Teacher Vent

[dipin]

She also knows that when she doesn't do what she is supposed to do, we let her take her lumps.

Apparently you dont think that applies to you.

 

[Teacher03]

Nope...just what I was told by DD12 and DH.

Then she gave your husband and daughter excellent written instructions?

 

[lillygator]

sorry OP, you all dropped the ball.

 

[TotalSnowWhite]

So you expect/demand clear, concise and prompt communication from her, but when she expects communication from you it's OK for you to make it a low priority?

I keep waiting to see the response to this and other similar comments...

 

[Stacerita]

sorry OP, you all dropped the ball.

And trying to put the blame everywhere else.

 

[Bluestars]

After skimming through the thread, it looks like your daughter was given an assignment, didn't turn it in, and was given a zero. Ok. Next time she needs to make sure it gets completed. I don't see how this is the teacher's fault.

My son has papers that need to be signed sometimes. It doesn't matter if they are for a grade or not, everything gets completed and turned in on time. I wouldn't blame the teacher. I feel sorry for teachers sometimes.

Maybe next time your daughter will make sure things get completed in time. If my son needs papers signed, it's up to him to let me know and follow up if it's not done.

 

[JoiseyMom]

Let me get this straight. You are angry that your husband works too much
Nope
, you are angry that he is the only one capable of looking at a website (interesting, considering the amt of time you are spending on a website yourself)
Nope
, you are angry that the teacher is young
Nope
, you are angry that the school hasn't taken your daughter's 504 seriously (has absolutely nothing to do with the current issues but perhaps thrown in to build up the case you don't have?),
Frustrated...not angry

you are angry that your snowflake isn't challenged enough in school because she's so much smarter than the other students,
again, frustrated not angry that she isn't being challenged in math..and my DD is not a snowflake

and you're angry that the teacher doesn't print on all assignments that a grade is given. IMO, it's a no brainer for most intelligent people to know that assignment=grade.

Well then I guess I am not intelligent since a form to be signed has never been considered an assignment in all the years I have been a parent (25)

And because of all this, the teacher is now subjected to an angry hateful email telling her how she is not doing her job?

LMAO...umm...where did you see angry hateful email, telling her she isn;t doing her job??? My DH's email went point for point for her email. It wasn't angry or hateful...it might be considered harsh...but it wasn't mean and not one word of it was untruthful. I would have been more diplomatic then my husband.

Perhaps you should logoff and go check to see if your daughter needs help with her homework so she is not penalized again for you and your husband dropping the ball.

LOL...well I don't know about your child..but mine was in bed almost 2 hours ago!! And yes....she finished all her hw. And I dropped nothing.

ETA: Forgot one! Also angry about not being able to pay for private school which would solve all the world's problems, evidently. Oh, and MIL is frustrated, too, which somehow supports the arguments.

Again...LMAO... where did you read anywhere that I was angry about not being able to pay for private school??? I would love to send them to private school..just as I would love to take 3 vacations a year, and not worry about money....and about a billion other things. That doesn't make me angry because I can't do them. LOL...I am frustrated at my kids schools.. which all the people from this area (except those of us who are from NYC) thing are great. NYC schools were much better.

Yes, MIL who knows what the law and schools are supposed to do, and what good teachers are supposed to do is very frustrated with the shcools out here. She helps DD with some of her assignments and is cosntantly surprised at how poorly things are handled. Being she is the expert, as a special ed teacher in NY, and as a parent that dealt wtih the NJ system for her own kids... It supports the argument that the schools has dropped the ball with both kids on many occassions.

For the middle shcool it;s just another kid...for us it;s a continuation of us having to fight for services for our kids. The teams that handle these kids are constantly not doing their jobs..so yeah..we are disappointed and we are gunning for bear. Oh well...I will not apolgize for that. When dd was in 6th grade her teachers were never informed about her 504!! I don;t think it was fair that she comes home in tears for failing a test she didn't have time to finish because the adminstrator of 504's didn;t bother to pass along DD's file. Nice way to start off a school year.

 

[TomLovesBecky]

Seems like your husband dropped the ball. Here's what I would have written, in the same situation:

Dear Miss Teacher,
I apologize for not returning the signed form indicating we had looked at the website with Daughter. Daughter did bring the form home and show us, the day the assignment was handed out, and I simply forgot/lost track of time/etc. I am returning the form signed today, and hope that you will consider not penalizing Daughter gradewise as it was solely my mistake for not taking the time to do it in the week allotted.
Sincerely,
Daughter's Mom

 

[bhaluvindisney]

Again, as I said previously..and I honestly don't care if you agree with me or not. Since it was just a form to be signed....not to him an assignment, it didn't go to the top of his list. Why...I don't know..I can't answer that, since I didn't make the call.

It's cool you don't care if I agree or not. It was a form that needed to be signed. Nothing more nothing less...it needed to be signed by the 9th and it wasn't. Those are the facts correct?
And DH doesn't take just five minutes to do anything that has to do with the internet. When it comes to a website his child has access too, he will be there a long while..which is why he probably put it aside. He also felt she will never go there, since she doesn't need math help.

