stubborn child help

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My whole family suffers from lastwordsyndrome. It is really interesting at my sister's house. She has 3 teenage girls who are afflicted AND my parents live with her.:lmao::lmao:

Here, we just all mutter under our breaths and we all get in the last word.:rotfl:
 
Im having flashbacks!:lmao: We had issues with DD also, but had the benefit from learning through friends who had the same problem several years ago. DD also does her homework right after school/practice, but she has to have a snack first and some time to talk our ears off. Homework is done in a quiet part of the house and most days, she just saves the questions she needs help with when she is done with everything else. She knows that she has to do her homework before anything else, so she can choose to 'get down to business' or take her time.

Maybe your son could have 20min or so to play with the dog and get a snack. Spend some time chatting (which can be hard to get things out of them at that age :goodvibes) which may reduce the arguement of 'you dont spend time with me, etc. Then he knows its time for homework, no matter how long it takes. Its hard when they push your buttons but you know your doing the right thing.
 
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My whole family suffers from lastwordsyndrome. It is really interesting at my sister's house. She has 3 teenage girls who are afflicted AND my parents live with her.:lmao::lmao:

Here, we just all mutter under our breaths and we all get in the last word.:rotfl:

This is just sooooo funny! Sorry but This really made me laugh!!!
 
:rotfl2:

My whole family suffers from lastwordsyndrome. It is really interesting at my sister's house. She has 3 teenage girls who are afflicted AND my parents live with her.:lmao::lmao:

Here, we just all mutter under our breaths and we all get in the last word.:rotfl:

Maybe I should try that ;)
 

some very good ideas ladies. it has alsways been home (they are on the bus for at least 45 mins) and homework because they are home 45 mins and out the door for L to swim and then depending on the ball schedule we pack dinner E eats and finishes homework at the pool and then off to ball and L eats and finishes homework. On nights of just swim dinner is at 6:30.

He had his hissy fit and I knew he didn't complete 1 thing so I said nothing till just a bit ago and he did it no questions asked. I'm really hoping that was a turn around.
off to get them into bed I'm right behind them.
 
I highly recommend this book : "Ending the Homework Hassle" by Dr. John Rosemund. I have recommended this book to parents and it has worked for many.
 
I am going to try and speak from both sides of the fence. As the parent of 5 daughters, some of whom were in the same boat as your son, they did come home, have a snack, change, and then we stressed hw should be done before dinner. As they got older, the times morphed into before and after dinner. We found with 2 of the girls that pushing the issue met with the "wall !" After losing our patience a few too many times (my dh was an ELA teacher too ), we decided to back off. Consequences were determined with them, and what was completed they took full responsibility for. Yup, they lost out on some possible great grades, but we found that grades did end up making a difference to them. Hey, it wasn't easy at all, but working with them and not against seemed to help a lot.

Now, as the teacher - how many times I have had this discussion with parents!!! I have taught middle school for 34 yrs now, and though I am no expert - hey, i just told you about our kids -you ladies seem to be the parents that care, that inspire, that motivate...and many of the parents I have worked with did not have that same level of interest. They loved their kids, but sometimes, their children controlled them.
Christy, someone earlier suggested you "back-off" a little. It might work. May I ask, when your other son is working, does this son just crave your attention, simply because he wants some? You said he is totally capable, but do you think he just might want more because he sees his brother get it?
Not knowing your sons, I can only rely on my personal experiences at home and in the classroom. My students have so many varying levels, but they do want my attention when they see someone else get it. Some really feel insecure without it.

Our kids do challenge us, omg they do! It's great to seek other's experiences, but ultimately you know them best. This can really be an age thing - but many of us can attest that it does get easier! Caroline
 
:hug: Christy hang in there girl. I've had the same issues with 2 of my boys (both ADHD). Last year DS8 had a horrible time doing homework-he did the whole name calling, "You hate me" thing too... He seems to be doing pretty good so far this year, but he still has his days. I have found that if I let him go play outside and jump on the trampoline for 10-15 minutes then have a snack he's able to sit down after that and get it done. Hope things go better for you tomorrow.
 
Things sure were a lot different for me too. My parents divorced when I was 7. It was just me and my mother for a long time. I was a latch-key kid. I came home from school and did whatever I wanted. Watched TV, did homework, read, whatever (I wasn't a bad kid, I just stayed at home). I didn't do any after school stuff, because really, there was no money for it.

My mother never helped me with homework. I didn't need it, but she probably wouldn't have been able to help me anyhow. !

Same for me. I came home and mom was either at work or sleeping. I was a sassy kid and it took a few F's on homework for it to sink in that I better do it before tv time (I guess the simpsons arnt good study companions LOL). I too never did extra stuff. I never had help and I got b's. I needed to fail to learn that its my life and I need to be in charge.
 
Thank you all!!

Caroline I flat out asked him if he was jealous of the time we had to spend with L and he said no. we've also beaten around the bush with this and the answer is still no.
Last night there was 1 piece that I knew he hadn't done but he told me everything was done so I ignored it. after supper and in the middle of his tv time I told them to pack up all their stuff make sure everything was done, he discovered after a bit of saying there's nothing to do with this that there was (nothing was stapled together so pages that needed to be together weren't) he sat down and did it.
I've tried the outside time first and both of them don't come in and it just has never worked. so home to homework it is.

Things went a bit better last night but not much. He still thinks that he is the only one in the world that has to do homework and that everyone hates him. I'm fairly sure that some of it is extra cause he's goofing in class. This happened alot last year.
I'm also trying to tell myself that it's still only the 2nd week of school he'll settle in after a bit.

Keep the ideas coming.
 
Does he have any friends, with Moms that you are friendly with, that you could tag team with? If friends also have to go home and do homework, and if he gets to experience that first hand (and if other Mom is having the same battles, come to your house), and find out that there are other mean moms too.
 
Hope I wish that were and option This class is weird I talk to about 2-3 of the parents and 2 of them are teachers in the school. the other one is 24 and has 5 kids.......... her oldest is a great kid and E's buddy but I can't imagine how anything happens in that house, 3 different fathers only the twins father in the picture. Poor kid misses 90% of stuff cause she's running around trying to cope.

At least today is friday and the teacher has a no homework rule for the weekends:woohoo::woohoo: so we can all relax and then enjoy a dinner and some quiet time I'm hoping mine includes a bubble bath and a glass of wine
 

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