Stores With "No Public Bathroom"

[Kbee]

I guess it comes down to whatever helps you sleep at night and for me there has to be some compassion.

Oh for crying out loud.

 

[NewRVLady]

No, my daughter-in-law didn't throw a fit when she was denied the use of the bathroom at the convenience store on her mail route. She simply left the item (s) she was going to purchase on the counter and walked out. Why should she spend her money in a store who wouldn't allow their mail delivery person to use their bathroom? If it is the store's right to refuse bathroom use, it is her right to refuse to spend her money there.
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We are spending lots of time in Northern states, traveling to and thro visiting our son. I notice in VERY urban areas that many gas stations have no public bathrooms-sure wouldn't make me not buy gas there!
When we go to NYC to sightsee-DS has a informal "list" of bathrooms......Starbucks, of course and even some dept stores 9altho they are often way in the back somewhere

 

[NHdisneylover]

No, my daughter-in-law didn't throw a fit when she was denied the use of the bathroom at the convenience store on her mail route. She simply left the item (s) she was going to purchase on the counter and walked out. Why should she spend her money in a store who wouldn't allow their mail delivery person to use their bathroom? If it is the store's right to refuse bathroom use, it is her right to refuse to spend her money there.

And many people are saying stores can't let customers use the bathroom because they keep stock back there...I've been to many gas stations/convenience stores that have bathrooms available to their customers and they have stock in that same area. Goodness, people steal things right out in the main part of the stores, it doesn't have to be stock that's kept in the back by the bathroom.

Well, it seems I gave her more credit than she deserved--I think rudely walking out while leaving her upurchased items on the counter was totally uncalled for.

Why does her being a postal worker somehow make her more eligible to use their restroom than any other customer?

 

[Laura66]

Oh for crying out loud.

I know right?

 

[sam_gordon]

I guess it comes down to whatever helps you sleep at night and for me there has to be some compassion.

What helps me sleep at night is knowing I have a job that will give me a paycheck and I can provide my family with a roof over our heads and food on the table.

 

[Skywalker]

I guess it comes down to whatever helps you sleep at night and for me there has to be some compassion.

How's about a little compassion for the person you want to risk their job and / or clean up your kids pee in their workplace?

 

[Kbee]

I have made decisions many times that went against the rules. Once locking the door of our office as I was the only one there and a student needed immediate help. Was it against the rules? Yes. Could I have technically been fired? Yes. But this person needed attention and my bosses are the type of people to understand that.

That is great for you, it honestly it is. You don't seem to get that not everyone does have a boss like that. Its easy for you to say you'd use compassion and go against policy if you know your boss is going to understand, because that means you really aren't risking your job. Other's aren't so lucky.

 

[kaytieeldr]

If I was risking my job by being compassionate, yes I would.

Good that you live where replacement jobs are easy to find.

And many people are saying stores can't let customers use the bathroom because they keep stock back there...I've been to many gas stations/convenience stores that have bathrooms available to their customers and they have stock in that same area. Goodness, people steal things right out in the main part of the stores, it doesn't have to be stock that's kept in the back by the bathroom.

Never been to a gas station bathroom that uses it for stock storage, ever.

FYI instructors can be fired for not following policy.

Do you see the difference between "can" and "will"? Also note for purposes of this discussion that there are no safety, security, insurance, etc. issues in the excessive absence scenario.

 

[okeydokey]

Everything you have posted in this thread says otherwise, especially the one where you'd expect the employee to clean up the pee your child left on the floor. Real nice.

And don't forget that if she were asked to clean it up herself she would throw the mob back in the face of the clerk. That's some real compassion for you there.

 

[Mkrop]

I wonder how many of the perfect parents, who must also have perfect children that don't ever pee, poo, or vomit in public, had accidents in their own childhoods. Go ask your own parents if you ever peed in a store, puked in a library or on an airplane, or any other type of accident of this sort. I bet a large portion would be surprised at the answer. Were your parents irresponsible to not have scheduled in your bathroom stops or for not carrying a barf bag?

Not a perfect parent by any stretch but in the 17 years I have been a parent we have never had a potty accident out in public. Blown out diapers sure, all over me though. And my kids were yackers esp DS17, that kid threw up everywhere, but WE always cleaned it up. Once again if I asked and they allowed me to get him in there that would be great if they didnt then I need to get him outside or to the nearest restroom possible, but I have caught it in bags and my shirt before. When Ds17 threw up grape juice all over Country Buffet, DH and I cleaned it up.

And DH understands rural, he drives all over, but once again he plans for his bathroom needs.

And I was excellent pharmacy tech but I would never put out pharmacy or the pharmacist license that I was working for in jeopardy.

 

[sam_gordon]

I wonder how many of the perfect parents, who must also have perfect children that don't ever pee, poo, or vomit in public, had accidents in their own childhoods. Go ask your own parents if you ever peed in a store, puked in a library or on an airplane, or any other type of accident of this sort. I bet a large portion would be surprised at the answer. Were your parents irresponsible to not have scheduled in your bathroom stops or for not carrying a barf bag?

Are you reading the same thread? I don't think anyone is saying our kids haven't have/had to pee, poo, or vomit in public. At issue is whether a business (or an employee of the business) is rude by denying someone use of a "non public" bathroom.

You want to ask if you can use the bathroom? Go ahead. But if told "no" (and it really doesn't matter WHY you were told no), then you go somewhere else. Why is that so hard to understand?

 

[MIGrandma]

Never been to a gas station bathroom that uses it for stock storage, ever.

