Standard vs. Preferred

cheyita

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OK - maybe I'm lazy, but I tried the search option and didn't find exactly what I'm looking for. What is the actual difference between standard and preferred views at BWV? Is preferred only views of the boardwalk and all else are standard? I read somewhere that standard have Illuminations views, but as I picture it, shouldn't the boardwalk view also have Illuminations view? Maybe I'm turned around. And are certain rooms closer to the elevator (the biggest complaint I've read, partially thanks to Rich)? Any info would be helpful, and maybe I'll understand layout much better after my first visit there in a couple of months.
 
The preferred view is broken into 2 categories:

Boardwalk - obviously a view of the boardwalk

Preferred - any view with water/pool

Standard is a view of the driveway or parking lot. We've only stayed standard and enjoyed the view. We could see some of the upper fireworks from Illuminations and we weren't real close to the elevator, but didn't mind.

I believe you can see some of the fireworks if you have a Boardwalk view, but someone who's actually stayed there will have to help you more with that.
 
I just got back from BWV and we had a wonderful time. I read your post about being worried a bit w/ the complaints, but we had a last minute trip and got a gorgeous room, huge balcony, and a view of the Luna Pool, the canal, the Swan and Dolphin, and MGM and it's fireworks. I think you will be very pleased. And try out FF and Spoodles as well as your favorites at the Y&B Club. And at the BWV you can get some of their dishes in your room! Pretty cool!

As far as your question...... the MS told me there are 3 selections at the Boardwalk. The Boardwalk view which is a "preferred" view, the other preferred views looking over the pool or canal or gardens (which is what I had...... I asked for the BW view, but no more were available..... I was very pleased w/ the view I got), and standard which look over the entrance to the BW & the parking lots. As far as seeing the fireworks, we'll have to wait to see what other people say. And I know there is a room category list of views for all the resorts, but I don't know where that thread is. I am sure someone will post it in a moment.
 
I didn't think the fireworks from our BW view were that spectacular - you could only see the high ones and from we were ESPN blocked a lot of them.

Standard Views pretty much face the drive. Views of the pool, the canal or the BW are all Preferred view. There are some "crummy" preferred view rooms - and some standard view rooms with excellent views.
 

Thanks everyone. I guess I won't get too worked up over the view - there seems to be good opportunities regardless.

Disney Enthusiast - thanks for all the good advice on both threads. I'm getting excited about staying somewhere new and trying some new restaurants! And the kids - while they love SAB - are excited about the clown slide.
 
Thanks cheyita! That's the spirit! I hope you have a wonderful time and I am looking very forward to reading your post when you return! I'll sprinkle some Pixie Dust for you! :wizard:
 
Cheyita ~
If you get a "non Boardwalk" PV, just make sure you request to have a "pool view" when you make the ressie. I had a PV that did overlook a canal but also a bigger portion of the view was the valet parking lot and service area driveway. So, yes, I had a "water view", but got all those cars and service vehicles to gaze upon as well. My room # was 4131 and it was also almost the furthest room from the elevator. I was disappointed that this was considered a PV room and even called MS upon my return home last summer at the urging of several people here on the board who also felt this should have been a SV room, hoping to get credited the point difference between SV and PV. Didn't happen. I was told it definitely was PV by MS who put me on hold while they spoke directly with BWV. I enjoyed my stay overall at the BW, but just felt a little shorted at being charged PV points for this room. In hindsight, had I known that these types of PV rooms exist, I would have been very specific in requesting a pool view. Live and learn. Just figured I'd pass along the info. Have a nice stay.
 
Dont pay attention to the people who complain. I have been to the BW many times and I dont feel I have ever had a bad view. (Right now I am looking at the inside of a cubical it you know what I mean.) I also think the rooms that are close to the elevators are noisy with the traffic of people coming and going but its not enough to make me have a bad vacation. So it all depends on what you like.
 
