Surge Question

[Heather07438]

I found this page on the link you provided:
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#cases_totalcases

Thanks. The addresses that are all listed in my google search no longer work. Maybe some addresses were recently changed?

I get this message like it does not exist:

"Hmm. We’re having trouble finding that site.

We can’t connect to the server at www.cdc.gov.

If that address is correct, here are three other things you can try:

Try again later.
Check your network connection.
If you are connected but behind a firewall, check that Firefox has permission to access the Web."

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

Not my area of CA, but just read this

https://www.ocregister.com/2020/12/10/some-orange-county-ambulances-with-patients-are-waiting-hours/

 

[barkley]

our statewide restrictions have been extended at minimum another 3 weeks as the numbers/deaths continue to climb. we are told that we have not fully experienced the thanksgiving surge as yet. the deaths are no longer largely the elderly-we have numbers across the board in all age categories, with younger and younger individuals being lost daily.

 

[mrodgers]

The numbers were at a all time high in July.
Can’t get much hotter than Florida in July

Evidence to add to prove her point. Everyone is indoors in Florida in July, thus the all time high. Everyone in cooler areas were outside. Now the cooler areas are cold and everyone is inside and spiking while people in Florida can comfortably go outside now. That was the point she was making.

 

[mrodgers]

Seriously? Yeah he died from Covid complications. Being 100 made that more likely. Do you not realize that there's no such thing as "dying from old age" ???


You can easily find that on the internet for whichever state you wish.

Point being he was quite old. Old people can die from falling and breaking their hip. I don't think I have as much of a chance of dying because I fell and broke my hip. That's the kind of information we need, not just the death count. What are the underlying conditions and ages of the deaths? All we hear is the count ticker to instill fear.

 

[GreatLakes]

Our governor was on TV yesterday talking about the surge and invited medical leaders from across the state to weigh in on the recommendation to stay home, skip holiday get togethers, keep working from home, and only go out for necessities.

I hear at least as much if not more about the increasing numbers as I do the vaccine.

 

[barkley]

That's the kind of information we need, not just the death count. What are the underlying conditions and ages of the deaths? All we hear is the count ticker to instill fear.

we get that information for our county every day on the news-positive and negative test numbers, number of deaths/age ranges of deaths/if underlying condition existed.

 

[SaintsManiac]

Point being he was quite old. Old people can die from falling and breaking their hip. I don't think I have as much of a chance of dying because I fell and broke my hip. That's the kind of information we need, not just the death count. What are the underlying conditions and ages of the deaths? All we hear is the count ticker to instill fear.

Not sure where you're getting your information from, but that's not all "we hear."

 

[dvcgirl67]

Point being he was quite old. Old people can die from falling and breaking their hip. I don't think I have as much of a chance of dying because I fell and broke my hip. That's the kind of information we need, not just the death count. What are the underlying conditions and ages of the deaths? All we hear is the count ticker to instill fear.

I truly do not understand the disconnect here. Covid-19 is currently the leading cause of death in the United States. These people are not dying at home like many cancer patients receiving hospice care or suddenly as after a heart attack or stroke. Or several years after a broken hip due to immobility. These people are dying because they have Covid-19. It is not normal for ICUs to be stuffed to the gills with patients this sick on ventilators. It is not normal for ICUs to be losing 4-5 patients per day on a 20 bed unit. That's happening all over this nation....right now. Every day. Yes, it's true that many Covid patient deaths are people who are older with pre-existing conditions. And it's also true that the great majority of those people would still be here had they not contracted Covid.

 

[ronandannette]

3,214 people died from Covid yesterday.

I know that in Wisconsin testing is down. I wonder if Illinois is the same. I also wonder if things are getting better or if people are simply not getting tested.

Does your state report the percentage of positive tests? That’s probably a better indicator than overall cases. Different regions do different numbers of tests so it’s hard to compare directly. For example, the province next to us (British Columbia) is currently performing about half the number of tests per week that Alberta is. Of course their overall case count is lower but their percentage of positive tests is similar.

 

[Farro]

3,214 people died from Covid yesterday.