Go back and read what I actually said. I never said the stock was IN the bathroom, I said it was in the same AREA. As in walking down a hall where the bathrooms are, and there is stock piled up near them.

If some small store owners are concerned that people will steal from them if they have stock NEAR the bathrooms so don't allow them to use them because of that reason, people can steal stuff right in the main part of the store.

 

[Luvchefmic]

I still don't get this. Most two year olds can understand the 2 letter little word. " NO " . Why can't so many supposed adults on this thread get that ?

NO ifs NO ands NO butts ( in our restroom )

 

[Octoberbride03]

Go back and read what I actually said. I never said the stock was IN the bathroom, I said it was in the same AREA. As in walking down a hall where the bathrooms are, and there is stock piled up near them.

If some small store owners are concerned that people will steal from them if they have stock NEAR the bathrooms so don't allow them to use them because of that reason, people can steal stuff right in the main part of the store.

People already steal stuff in the main part of the store, that's why they don't want them in the back of the store so they have more control over inventory that hasn't been set out yet. That way all they have to worry about is the employees stealing, but that's a lot easier to prove than random people going through the stock area to the bathroom.

 

[sam_gordon]

good grief..... many of you will argue over the dumbest things.

Let them in, don't let them in, clean up your mess, don't clean it up, soil your pants, pop a squat behind a bush, spend your money or don't...... if it's YOUR store, you make the call. If it's NOT your store, you have NO say. If many of you would use HALF the amount of energy you're using in this thread to actually help others instead of arguing over the DUMBEST things, then the world would be a much happier place. Damn, 18+ pages of back and forth *****ery at its finest.... all for what? Friggin nothing. Pathetic.

And yet you're coming to the thread and posting. If it bothers you that much, why are you reading the thread?

 

[Wendy31]

If I was risking my job by being compassionate, yes I would.


The difference of opinion here many times comes from some that think that rules are rules and there are no exceptions and no gray areas. I don't live that way. Haven't for 51 years do not plan to change now.

Everyone can relate stories and experiences and argue points till the cows come home but everyone's opinion is going to be based on their own experience. I know that here most places will make an exception if they see a need. Most bosses are not tyrants and are not going to fire someone that felt a situation warranted making a decision.

Just like my question about the person bleeding on the sidewalk, some wouldn't break a rule to help them. And if that is ok by them, then I guess its ok. But for me and for most people I know, it just wouldn't be ok for us.

I have made decisions many times that went against the rules. Once locking the door of our office as I was the only one there and a student needed immediate help. Was it against the rules? Yes. Could I have technically been fired? Yes. But this person needed attention and my bosses are the type of people to understand that.

I guess it comes down to whatever helps you sleep at night and for me there has to be some compassion.

And about the cleaning up after my child, for the last time, I was responding to the person who said she would hand the supplies to the parent as though the parent purposely let it happen. I wouldn't leave it to the clerk, but I won't return obnoxius attitude with apologies and falling all over myself.

(bolding mine)

I think my previous post was lost in the shuffle of so many pages, so I'll say it again...

A great lesson I've learned in life is that not everyone I encounter is going to act like I would in any particular situation.

(Example - My DH would give up his seat on a bus for a lady. Not every man does. I don't get on a full bus expecting every man to jump up & offer me a seat.)

It doesn't matter what I would do.

If I were an employee of a store w/ no public restroom, & you asked me if you could use our private restroom because you were sick or your child really had to go, I'd probably let you - depending on the store's rules, etc.

But that doesn't mean everyone would.

If I were an employee & someone fell right outside of my store & was lying there bleeding, at the very least, I'd go check on the person.

But another person might not.

I can't go around expecting every person to behave or act the way I would or the way I *think* they should. I can't live my life depending on exceptions to be made for me or for my children - even if I would grant those exceptions to someone else.

And it doesn't mean I get to react rudely or unkindly just because the person didn't treat me like I thought they should or give me the exception that I thought was warranted.

And, again, you may think differently (& that's your right), but I don't think it's very kind or compassionate of me if I think someone should risk their job in order to accommodate me. I don't think I'm being very kind or compassionate if I leave a mess for someone else to clean up w/ an attitude of "serves them right."

 

[TAX GUY]

And yet you're coming to the thread and posting. If it bothers you that much, why are you reading the thread?

To point out how stupid it is. Obviously those bickering back and forth can't see it, so I'm helping to point it out.

 

[TAX GUY]

And yet you're coming to the thread and posting. If it bothers you that much, why are you reading the thread?

LOL, but yet here you are commenting on the thread

And just to be clear, my post is neither for or against so technically I'm not "participating" in the stupid arguing.

 

[maxiesmom]

People already steal stuff in the main part of the store, that's why they don't want them in the back of the store so they have more control over inventory that hasn't been set out yet. That way all they have to worry about is the employees stealing, but that's a lot easier to prove than random people going through the stock area to the bathroom.

Insurance reasons. Employees are covered in back areas. Customers are not.

 

[Skywalker]

If many of you would use HALF the amount of energy you're using in this thread to actually help others instead of arguing over the DUMBEST things, then the world would be a much happier place. Damn, 18+ pages of back and forth *****ery at its finest.... all for what? Friggin nothing. Pathetic.

So YOUR contribution to making the world a "happier place" is to butt into a conversation and call the participants dumb and pathetic? So people who want the world a happier place are slinging insults, and people with compassion are bullying store owners and leaving others to clean up their pee. Must be Bizarro day on the DIS.