Dont pay attention to the people who complain. I have been to the BW many times and I dont feel I have ever had a bad view.
Wow Rick.....sure hope this wasn't directed at my post because I don't see anyone "complaining" here. I was just giving an objective view point. I actually had alot of BWV owners agree with me about being (possibly unfairly) charged PV points for the room I got. It was actually at the suggestion of these BWV owners that got me to call MS. Crisi even mentioned that there are some "crummy" preferred view rooms. If you read my post carefully, I did say "overall" I had a good time at BWV. I just felt that requesting a BW or pool view over settling for perhaps a not-so-nice garden view, might save the OP from a parking lot view that requires PV points. Anyone can take or leave a helpful suggestion, but to suggest the OP "ignore" a person who trying to help is uncalled for. The OP is asking for advice/suggestions, otherwise they wouldn't have posted on a public forum. So I'll just pretend your post was not directed at me ;) ;) ;) ;)
 
Sorry!! I didnt direct that at you. Some times you read posts on here that make me wonder if I am staying the same place that they are. Then factor in someone that has never been to that resort. I was just trying to say that I feel there arent any bad views. Some are just better than others. Again sorry if it sounded like that was pointed at you. I wouldnt do that to anyone.:wave2:
 
Again sorry if it sounded like that was pointed at you. I wouldnt do that to anyone.
That's ok....it's cool Rick :cool:
I honestly didn't feel my view was bad had it been SV point cost. I suppose the fact that I was charged PV points for this room was my only issue. I saw many other much nicer views for PV points (i.e Luna Park pool, quiet pool, Boardwalk).
I really felt my view was better categorized as SV but the BWV CM's disagreed with me. Like I said.....live and learn.
 
That is very true. I always have PV and some should be changed to SV. There arent enough SV rooms there in my opinion. Every time I try to get one they are booked.
 
Someone last year had a PV room that faced the plywood they had up to block of the work they were doing on the Keister Coaster. Not a great PV. And someone else said they got to look at the wall to the Community Hall? But all in all, its Disney and we (at least) don't go for the view out our room. Besides, we all "own" the resort and if they built some "less than good" views into the resort, we all need to take our chances that this trip will be our "turn" in a less than wonderful view.

Although I like (for my benefit) having the SV points available - I think it was a mistake on Disney's part to divide the points in this fashion.
 
We just got back from a Standard view room (3127) and, although it was a looooong walk from the elevator, I believe my feeling for the foreseeable future will be..unless you are flush with points and have nowhere else to spend them...try to get a SV room...if not available, take the preferred. In either event, you are just as likely to end up with a great room at a great resort! :)

BTW 3127 had a very similar view to the PV that Mia paid more points for. Hence my reason for being unconcerned with the difference. Even those SV's overlooking the entrance have their good points....closer access to the bus stop andwatching all our fellow DVCr's arrive (I love people watching).

If you have preferences, by all means make requests (I did and didn't get them), but even if you don't get the requests...enjoy the positives of the room you're in...there are positives about each and every room at the resort.
 
I would not stress over getting a room with a bad view at BWV. The % of villas with bad views at BWV is very small. I have stayed at BWV numerous times over the years in all types of rooms, locations etc and have never had a room with a bad view. There are very few rooms at BWV with a truly bad view.
To be honest, the same report that Maria has posted over again quite a few times on this board since her trip regarding the bad view from her PV villa, is the only time I have ever read of anyone having this experience.
I have also read about a room that overlooks a trailer near the community hall and another room that over looks a roof or something. These few reports are the only negatives I have ever read about regaring a BWV bad view. Considering the number of times I have stayed at BWV and the fact that I have been reading these boards with resort reviews for over 5 years, that is not a lot of negative reports!
Have a great trip to BWV. It is a fantastic resort!
 
Originally posted by new_yawka
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If you have preferences, by all means make requests (I did and didn't get them), but even if you don't get the requests...enjoy the positives of the room you're in...there are positives about each and every room at the resort.

Excellent advice. We have stayed at BWV about 6 times and never had a god awful bad view and we went standard every time except the first. We have overlooked the parking lot and that was fun to people watch, and see some of Illuminations. We had a room overlooking the "roof" but beyond that was a great view of Swan and Dolphin, and we were all the way down the hall looking at a canal , some bushes and the lot beyond. Frankly we did not care. We were home at BWV.

