Staying at WH and using FP+ ?

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Hi folks,

We plan on staying at WH next August and we are a little confused about the new FB+...
My question to you is if I buy our tickets through UT will we be able to have FB+ with our tickets ???
How does it work for us folks that plan on staying of site and want to enjoy having FB ???

Thanks
 
Hi folks,

We plan on staying at WH next August and we are a little confused about the new FB+...
My question to you is if I buy our tickets through UT will we be able to have FB+ with our tickets ???
How does it work for us folks that plan on staying of site and want to enjoy having FB ???

Thanks

what's WH?:thumbsup2
 
I don't think the whole system is clear at this point!! We are staying at Bonnet Creek next August, purchasing annual passes (we considered Windsor Hills) and I cannot figure out what Disney plans to do with off site guest and the new fast pass system! Some clarity would be great!!
 
IIRC, for now it's a perk for staying onsite. I don't know if that will change in the future. Outside tickets may be linked to a magic band but I believe that's only if you book room only (vs. package w/tickets)

I would ask on the Tips & Strategies board. There are ticketing CMs there that offer excellent info. :thumbsup2
 

I have been wondering about this also. We usually do both an onsite and offsite visit each year. We are also the kind of people who try to ride our favourite attractions several times a day. We have annual passes.

How will FastPasses become available to the rest of us?

If our ability to see/ride our favourites is reduced, then the result will not be what Disney wants (which presumably is to get us all to stay onsite). It will be to do a shorter visit in the day, try to hit our favourites, and then head off to do something else away from the parks. Less time there, less money for Disney.
 
I started a thread about this a few weeks ago and it seems that no one really knows. I'm hesitating at buying passes for December because I'm unsure if FP+ will be live and if we have a chance of being included. I have MVMCP tickets so far and that's it.

It would be nice to know something!
 
From what I understand, if you have an AP, you will get a magic band and be able to use FP+ like any resort guest. However, there is a nasty rumor floating around that Disney is following in Universal's footsteps and plans on making FPs available exclusively to resort guests and AP holders in the future.
 
From what I understand, if you have an AP, you will get a magic band and be able to use FP+ like any resort guest. However, there is a nasty rumor floating around that Disney is following in Universal's footsteps and plans on making FPs available exclusively to resort guests and AP holders in the future.

I hope that isn't true!! Although it would push me to start looking at alternate vacations for our family!!
 
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but...

Fast Pass+, Magic Bands, and all of the other onsite perks are for guests staying in ONSITE DISNEY resorts only.

To use FP+, you must have an active ONSITE reservation, AND active theme park tickets for the period you are visiting.
 
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but...

Fast Pass+, Magic Bands, and all of the other onsite perks are for guests staying in ONSITE DISNEY resorts only.

To use FP+, you must have an active ONSITE reservation, AND active theme park tickets for the period you are visiting.

Only during the testing phase. Looks pretty certain that regular FPs will be going away altogether, and there is NO WAY that Disney will exclude offsite guests from FastPasses.
 
Only during the testing phase. Looks pretty certain that regular FPs will be going away altogether, and there is NO WAY that Disney will exclude offsite guests from FastPasses.
Don't know about regular FPs, but I would expect Disney to continue those. Why not??? Costs them virtually nothing, helps them even out demand for key rides...what's the hard part?

As far as the FP+, that is going to continue to be for onsite only -- just like access to DDP, MDE, billing and shipping purchases to onsite rooms, EMH, free parking at the theme parks, and all of the other ONSITE perks.

I personally don't think the onsite perks (including FP+) are worth the premium you pay to stay onsite -- but why on earth would you think Disney would provide perks for people who spend their vacation dollars elsewhere???
 
Don't know about regular FPs, but I would expect Disney to continue those. Why not??? Costs them virtually nothing, helps them even out demand for key rides...what's the hard part?

As far as the FP+, that is going to continue to be for onsite only -- just like access to DDP, MDE, billing and shipping purchases to onsite rooms, EMH, free parking at the theme parks, and all of the other ONSITE perks.

I personally don't think the onsite perks (including FP+) are worth the premium you pay to stay onsite -- but why on earth would you think Disney would provide perks for people who spend their vacation dollars elsewhere???

Well, FPs have always been available for both onsite and offsite guests, so I can't imagine that they'd discontinue that. Most visitors stay offsite and I don't think they'd want to anger so many of their guest. (I know Universal does it, but I think Disney is a different animal.)

IMO, Disney won't keep FP+ and regular FP - too confusing, although I hope they do. If they do keep both, I agree with you that they won't offer FP+ to offsite guests. If they eliminate regular FP, I think FP+ will work just like ADRs. Disney resort guests will probably get to make all their FP+ choices at 180 +10 (or +10 whatever timetable they set for FP+ reservations.)
 