I know that in Wisconsin testing is down. I wonder if Illinois is the same. I also wonder if things are getting better or if people are simply not getting tested.

It was down for a few days - but still over 70,000. Now it's back to around 90,000 -110,000 a day.
Even when testing was down, the percent of positive was also decreasing along with hospitalizations, which is good.

Now will it stay that way? That's the big question...

 

[FlightlessDuck]

Well, our governor just closed down inside dining and gyms for the next 3 weeks...

 

[FlightlessDuck]

Point being he was quite old. Old people can die from falling and breaking their hip. I don't think I have as much of a chance of dying because I fell and broke my hip. That's the kind of information we need, not just the death count. What are the underlying conditions and ages of the deaths? All we hear is the count ticker to instill fear.

See, my entire thought process is that I don't want to get COVID and give it to someone likely to die from it. I'm not afraid of dying personally, I'm afraid that I will infect people I'm close to that are in a higher risk category

 

[SaintsManiac]

See, my entire thought process is that I don't want to get COVID and give it to someone likely to die from it. I'm not afraid of dying personally, I'm afraid that I will infect people I'm close to that are in a higher risk category

This. I just wish everyone saw it this way.

 

[mousefan73]

Is it me or have we not been hearing much about the covid surge lately?

Before Thanksgiving it was all gloom and doom and how we were heading for a dark winter and cases will skyrocket and people will die etc. It was at the point where the news was causing a lot of anxiety and stress. After Thanksgiving there was the "well now we are seeing the rise in cases due to holiday gatherings." But even that has dropped off. I am not hearing the dire predictions on the news or the warnings not to gather at Christmas like we heard the warning for Thanksgiving gatherings.

I guess maybe they are now focused on the vaccine?

Depends on what news channel you watch. CNN has a live ticker and its the top of the hour lead story along with the vaccine, how the numbers and deaths are increasing. Fox I read online only mentioned it 2x I believe, briefly as a side note on the morning shows.( I watch both lately and the difference is night and day, they rarely mention Covid deaths, only business shutdowns. ). I was watching Harris Faulkner's Show ( kinda like the View with many hosts) and one host called out that we have been talking for 43 minutes and nobody has mentioned that yesterday over 3000 people have died.. I dont mean this is any political way.. Just fact. I am furloughed and have been watching almost too much news.. I have just noticed in comparing CNN and FOX both are heavily reporting on vaccine news and the storyline is actually similar. But one favors reporting on current death and hospitlization rates, overcrowding and the other on the business side of shutdowns and doesnt even really mention the deaths per day.

I good friend of mine's parents both got infected at Thanksgiving.. At least they assume. They are in FL and only her parents were with her aunt and uncle.. Aunt and her parents got Covid. Both were hospitalized this week. Her mom got redenmisvir and the antibody cocktai. Most likely saved her life as even preCovid was on Oxygen and not so well. Both parents go released yesterday but to a rehab/care center. We were both wondering is they are pushing older non-ICU risk patients out of the hosptials and to nursing/rehab care centers to open beds... My friend is trying to figure that out. She lives in a dfferent state and mentioned getting Infos was hard, espec ially as her parents were separated while in the hospital. Oddly her Uncle is negative.

 

[easyas123]

Oddly her Uncle is negative

We know someone who, along with his teenage cousin & wife, made the drive from east coast to Louisiana for Thanksgiving. They were in a car together all the way down - with family the whole week, and again in the car together for a day or two on the way home...husband and teenage son came up positive (both same symptoms, high fever, flu like aches & pains, headache & sore throat for just 24 hours, then it was over. Husband then developed a mild rash on his back), but wife - despite testing when they did and testing a few days later, and then testing a week later, came up negative each time and feeling fine. How she didn't get it, I can't say! But it sure is random.
As others have mentioned above, I'm not so worried with my health if I get it, but I'd be beside myself if I gave it to someone, and worse what if they got seriously ill? I just don't want to be responsible for giving it to anyone, even if it is by accident or coincidentally.

