spent too much time on the TM before the race, too. Hopefully the weather will stay mild. Still looking for a training target. Thinking about the Chicago marathon.

DGF and I went to St Louis this weekend. It's tough. Her mom is weaker and more confused than our visit two weeks ago. There is a care team meeting this afternoon that DGF's sister will attend. One of her brothers will call in, too. When she was in rehab after breaking her elbow two years ago the staff would come around and ask her if she wanted something to help her sleep. Who doesn't? The ambien really doped her up. Once that stopped she rallied quickly. I hope it's that simple.

Ronda

Ronda - sighing.:hug: So sorry to hear that.

Hopefully it is a med issue. They had my mom doped up once - it was UGLY. I was like a tiger. My father pissed me off - he's from the generation that just goes with the doctors. Meanwhile his wife went form alert to .........

Anyway - hopefully it all changes.
 
Oh and I forgot to say I think that skinny/small looks fantastic on some bodies. Kristin Wigg rings a bell. If you're meant to be that well it looks great. No argument from me.

Just not me. My body type. And certainly not at this age.

And I'm typing so much because I'm stressed to the max and this helps. :goodvibes
 
I've been thinking of picking up a HR monitor just to see

I've only ever had Polar products. LOVE them.

How on EARTH does one not indulge in the leftover half of one of the best red velvet cakes I think I've ever eaten when it's just sitting in your fridge, taunting. I'm fighting the power to go face first into it like a toddler to show that cake who's boss.

First Happy Birthday :cheer2:. Now, give yourself a gift and throw out the cake. I'm not kidding. Dump coffee grounds or something on it if you need to, but throw.it.out. I am not a fan of silly little slogans ("nothing tastes as good as thin feels". I call B.S. on that one:laughing:) BUT, here's one for you anyway.....it's better to WASTE it then to WAIST it

Did you throw it out yet? yeah. do it now :thumbsup2.


Pamela Anderson said she quit weights (anaerobically done) because she was ravenous for food and couldn't stop eating. :lmao:

yeah, ok. as if my issue is all my excess going to my B00BS :rotfl2:


But that's my problems with working out. I love so many choices. I'm blessed like that. And I get frustrated when I can't fit things in - especially pilates or ballet based - I get scared because my weight loss slows down.

I love choices too. And variety! OH! Did I mention that Erin now has a heavy bag? :woohoo: I beat the ever-lovin'-stuffin' out of it last week. LOVE it.:lovestruc And she has the horrific Jacobs Ladder. Torture device that thing. Bleh.

I know people swear by CW-X compression clothing. Pricey, but good for what ails you, they say.

I ordered the CW-X Stabilyx last night. I ordered them fro Amazon as they had a pretty good price (relatively speaking that is) They should be here Wednesday. I hope they fit ok - I fell squarely between two sizes, so I ordered both with the hopes that one fits and I'll return the other. I can't wait to try them out.

Thinking about the Chicago marathon.

:thumbsup2

DGF and I went to St Louis this weekend.

:grouphug: I hope it's that simple too, Ronda. I'll be thinking of you.

And HR is way more dependable when you insert your resting HR (the minute you wake up - still in bed). I've never done this though - never remember.

:lmao: So, once I was trying to determine my REAL resting heart-rate. As in my SLEEPING heart rate. (My trainer at the time wanted to know). So, I wore my Polar chest strap to bed. Stephen had the watch part and woke up in the middle of the night to check it. Apparently I had lost "connection" and it read "0". :eek: Freaked him out just a little bit. :laughing: But, when he finally DID get a reading it was INSANE. Like 30-something. Low, low, low.
 














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