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How the heck does this happen?

My wife and I have withholding set up as "Married - 0 exemptions". In addition, my wife tells her employer to take out an additional $10 per month for state income tax withholding.

At the end of the year, we get a $5000 refund from the IRS (not surprising, right?) but we owe money to Massachusetts!!!! How the heck is that possible!?!?!?!?
 
Why are you getting that much taken out to garner a $5,000 refund each year, that is a huge amount to have over deducted during the course of the year.
 
It was the reverse for us. We owe the feds $1100, but we're getting back $900 from the state. :confused3

I would REALLY like it if I could somehow make it come out even!
 
Why are you getting that much taken out to garner a $5,000 refund each year
We've been trying to "fix" the underwithholding for the state taxes... we owed the state about $1000 (and almost was subject to a fine).

I'd rather find a way of "fixing" all these without having to pay an accountant.
 

We have to pay $1600 to the IRS this year. Why? Because when I was unemployed I didn't have enough taken out. Gee let's see I was out of work. Do you think I might have needed that $200 a month to eat?
 
How the heck does this happen?

My wife and I have withholding set up as "Married - 0 exemptions". In addition, my wife tells her employer to take out an additional $10 per month for state income tax withholding.

At the end of the year, we get a $5000 refund from the IRS (not surprising, right?) but we owe money to Massachusetts!!!! How the heck is that possible!?!?!?!?

Please let me know when you figure it out. I usually manage to maneuver things so that we get a modest (less than $1000) back on our federal taxes but no matter what I do we always owe the lovely state of Maryland. One year, without changing any withholdings and no real change in income or dividends or anything, we managed to get money back from both. I wish I knew what I did that year!
 
That used to happen to us every year when we were living in MA. The balance due was never over $1000, though.
 
I think what we're going to try this year is have one of us put in one exemption (probably me) -- that should cut our federal refund next year but some amount. Then I think I'll have one of us do a lot more extra state withholding (probably my wife).
 
you livein taxachussets. i think that should answer your question.
 
Not really. You'd figure that if Massachusetts was worthy of the disrespectful description you ascribed to it, then they'd want their money sooner rather than later, eh?
 
Here is my deal I want 10.00 additional dollars held out of my check for both state and federal. My employers just won't do it. NO matter how many forms I fill out
 
Here is the procedure to calculate your withholding allowances very accurately. It is a long and involved process. To start off, you will need the following items.

A. IRS Publication 15, 2010 edition, Pages 37 and 39. Go to IRS.gov, download the pdf and print those two pages.
B. Copy of you most recent pay stub. It needs to show both current and year-to-date figres, as well as the number of exmptions claimed.
C. An estimate of what your 2010 tax will be.
D. Blank W-4 Forms (you can wait until you arer done, and then fill them in on irs.gov and print them after filled in to turn in to your employers).

1. Take the YTD withholding amounts.
2. Add to that the additional amount that woud be withheld until the time you turn in revised W-4s and they get processed into the payroll system.
3. Take the sum of 1. and 2. and subtract that from C. above. This is the amount you need to have withheld for the remainder of the year.
4. Divide the amount from 3. by the number of pay dates remaining in the year. This is the amount of withholding you will need per pay period untl the end of the year.
5. Look at the tables on Page 39 and select the table which applies to your status and pay frequency. Look at the table on page 37 and select the amount which applies to your pay frequency.
6. Look at your pay stub in the pay period (not YTD) columns.
6A. If it divides pre-tax and post-tax deductions you are in luck. You need to either take the gross amount and subtact the pre-tax deduction, or look for a taxable amount and select that.
6B. If it does not divide them out, you need to subtract any 401(k), HAS, pre-tax Health Insurance, or any other tax-deferred deductions from your gross pay. This will give you the taxable amount.
7. Now the test. Take your taxable income. Subtract the number of exemptions claimed, using the value from the table on Page 37. Look at the line in the table you are using and calculate the amount of withholding. This calculated amount should be within a couple of dollars on either side of wht they are actually taking out. If it is not very close try to ascertain what you did wrong.
(Note, if married, you can use either the married or single table for withholding computatiuons.)
(Additional note, if married. for the following, you can split the withholding any way you like as long as the total is what you got in Step 4 above.)
8. Now that you have a target withholding amount, you need to do a reverse computation using the table selected on Page 39 to see the dollar amount of gross pay which will give you the withholding you want.
9. Subtract the dollar amount computed in Step 8 from the Taxable Gross in Step 6. This is the value of the withholding allowances you need.
10. Subtract the result in step 9 from the amount in the table on Page 37 to get the number of allowances. Select the smaller number so that you will still be overwithheld.
11. Go to the W-4 and on the bottom of the form (which you turn in) put the result from Step 10 on line 5. Print the form, sign it, and turn it in.

It should be possible to do something similar for Massachussetts, but I don't know the source of their tax tables or how their withholding is computed.
 
I'm sure every state is different, but in PA there is a flat rate starting from the first dollar you earn, so employer withholding is exact for salary (not something we can adjust), and I pay quarterly estimated taxes for the unearned income - interest and dividends.
 
We got more back than that from the IRS and we owe the great state of Illinois about $350.00. With the mess that our state is in, I'm glad that I won't be waiting around for a refund from them.
 
won't your states let you do separate withholdings for state vs. fed? we did this when we lived in california b/c if you used the same for both you never failed to end up refunding from the feds but owing the state.
 
Do you always have so much extra withheld on the federal taxes??? if so, that might be your problem. When you did your taxes LAST year, you deducted the amount of taxes withheld on your MA state tax form (as taxes paid). This year, you had to "claim" the big refund (since you deducted it last year as taxes paid, but the taxes really weren't paid, because the feds sent it back to you) Therefore it looks like you made more money than what was withheld. Make sense???
 
I've been able to get my state tax withholding correct to the penny since I moved back to Texas. They have a very simple withholding formula that works great.

My federal taxes, on the other hand, are a nightmare. I finished my return in TurboTax last night and it came out to 61 pages with all the worksheets. The core return itself was 17 pages. That's just ridiculous.
 
I've been able to get my state tax withholding correct to the penny since I moved back to Texas. They have a very simple withholding formula that works great.

My federal taxes, on the other hand, are a nightmare. I finished my return in TurboTax last night and it came out to 61 pages with all the worksheets. The core return itself was 17 pages. That's just ridiculous.

Getting your state taxes to work out perfectly is easy in Texas as there is no state income tax!
 
Our state is like this too. Right now with what we spend on educational stuff for the kids that MN lets you deduct we are ok but once they are out of the house we will have to start paying into the state again. My income is so variable it is hard to plan so we usually over contribute during the year so we don't get socked with a huge bill and penalties during tax time.

Our overall tax burden is higher then "Taxachusetts" so I don't really feel sorry for you :lmao: Mass. isn't even in the top 20 for overall tax burden.

http://money.cnn.com/2009/04/10/pf/taxes/state_tax_rates/index.htm
 


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