 

[mousefan73]

We know someone who, along with his teenage cousin & wife, made the drive from east coast to Louisiana for Thanksgiving. They were in a car together all the way down - with family the whole week, and again in the car together for a day or two on the way home...husband and teenage son came up positive (both same symptoms, high fever, flu like aches & pains, headache & sore throat for just 24 hours, then it was over. Husband then developed a mild rash on his back), but wife - despite testing when they did and testing a few days later, and then testing a week later, came up negative each time and feeling fine. How she didn't get it, I can't say! But it sure is random.
As others have mentioned above, I'm not so worried with my health if I get it, but I'd be beside myself if I gave it to someone, and worse what if they got seriously ill? I just don't want to be responsible for giving it to anyone, even if it is by accident or coincidentally.

I think once this is all past history we will know on this stuff. Why she didnt get it.. maybe she had it in the past. Maybe she had some vaccine in the past that programmed her immune response, maybe her blood group.. maybe just luck.. kwim?

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

We know someone who, along with his teenage cousin & wife, made the drive from east coast to Louisiana for Thanksgiving. They were in a car together all the way down - with family the whole week, and again in the car together for a day or two on the way home...husband and teenage son came up positive (both same symptoms, high fever, flu like aches & pains, headache & sore throat for just 24 hours, then it was over. Husband then developed a mild rash on his back), but wife - despite testing when they did and testing a few days later, and then testing a week later, came up negative each time and feeling fine. How she didn't get it, I can't say! But it sure is random.
As others have mentioned above, I'm not so worried with my health if I get it, but I'd be beside myself if I gave it to someone, and worse what if they got seriously ill? I just don't want to be responsible for giving it to anyone, even if it is by accident or coincidentally.

Back in early Feb we went to the Super Bowl Parade and Rally on a Wednesday. My husband, myself, my sister-in-law and her boyfriend went together. Sister-in-law and boyfriend live together, my husband and I live together.

Sister-in-law's boyfriend tested for influenza B on Saturday and was given Tamiflu with sister-in-law given some medication in case she got sick as well, I came down with what mirrored exactly the flu on that Friday but I did not get tested, on that following Tuesday my husband came down with what mirrored exactly the flu though he did not get tested. Sister-in-law never got sick, not at all.

Normally my husband and I don't pass things to each other often. I am susceptible to sinus related issues due to my allergies my husband is not. He can have a cold and I won't get it at all, I'll have a sinus related issue and he's not getting it. Sometimes our immune systems just fight something off better than another time.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I think once this is all past history we will know on this stuff. Why she didnt get it.. maybe she had it in the past. Maybe she had some vaccine in the past that programmed her immune response, maybe her blood group.. maybe just luck.. kwim?

This stuff happens all the time in real life long before covid.

 

[dvcgirl67]

We know someone who, along with his teenage cousin & wife, made the drive from east coast to Louisiana for Thanksgiving. They were in a car together all the way down - with family the whole week, and again in the car together for a day or two on the way home...husband and teenage son came up positive (both same symptoms, high fever, flu like aches & pains, headache & sore throat for just 24 hours, then it was over. Husband then developed a mild rash on his back), but wife - despite testing when they did and testing a few days later, and then testing a week later, came up negative each time and feeling fine. How she didn't get it, I can't say! But it sure is random.
As others have mentioned above, I'm not so worried with my health if I get it, but I'd be beside myself if I gave it to someone, and worse what if they got seriously ill? I just don't want to be responsible for giving it to anyone, even if it is by accident or coincidentally.

Right, and this was likely an unnecessary trip right now. These people did not have to take that trip. Two of them got Covid, and likely infected others on their way back to the East Coast. if they stopped anywhere to eat, use a rest room...etc. They are lucky....they survived, but it's also quite possible that they infected others along the way, and that someone down the line will die in the coming weeks as a result of that unnecessary trip. Every action has a consequence, and sometimes we may never even learn what those consequences are. That seems to me to be more evident than ever right now. Does it suck that we should not mix households at all during the holidays. Absolutely....it really, really sucks. But it's truly not that big of a sacrifice to give up *one* year of get-togethers knowing that it very well may save thousands and thousands of lives.