Getting my panties in a bunch about a view is kind of like complaining that the Mona Lisa is too small, IMHO.

After being on these boards for a while, I have come to the conclusion that as a bunch, we DVC'ers tend to be way too high maintenance.
 
my problem with Pref view was that main swimming pool - yes the clown is cute the first time - but by the fifth time I was more than happy to start staying in a standard room.

although with the new bw pref view - I am starting about rethinking my future plans and going back to a preferred view - if the bw is really what they are getting.

we had it once (our first trip) and it was lovely - although the BW was loud at night and I like to have something open - so even in the prefect spot - and believe me the view was wonderful - much better than the YC looking across at it -
 
BTW 3127 had a very similar view to the PV that Mia paid more points for. Hence my reason for being unconcerned with the difference. Even those SV's overlooking the entrance have their good points...
That is really my point----if you're paying SV points the view's not that bad. But I think the fact that I paid PV points for a view that many other paid SV points for was my issue. I wonder what villa # is the cutoff.

To be honest, the same report that Maria has posted over again quite a few times on this board since her trip regarding the bad view from her PV villa, is the only time I have ever read of anyone having this experience.
And I'll continue to post it whenever anyone posts a question about SV vs PV. What's the problem with that ? Just because I'm the only one on these boards that has had this experience doesn't mean it doesn't happen to alot of other people. Newbies join these boards all the time. I think the DVC folks here on these boards are a relatively small representative (percentage) of DVC Members overall. I figure if someone's going to pay PV points, why not steer them away from this particular view ? What's the harm ? I'm not bashing the resort itself ? I wish someone had said something to me about the possibility of getting this type of view before I left for the BWV----and I asked on these boards and noone mentioned it. I've also said "many times" before in my posts that I acknowledge that I felt the majority of PV rooms were very good (BW, Luna pool, quiet pool). I've said that, overall, I had a nice trip there......so I have given credit where credit is due. I just didn't think everyone wanted to hear sugar-coated posts about every resort because every DVC resort has some drawbacks. Don't we all come on these boards to share information and learn/hear about other's personal experience ? I surely thought so. I'm glad noone else has reported having this experience---maybe in some small part it's due to my posts ? Maybe not, but I'll continue to advise people about the possibility of getting this PV room because I truly feel this shouldn't be a categorized a PV. It would have been fine for SV. Maybe DVC shouldn't have made the 2 view distinctions with the BWV, but since they did, why not try and get the best view possible if you have to use PV points ? It's really just a simple bit of advice I'm giving out. Take it or leave it as you will. I'm fine either way. :D
 
