Strike info anyone?

John Dobbertin

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Checked "rumors & news dis" & they have story on possible WDW strike. Does anyone know how such a strike -- if it were to happen -- would impact WDW? The parks? The hotels? Transportation? Apparently 22,000 WDW employees involved in dispute.
 
Theme parks thread is short on detail. Does anyone have any specific info. Media info is very thin. This strike appears imminent. Does anyone have any specific info on how this could impact the WDW resorts? And the rest of the WDW operation. We're going relatively soon. So are several thousand other folks. What's up?!
 
I doubt you will get details until they would actually be on strike. They haven't authorized a strike yet. There are plenty of other people that work for WDW that could fill in for the striking workers.
 

While there may be others willing to "fill in" the thing I asked is whether OTHER unions such as the Teamsters who make deliveries, etc will honor the strike.

pinnie
 
As I read the news -- what there is of it -- this potential strike action involves 22,000 WDW employees. Not certain how Disney would "fill in" for that number..
 
I am so bent out of shape. I missed this posting and started a new thread with a pole if anyone is interested. I am leaving in 43 days to spend the holidays there. I have invited the grandparents down with us this year and this will be a bummer if they ruin it for us.
Fill ins are not the same and with the holidays approaching and attendance at a all time hight ( last year the broke records) it will not be fun as things may not be open.
 
While I am concerned about any potential strike that may effect our trip in December, please remember that the unions use strikes (and the threat of strikes) as a tool to move on their agenda.

Working in an industry that is very unionized, this is a normal tactic and is often used just prior to a busy time to get managements attention.

Until the strike is authorized and called the affects of the strike on WDW would be pure speculation.
 
Here is the info....They CANNOT strike until December at the earliest...and most think a strike will be averted with a meadator.


Disney World's Largest Union Will Ask Members to Authorize Strike

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) -- Leaders of Walt Disney World's largest union group said Thursday they will ask members to reject the company's latest contract proposal and authorize them to call a strike if further negotiations or mediation fail.


Members of the Service Trades Council, a coalition of six unions that represents 40 percent of the company's 53,000-person work force, will vote on the latest contract proposal next Thursday. The ballot will likely ask members to approve the proposal or vote 'no' and authorize a strike.

A vote by Disney workers to authorize the strike doesn't mean one is inevitable; it only gives union leaders the authority to call one. Union leaders first plan to ask for a mediator to help reach a contract agreement, said Joe Condo, head of the union group which represents costumed characters, ticket-takers, bus drivers and hotel maids.

Union leaders and company negotiators continued their discussions on Thursday. The Service Trades Council and the company have been negotiating a contract since May. Union members have twice voted down versions of the contract proposal.

Disney spokeswoman Jacquee Polak called the latest contract offer "fair and competitive."

"We're focused right now on finding common ground," Polak said.

Starting minimum wage in the first year of the three-year contract would increase 10 cents to $6.80 with 10 cent increases in each of the next two years. Union officials say between 20 percent and 25 percent of its members earn less than $7 an hour.

A major sticking point is the company's desire to raise the percentage of job hours that are allowed to be worked by part-time employees. Right now, 35 percent of the total hours worked at the parks and resorts are allowed to be given to part-timers, although in 2003 only about a fifth of the hours were worked by part-timers. The company wants to raise the part-time limit to 40 percent to save on health care costs and other benefits given to full-time workers, Condo said.

"That just shows you what they want to do here," Condo said. "They want 40 percent of the work force to be part-timers. That's going to cut back on the cost of insurance."

If a strike is authorized, the earliest members could walk out would be December since the contract, which prohibits strikes, was extended through the first week in December.

Walt Disney World's last strike was by some musicians in the early 1980s.

Union leaders have picketed outside a Disney store in New York and passed out leaflets at the Orlando International Airport to protest the company's offer on wages and health care and pension benefits.
 
Besides...

I AM WITH THE COMPANY ALL THE WAY ON THIS ONE !!!!
 
Associated Press has an additional story you can find: ap.tbo.com/sp/breaking/MGBJ9J5J51E.html

Very informative.
 
Here is the latest update on the Strike :)

From the Orlando Sentinel....

Report: Disney, union reach agreement

By Sean Mussenden | Sentinel Staff Writer
Posted November 4, 2004, 7:11 PM EST

Leaders of Walt Disney World's largest union reached a tentative agreement on a new three-year contract with the company tonight, a Disney spokeswoman said.

Details were not immediately available.

Contract negotiations between Walt Disney World and the Service Trades Council Union continued today, a day after union leaders temporarily halted talks and, in frustration, said they would ask workers for the authority to call a strike.

The two sides have been working for eight months to reach an agreement on a new three-year contract that would cover more than 20,000 theme park and hotel workers.

Disney spokeswoman Jacquee Polak characterized the talks as productive, She said the company would continue to press for an agreement.

Walt Disney World has not had a strike since a group of musicians stopped work in the early 1980s. The Service Trades Council, with more than 20,000 members, has never gone on strike.

Workers can vote to accept Disney's latest proposal, or vote it down
 
I just read on one of those links that the strike could begin next week, then a second one says december, help, which is right?

We rescheduled after Ivan, and a death in the family and finally going next friday I really need this trip to be okay, a strike would be a nightmare.

UPDATE: Orlandosentinal.com just posted this at 9:27


Leaders of Walt Disney World's largest union reached a tentative agreement on a new three-year contract with the company tonight, a Disney spokeswoman said.

A majority of leaders of the Service Trades Council, a coalition of six unions that represents 40 percent of the company's 53,000-person work force, will recommend approval of the three-year contract to its members when they vote on it next Thursday.