Well, FPs have always been available for both onsite and offsite guests, so I can't imagine that they'd discontinue that. Most visitors stay offsite and I don't think they'd want to anger so many of their guest. (I know Universal does it, but I think Disney is a different animal.)
FP+ is just one more benefit exclusively for guests staying onsite in a Disney resort. That whole marketing strategy is based on getting guests onsite and preventing them from leaving for anything. Universal doesn't have that ability.

We don't expect Disney to pick us up at the airport and provide free bus transportation to our offsite hotel like they do onsite guests. We don't expect to get DDP. We don't expect free parking at theme parks, or EMH. Why would we expect FP+? Ain't happening.

I think FP+ will work just like ADRs. Disney resort guests will probably get to make all their FP+ choices at 180 +10 (or +10 whatever timetable they set for FP+ reservations.)
Not sure what the timeline will be, but yes, they are making FP+ reservations ahead of time. I believe people are now making reservations for November when FP+ is supposed to go into full implementation. We're going to OKW on an RCI exchange in December, so we'll see how it works.
 
Don't know about regular FPs, but I would expect Disney to continue those.
Several insiders claim precisely the opposite; paper FPs go away once FP+ is fully rolled-out.

FP+ is just one more benefit exclusively for guests staying onsite in a Disney resort.
I'm willing to bet you one La Cava margarita that offsite guests will be able to make FP+ reservations within the next six months---i.e., before the close of Disney's 2Q14.
 
Check out the strategies board. EVERYONE is stating that onsiters will get FP+ (as they are now) and off siters will be given access perhaps 60 days while onsite gets 60 days plus 10.

They will not be taking away FP for off site guests. Disney WANTS people BUYING and EATING. They don't want ANYONE standing in lines. It's a waste for them- offsite or onsite.

Rest assured by spring 2014 I believe- as do 99% of people in the know- that off site guests will have their version of FP+
 
Disney WANTS people BUYING and EATING. They don't want ANYONE standing in lines. It's a waste for them- offsite or onsite.
This is an aside, but this isn't the primary motivation for FP+. Or, at least, it shouldn't be for anyone who actually knows the numbers.

True, this was partly the motivation for developing FP in the first place. But, if you go back and look at the annual reports for the first few years of FP operation, you'll find that there was no unusual increase in per-capita in-park spending vs. the "pure play" theme park operators---at the time, Cedar Fair and Six Flags. People didn't suddenly buy more at Disney parks. For the most part, they just got in some other line.

Indeed, over the history of virtual queueing, Disney is the only operator who still offers an "included with admission" product. The other operators that had free VQ (Universal, Cedar Fair) have switched to pay-to-play, in some form or another, and pay-to-play systems have been adopted by/expanded at the other major players: Busch/Sea World, Six Flags, and Herschend. If VQ were such a revenue generator, you'd think the other parks would have tried to expand it without charging for it, wouldn't you? But, they haven't. So, perhaps it's not.

It's interesting to ask why Disney continues to offer an included-with-admission version. My personal guess is that this comes down to Disney placing a higher value on good will in the balance sheet. Over time, I do expect Disney to start monetizing FP+ in some more direct ways, but so far the public statements by the company suggest that it's going to continue to be a level playing field---most notably, in the interview Nick Franklin gave to an Orlando TV station a while back.
 
From what I understand, if you have an AP, you will get a magic band and be able to use FP+ like any resort guest. However, there is a nasty rumor floating around that Disney is following in Universal's footsteps and plans on making FPs available exclusively to resort guests and AP holders in the future.
FP's aren't exclusive at Universal. Anyone can participate but they do charge.

This is an aside, but this isn't the primary motivation for FP+. Or, at least, it shouldn't be for anyone who actually knows the numbers.

True, this was partly the motivation for developing FP in the first place. But, if you go back and look at the annual reports for the first few years of FP operation, you'll find that there was no unusual increase in per-capita in-park spending vs. the "pure play" theme park operators---at the time, Cedar Fair and Six Flags. People didn't suddenly buy more at Disney parks. For the most part, they just got in some other line.

Indeed, over the history of virtual queueing, Disney is the only operator who still offers an "included with admission" product. The other operators that had free VQ (Universal, Cedar Fair) have switched to pay-to-play, in some form or another, and pay-to-play systems have been adopted by/expanded at the other major players: Busch/Sea World, Six Flags, and Herschend. If VQ were such a revenue generator, you'd think the other parks would have tried to expand it without charging for it, wouldn't you? But, they haven't. So, perhaps it's not.

It's interesting to ask why Disney continues to offer an included-with-admission version. My personal guess is that this comes down to Disney placing a higher value on good will in the balance sheet. Over time, I do expect Disney to start monetizing FP+ in some more direct ways, but so far the public statements by the company suggest that it's going to continue to be a level playing field---most notably, in the interview Nick Franklin gave to an Orlando TV station a while back.
I fully expect Disney to eventually charge for all fast passes in some capacity.
 
Thank you everyone for your replies.
I guess we jusy need to wait and see what will happen...:confused3
 

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