Well maybe if DH doesn't take just 5 min for anything you BOTH should be involved.. so it's not just "his call" all the time and so that you can look at it and not take more than "just 5 min" to look at a website. I have kids in High School, Middle School and Elementary and regardless of what I think I do it and send it in BY the due date..of course that's just me. But honestly if it's that long of time for him then he needs to pass the buck to someone that doesn't take more than 5 min....of course just my teacher/parent experience talking here.
And no..the internet doesn't close...sometimes it crashes or is unavailable for certain reasons..but no it doesn't close.

Well yes that "could" happen but did it??? I mean the world could end but did it??? The SKY is falling.... the sky is falling.

He is upset because she is getting a zero for something he didn't do, and soething he didn't realized would be graded...and his email was not mean...it was going point for point back at what she had written. ANd yes, some might say harsh...

Well he could have avoided it OR he could have sent an apologetic email to the teacher instead of what it originally sounded like he sent.


And my DD has three very active adults who are busting their butts to make sure their DD has an advocate for her education, adn makes sure that they are doing what they can for her..and that she is doing her best. it is a joint effort with all her teachers, us, and her.

Well the busting their butts should have included signing a paper whether you thought it was graded or not.

We have had issues with this teacher and communication on several occassions. Each time we went back to have her 504 changed so that the issue wouldn't happen again. It is as frustrating for them as it is for us. We have a very bright child that is very difficult and we are all trying to have her succeed.

Well I have no idea why you are having issues with communication but I can see if you have the same attitude with teachers as you have had here with them they wouldn't really want to work with you.....nor would I.

I wish your children best of luck in their education!!!!

 

[JoiseyMom]

Yes, sure, that is true, but irrelevant as your DH put it aside anyway. Unless you're changing your story again...?

I've never changed my story at all. I never once said DH's email was hateful and cruel and everything under the sun. it was harsh, but to the point...and again..point for point from waht the teacher's email was.

 

[PrincessBelle94]

I keep waiting to see the response to this and other similar comments...

I know, we probably won't get one because we didn't agree like we were supposed to .

 

[hentob]

Yes, MIL who knows what the law and schools are supposed to do, and what good teachers are supposed to do is very frustrated with the shcools out here. She helps DD with some of her assignments and is cosntantly surprised at how poorly things are handled.

Really? Because here you describe your MIL as a woman who does your daughter’s work FOR...


http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1408944


"Then my mil calls, and says that I can bring her over there this afternoon, and she can work on the project with DD. On one hand I like this on the other I don't, because I feel mil does more of the work, and in the long run that doesn't help DD."

 

[castleview]

If we had the funds, DD and DS would be in a private school. Private schools here run as much as colleges!!

Do you honestly think a private school is going to abide by a 504, an IEP, and put up with a child that is so bright (but too bored) to do her work?

 

[Rebelmom67]

Well my dh's priorties was the work his clients needed to get done. As he is self employed, that means keeping a roof over his head. He gets no paid sick days or vacation days. If he takes an hour off for a doctors appt, that's an hour he doesnt' get paid. A signed form for looking at a website?? Nope...i don't blame him.

Yeah, that would have taken sooooo much time out of his day. Seriously, you guys were in the wrong. I hope your husband didn't make too much of an *** out of himself in the email.

 

[JoiseyMom]

Your DH is not the only working parent out there It is called being a responsible parent It's life, my dear. It is embarrassing to make excuses like you just made. I am sure other parents work just as hard as your DH and managed to sign a paper.

From some past posts, I can tell you are not a fan of teachers

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2031893

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1446902

(This one you call the principal a not so nice word)


http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1403562

And it goes on and on and on

Ok--I am going to get a bit Dr. Phil on you right now

I am actually baffled by many of your posts. I think you are overwhelmed and want to blame others (mainly teachers) for what goes on in your home.

Please don’t do that. Your children will just follow the pattern of not taking responsibility for their actions.

Good luck to your family.

LMAO....why is there always one diser that looks up previous posts by people.... OMG!!! To freaking funny!!

 

[bhaluvindisney]

Do you honestly think a private school is going to abide by a 504, an IEP, and put up with a child that is so bright (but too bored) to do her work?

Well of course because PUBLIC school teachers don't write GRADED ASSIGNMENT on every paper and are out to get the kids on a 504 and their parents.....apparently.

 

[Bluestars]

I agree with sending the apologetic e-mail. I know it's too late now, but it would have gone a long way in possibly convincing the teacher to at least give a 50%. Kindness and admitting when you are wrong can go a long way. But there is probably no way the teacher will ever change the grade if the parent comes across as it is somehow the teacher's fault.

I don't think playing hardball with a teacher will accomplish much. I have three kids and have been friendly with ALL of their teachers throughout the last 20 years. I made it a point to have a good relationship with every one of them. We never had a bad year. Some teachers actually bent over backwards in order for me to not have to medicate my oldest son when he was in elementary school. They were wonderful.

 

[PrincessBelle94]

LMAO....why is there always one diser that looks up previous posts by people.... OMG!!! To freaking funny!!

I think avoiding your flames is even funnier

 

[hentob]

LMAO....why is there always one diser that looks up previous posts by people.... OMG!!! To freaking funny!!

Because that One Diser doesn't like being lied to Um, yeah. You are pro teacher Why, you never complain

Takes seconds to out an untruthful person.

It is worth my time

 

[jwsqrdplus2]

LMAO....why is there always one diser that looks up previous posts by people.... OMG!!! To freaking funny!!

Because someone has to remind people of their previous words when what they are saying now contradicts the past.

Do people change? Yes

Have you? Nope!