Contract negotiations between Walt Disney World and the Service Trades Council Union continued today, a day after union leaders temporarily halted talks and, in frustration, said they would ask workers for the authority to call a strike.

The two sides have been working for eight months to reach an agreement on a new three-year contract that would cover more than 20,000 theme park and hotel workers.

Union workers have twice voted down Disney's offers, saying the raises and bonuses the company offered were too small, and the increases in health-care plan contributions were too large.

Disney has said the offers were fair and competitive.

The last vote came in early October. Despite weeks of talks, the two sides have not found common ground. After hours of negotiations, union leaders cut off talks Wednesday and scheduled a vote on the company's latest proposal for next week.

Condo said he would ask his members to vote it down, a move that would give his leadership team the ability to call a strike.

The council has never asked for that authority during past negotiations, he and other union members said.

"We asked for it this time because the company is not being fair," Condo said.

Disney spokeswoman Jacquee Polak characterized the talks as productive, and said executives leading the negotiations were surprised to hear the union was pushing for the strike vote. She said the company would continue to press for an agreement.

"This is the kind of posturing that the union will use, and we're aware of that," Polak said late Wednesday.

A major sticking point is the company's desire to raise the percentage of job hours that are allowed to be worked by part-time employees. Right now, 35 percent of the total hours worked at the parks and resorts are allowed to be given to part-timers, although in 2003 only about a fifth of the hours were worked by part-timers. The company wants to raise the part-time limit to 40 percent to save on health care costs and other benefits given to full-time workers, Condo told The Associated Press today.

Walt Disney World has not had a strike since a group of musicians stopped work in the early 1980s. The Service Trades Council, with more than 20,000 members, has never gone on strike.

Workers can vote to accept Disney's latest proposal, or vote it down.
 
CAP56

So, you're with the company all the way on this, huh? Is that because you think a $6.80 minimum wage is outrageous. I think it would be very hard to support one person, let alone a family on that. What is outrageous in my opinion is the over $500 million Eisner has made in the last few years and the $140 million in severance payments made by Disney to Mike Ovitz when he simply "didn't work out as President".

And, I don't blame workers for trying to protect their jobs from part timers who get no health care and benefits.

Sheesh!
 
So, you're with the company all the way on this, huh? Is that because you think a $6.80 minimum wage is outrageous. I think it would be very hard to support one person, let alone a family on that. What is outrageous in my opinion is the over $500 million Eisner has made in the last few years and the $140 million in severance payments made by Disney to Mike Ovitz when he simply "didn't work out as President".

Could not have said it better!
 
Originally posted by lyncruiser
CAP56

So, you're with the company all the way on this, huh? Is that because you think a $6.80 minimum wage is outrageous. I think it would be very hard to support one person, let alone a family on that. What is outrageous in my opinion is the over $500 million Eisner has made in the last few years and the $140 million in severance payments made by Disney to Mike Ovitz when he simply "didn't work out as President".

Well said!!!!!!
 
I would just like to express my opinion that I have read some very selfish posts concerning the possible strike. To be upset that "these people" (the workers) are going to ruin your vacation because they are standing up for what they believe is right is... :mad: ... makes me madder than I can express on these boards. I understand that this is YOUR vacation that you paid a LOT of money for, but you must have a little sympathy. Walt Disney himself said, "You can dream, create, design and build the most wonderful place in the world...but it requires people to make the dream a reality." Working with the public is not an easy job. Disney is beginning to treat it's Cast like they should enjoy the privilege of working at WDW, and the money is not the important part - it's making magic for our Guests. Well, the Guests are paying A LOT of money for this "magic" that goes to this company. While I understand, the Disney pay scale will never match what these Cast Members TRULY provide for the Guests, it would be nice to see the pay keep up with the rising cost of living. And I personally believe that if Disney would have made a serious offer the first time around (instead of that insulting offer of a 1% raise or something like that) that this would have been over with by now. The company has seriously offended these Cast Members, not only with the offer, but with some comments that Eisner made to the cast in informal meetings after the hurricanes.
 
If you all want to start fighting-out the WDW labor dispute, start your own thread. I started this one to figure out what's happening so that thousands of us out here would know whether or not we should still plan on flying/driving to Orlando in the coming weeks. It won't be much fun to be at WDW if the place is essentially shut-down. So if you have solid info about what's really happening, terrific. Otherwise if you want to throw rocks at each other do it on your own thread. Thanks
 
We're taking our annual trip next week and I didn't even know this was going on. Good to hear that it sounds like things are being worked out. Disney workers should definitely be some of the highest-paid service industry workers in the business and not have to accept the fact they're being "allowed" to work for Disney as a substitute for actual money. That being said, the people that are at the minimum wage level in most companies are usually younger and are rarely heads of households. But also with the wage scales I've seen for most workers in the Disney parks, you're not going to be making much more over minimum wage no matter how old you are or your experience. For Disney to be trying to squeeze in more part-timers to save on paying out health benefits is pretty dang chintzy...but I guess that's par for the course for most companies these days. You think Disney's bad, check out Wal-Mart.

I noticed that some of the groups involved included the "characters," bus drivers and housekeepers. Hey, take away those 3 and the place shuts down. :hyper: Considering the emphasis put on characters these days, can you imagine telling your kid "Honey, Mickey and Donald and Pluto and Stitch and Cinderella and Snow White and Belle and Woody and Pooh and the little Martians and that little candlestick guy...they're all on vacation for a while."

Link to article from today on strike being avoided
 


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