Denise W
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Who is Taye Diggs or what shoes has he been on.
You've really never heard of her before? She's a HUGE Broadway celebrity!
Thanks for the lecture but its not necessary because as I said, I was already reamed out by Idina Menzel fans in the previous thread a while back. (my apologies, I didnt actually read everything you wrote).But she IS famous, as is Taye Diggs. However, being famous doesn't nec. mean that EVERYONE has to have heard of you, just that a really substantial number of people have, because you are notable enough to consistently be on the radar of your country's mainsteam press for your accomplishments.
Infamy actually is more likely to draw more widespread attention than true fame, so the average artist probably wouldn't really want to be so well known that nearly everyone everywhere would recognize his name. That tends to be the sorry privilege of the Hitlers of the world.
There is a joke in Good Will Hunting that highlights the relative nature of fame. In a discussion regarding fame with a respected mathematician colleague, Robin Williams' psychologist character mentions that "in the 60's, a young man graduated from the University of Michigan, did some brilliant work in mathematics, specifically bounded harmonic functions. Then he went to Berkekey, was assistant professor. Then he moved to Montana, blew the competition away." The colleague doesn't recognize the description and asks the young prodigy's name. Williams tells him the name is Ted Kaczynski. The mathematician says he has never heard of him. So Williams asks the bartender who Ted Kaczynski is, and of course, the bartender instantly replies that he was the Unabomber. The point being that no mathematician, no matter how brilliant, is ever going to be as well known to the average man on the street as a convicted mad bomber will be.
The expectation that posters here would know who Menzel is isn't all that odd, given what we all have in common: we are Disney fans. Menzel has worked for Disney or ABC on several projects.
Thanks for the lecture but its not necessary because as I said, I was already reamed out by Idina Menzel fans in the previous thread a while back. (my apologies, I didnt actually read everything you wrote).
She didn't ream you out at allShe only pointed out that someone can be very famous and still not known by everyone.
Yes, she's a BIG STAR on Broadway and perhaps has a small following in the music industry. But to the general US population, she was an unknown before the Oscar mess.
Same with Sutton Foster, Cherry Jones, Laura Benanti, Kelli O'Hara et. al. Big names on Broadway, virtually unknown elsewhere.
I didn't read the link...did the ex-Mr. Adele Dazeem say nasty stuff?
Jim
On TV, he was recently starring in the show, Private Practice. It was a Grey's Anatomy spin-off.
But she IS famous, as is Taye Diggs. However, being famous doesn't nec. mean that EVERYONE has to have heard of you, just that a really substantial number of people have, because you are notable enough to consistently be on the radar of your country's mainsteam press for your accomplishments.
Infamy actually is more likely to draw more widespread attention than true fame, so the average artist probably wouldn't really want to be so well known that nearly everyone everywhere would recognize his name. That tends to be the sorry privilege of the Hitlers of the world.
There is a joke in Good Will Hunting that highlights the relative nature of fame. In a discussion regarding fame with a respected mathematician colleague, Robin Williams' psychologist character mentions that "in the 60's, a young man graduated from the University of Michigan, did some brilliant work in mathematics, specifically bounded harmonic functions. Then he went to Berkekey, was assistant professor. Then he moved to Montana, blew the competition away." The colleague doesn't recognize the description and asks the young prodigy's name. Williams tells him the name is Ted Kaczynski. The mathematician says he has never heard of him. So Williams asks the bartender who Ted Kaczynski is, and of course, the bartender instantly replies that he was the Unabomber. The point being that no mathematician, no matter how brilliant, is ever going to be as well known to the average man on the street as a convicted mad bomber will be.
The expectation that posters here would know who Menzel is isn't all that odd, given what we all have in common: we are Disney fans. Menzel has worked for Disney or ABC on several projects.
Really? Are all of my friends that far off of the mainstream? Pretty much everyone I know in the US knows who she is (and did before the Travolta thing)
I knew who Idina Menzel was, but had no clue who Taye Diggs was when I saw this thread. Then last night I was watching an old episode of Private Practice and saw the credits and the lightbulb went off.
I bet a lot fewer people knew the name Idina Menzel before Frozen. I really only know because my sister and her daughter were Wicked groupies for a long time.
Yes, exactly. If you arent a broadway fan, how would you know? Because of Enchanted?I've seen the movie and that name didnt ring a bell. I even saw Frozen and still had no clue. And I dont watch Glee. Maybe im clueless? I dunno.
But all the pieces came together (for me) when Travolta messed up her name. Lol.
Really? Are all of my friends that far off of the mainstream? Pretty much everyone I know in the US knows who she is (and did before the Travolta thing)
Really? Are all of my friends that far off of the mainstream? Pretty much everyone I know in the US knows who she is (and did before the Travolta thing)
It depends on what your interests are.
Do you know who won the last Heisman Trophy?
Nope--I fully admit I am totally ignorant of almost anything sports related. But I never assume that my having not heard of a sports figure means that the person is not famous or well known in the US. It means I like living in my little sports free (other than German soccer) bubble![]()
Yes, exactly. If you arent a broadway fan, how would you know? Because of Enchanted?I've seen the movie and that name didnt ring a bell. I even saw Frozen and still had no clue. And I dont watch Glee. Maybe im clueless? I dunno.
But all the pieces came together (for me) when Travolta messed up her name. Lol.
As for Taye Diggs, I know exactly who he is!
If you don't follow musical theatre, didn't much like Enchanted, don't like Glee, etc I can see where you would not know who she is (I don't know the names of a lot of big sports people). She WAS well known in though, so it is not strange that MANY people did know who she was.
I think the bigger point is that it was ODD that Travolta did not know the name of a huge presence in his own industry, and even ODDER that he didn't take the 5 minutes of prep needed to learn the name of who he would be introducing at the awards--and just relied on seeing it for the first time on cue cards. Very unprofessional.