Strongest evidence yet against spanking

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Is this what the PP meant about sexual problems later in life because of spanking?

So now we know where the term " A bit of slap and tickle" comes from!

 

[Miz Diz]

Spank if you want to, don't if you don't. I do not care what anyone does to their own child.

What I do is my business and what you do its yours. I won't nanny you one way or the other and expect to be left to make my own decision in return.

I was spanked and I never considered that it taught me how to hit people. I never hit a classmate, friend, teacher, etc. Many use the argument, "That is just teaching the kid to hit." If that were truly the case, there would have been daily fist fights in my school classes.

I knew when I was spanked it was for punishment because I had done something wrong. I was not spanked for everything I did wrong. I also got time outs, etc.

What one discipline works for one child, does not work for all kids.

 

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

if spanking "teaches kids to hit"

then what does television and video games teach them?

lets see.....


murder, rape, robbery, terrorism, (thats just a small sample, waaay to many CSI shows!)

use of guns, knives, swords, explosives (and those are the tame video games)

sorry I don't buy that spanking teaches the kids to hit.

When I ws spanked, I remembered to never to do that again..(or at least figure out a way to not get caught!)

see it helpd me develop problem solving skills!

 

[bettymae1121]

I don't think it's the fact that one spanks per say, I think it's more of how often. If you are spanking your kid once a week and screaming at them daily, then something else is clearly wrong that needs to be addressed. If you give your kid a couple of swift spanks on the butt once or twice a year for major infractions, I don't see the issue with that.

Just observing my brother and how he and SIL raise my nephews, I think taking away things (especially video games/computer time) hits home with kids more than a spanking does 9 times out of 10. But neither are afraid of spanking the boys if they feel it's warented. But because they use non-spanking forms of disapline and are consistant, the need to spank is nearly non-existant in their family.

The one thing I object to is this: Child A hits Child B. Parent sees this and then smacks Child A while telling them "don't hit!". Now THAT'S a confusing message if there ever was one!

 

[themilesfamily]

if spanking "teaches kids to hit"

then what does television and video games teach them?

lets see.....

UGH! Don't get me STARTED on what I think TV and video games are teaching kids.

BTW, Grumpy Pirate I am extremely disappointed in you. You didn't start passing the rum around until PAGE 19 of this thread. Heck, I've been drinking heavily since page 1.

 

[PatsGirl]

I've seen some pretty strong evidence against spanking in my special ed preschool class. Those who are spanked at home have no problem hitting the classroom staff when things don't go their way at school. They have figured out that we won't hit back. We have two kids right now whose parents have told us they spank their kids for discipline. Those are the two who have no qualms about hitting, kicking, spitting at and biting the staff and sometimes the other kids.

I spanked my children, not very often, but they wouldn't DARE hit anyone, teacher, another child, or myself....that's what spanking got me, a fear of Mom when she is pee'd off and hitting your teacher would certainly qualify.

Well, I have to admit that both kids had one physical altercation each while in school, DD in second grade on the bus during an argument about her Bitty Baby and DS in 6th grade protecting himself from a few 8th grade bullies. Other than that, I've never known either of them to lay a hand on another human being

 

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

UGH! Don't get me STARTED on what I think TV and video games are teaching kids.

BTW, Grumpy Pirate I am extremely disappointed in you. You didn't start passing the rum around until PAGE 19 of this thread. Heck, I've been drinking heavily since page 1.

hehehehe my bad....

heck if I started a bit eariler...

maybe the anti types might want to be spanked for being "naughty"


then a whole new set of discussion points could ensue!

have some RUM!!

 

[OceanAnnie]

if spanking "teaches kids to hit"

then what does television and video games teach them?

lets see.....


murder, rape, robbery, terrorism, (thats just a small sample, waaay to many CSI shows!)

use of guns, knives, swords, explosives (and those are the tame video games)

sorry I don't buy that spanking teaches the kids to hit.

When I ws spanked, I remembered to never to do that again..(or at least figure out a way to not get caught!)

see it helpd me develop problem solving skills!

Good points.

 

[snarlingcoyote]

hehehehe my bad....

heck if I started a bit eariler...

maybe the anti types might want to be spanked for being "naughty"


then a whole new set of discussion points could ensue!

have some RUM!!

Rum? I'm already half-way thru my bottle of Black Jack. . .yer fallin' behind, Grumpy. (And such a lovely behind it is!)

 

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Rum? I'm already half-way thru my bottle of Black Jack. . .yer fallin' behind, Grumpy. (And such a lovely behind it is!)

you do know I'm a guy..right?

 

[jiminyC_fan]

I was spanked and turned out just fine.

 

[snarlingcoyote]

you do know I'm a guy..right?

(Any woman who tells you she fell for a man because of his smile is lying. You know that, right Grumpy?)

 

[Took]

Carlos Mencia (for those that don't know he is a popular hispanic comedian) has one of the funniest bits on punishment in school. He talks about how the first day of school his mom would be charging to the office to sign the forms to allow them to spank him.

I can't find a clip of it but if you ever get a chance to watch/catch it, definetly do so.

My mother did spank me (sometimes with a belt or switch). Not OFTEN, but sometimes.

That said, I always assumed she would freely sign the form to allow the school to spank me (like Mencia's mom!). I didn't find out until I was an adult that she always checked "no" on that form.

She said she was the only one who was going to spank me. No one else.

What do you know?!

You know, it really warmed to heart to hear her tell me that.

 

[aprilgail2]

My mother did spank me (sometimes with a belt or switch). Not OFTEN, but sometimes.


She said she was the only one who was going to spank me. No one else.



You know, it really warmed to heart to hear her tell me that.

Yes- very heartwarming that only your mom was allowed to abuse you with a belt or switch.

 

[ThanksForNoticingMe]

Yes- very heartwarming that only your mom was allowed to abuse you with a belt or switch.

That's exactly what I was thinking...but I am sure like every pro spanker the poster will say that they "turned out fine"...which is often a code word for I am going to continue to perpetuate the same behavior on my own children.

 

[Shmily1]

I was spanked before when I was little but I'm not defiant, haven't hit my teachers, and don't feel I was slighted because of it. I have also raised DS20and DD19 without spanking them and they aren't defiant or hit others either. I do think some will confuse spanking with beating and that would be the problem.

 

[onelilspark]

Chalk me up to another person who was spanked. Graduated HS & College with honors (what was that bit about lower scores?) Never got in trouble in HS (no detentions even!) A good healthy fear never hurt a child. My parents only had to spank me once or twice before I got the message...by the time I was 3, it was a threat, and I knew they were serious.

Spanking isn't the worst thing in the world.

 

[Ppufi]

I was only spanked, or warned that I would be spanked, when I was seriously toeing the line, kwim? I wouldn't say a few spanks destroyed my life.

 

[Metsfan520]

Chalk me up to another person who was spanked. Graduated HS & College with honors (what was that bit about lower scores?) Never got in trouble in HS (no detentions even!) A good healthy fear never hurt a child. My parents only had to spank me once or twice before I got the message...by the time I was 3, it was a threat, and I knew they were serious.

Spanking isn't the worst thing in the world.

I can say the same thing about my grades & no detentions. And I wasn't spanked. So this debate will go on for as long as there are parents & kids.

 

[luvsJack]

I can say the same thing about my grades & no detentions. And I wasn't spanked. So this debate will go on for as long as there are parents & kids.

Exactly. There is really no way to end this debate. No one will admit being wrong and for the most part no one is wrong in their choice of disciplining their child. The important thing is that the parents are loving at all times and use what method to teach their child right from wrong.

Parenting methods are different, that doesn't make them wrong. . . just different.