Originally posted by MiaSRN62
And I'll continue to post it whenever anyone posts a question about SV vs PV. What's the problem with that ? Just because I'm the only one on these boards that has had this experience doesn't mean it doesn't happen to alot of other people. Newbies join these boards all the time. I think the DVC folks here on these boards are a relatively small representative (percentage) of DVC Members overall. I figure if someone's going to pay PV points, why not steer them away from this particular view ? What's the harm ? I'm not bashing the resort itself ? I wish someone had said something to me about the possibility of getting this type of view before I left for the BWV----and I asked on these boards and noone mentioned it. I've also said "many times" before in my posts that I acknowledge that I felt the majority of PV rooms were very good (BW, Luna pool, quiet pool). I've said that, overall, I had a nice trip there......so I have given credit where credit is due. I just didn't think everyone wanted to hear sugar-coated posts about every resort because every DVC resort has some drawbacks. Don't we all come on these boards to share information and learn/hear about other's personal experience ? I surely thought so. I'm glad noone else has reported having this experience---maybe in some small part it's due to my posts ? Maybe not, but I'll continue to advise people about the possibility of getting this PV room because I truly feel this shouldn't be a categorized a PV. It would have been fine for SV. Maybe DVC shouldn't have made the 2 view distinctions with the BWV, but since they did, why not try and get the best view possible if you have to use PV points ? It's really just a simple bit of advice I'm giving out. Take it or leave it as you will. I'm fine either way. :D
That is fine, you can certainly post whatever you wish. Unfortunately you had the horrible luck to get one of a very few rooms that are right at the cut off point where the points change from Standard to Preferred. I feel bad that you had the rotten luck to get this room and I sincerely wish this had not happened to you but unfortunately it did. However there has to be a cut off point of where the pts charged changes. And due to the shape of the building, it is not an easy judgement call to make as to exactly which rooms will be affected. Yes from your room if you looked a certain way you could see the parking lot off in the distance. And it is a distance since there is the body of water , a lawn, and walkways seperating the building from where the parking lots are. So yes you could see the parking lot in the distance if looking one way but if you looked another way you could see the waterway to MGM, etc. Yes there is also a service road that runs along the waterway but it's not a road like a highway it is a very pleasant view of a pathway next to a waterway where you can see ducks, Friendship boats, people strolling to MGM etc. And yes occasionally a service truck may go by--but it is not like you are looking at trucks and cars whizzing by on the highway. From my many times of overlooking this pathway we have seen people walking, boats etc and occasionally will see a few service vehicles; which mostly include golf cart type vehicles!
My concern is that if a newbie reads your post and does not know the whole layout and scheme of BWV they could possibly avoid a whole section of villas at BWV that has very nice PV rooms because of one of very few villas.
I absolutely love BWV and think it is a fantastic resort but I also have a realistic view of BWV and freely admit it's shortcomings. But having rooms with bad views is really not one of BWV's shortcomings. I have stayed at BWV so many times I honestly can not count the number, and I have had PV villas in approx the same location as your villa and could certainly not see "someone getting something out of a car in the parking lot" --something that you have posted previously!
Again you can post whatever you wish but I know your villa is not a good example of a PV villa located in this section of the building. It would be a shame for someone to avoid a whole section of a building based on your one visit to BWV, staying in one villa.
 
So yes you could see the parking lot in the distance if looking one way but if you looked another way you could see the waterway to MGM, etc. Yes there is also a service road that runs along the waterway but it's not a road like a highway it is a very pleasant view of a pathway next to a waterway where you can see ducks, Friendship boats, people strolling to MGM etc. And yes occasionally a service truck may go by--but it is not like you are looking at trucks and cars whizzing by on the highway.
Well, the parking lot view was about 80% full frontal view. It's all we could see when we were inside the room (i.e. sitting on the bed or whatever). So, it was a little more than just "looking one way" to see it. Yes, we saw ducks....and the Friendship boat (if we looked down and to the right). But the service vehicles and trucks were a little more frequent that you make it seem. No, agreed, nothing like a highway but I never insinuated that either. Still....I felt this room was good for SV points. I just wouldn't consider this a "preferred" view---that's all I'm trying to say.

and I have had PV villas in approx the same location as your villa and could certainly not see "someone getting something out of a car in the parking lot" --something that you have posted previously!
Dee....not making this stuff up. We were waving to my husband in the parking lot getting stuff out of our van----how cool you remembered that from a couple months ago. We saw him clearly---though it was off in the distance and he saw us waving. Maybe you had a slightly different angle of the parking lot than we had ? I can't explain why you didn't see this, but it's not really relevant either. I didn't even bring that up in this post.

But having rooms with bad views is really not one of BWV's shortcomings.
Generally, overall, I agree with u. BUT, these particular PV rooms do exist none the less and why not steer people away from them IF possible ? What's the harm ? I agree the shortcoming here is that BWV charges PV points instead of SV. The view would be fine for SV----just my honest opinion.

My concern is that if a newbie reads your post and does not know the whole layout and scheme of BWV they could possibly avoid a whole section of villas at BWV that has very nice PV rooms because of one of very few villas.
So how should I go about advising someone about rooms such as the one I had ? Since there are so many better PV rooms available at the BWV why not direct someone to them ? I've never bashed the resort to any newbie----only given, what I consider, helpful information about this particular area of rooms. In fact, repeatedly I've said I had a nice stay there and plan to revisit in the future. You may not find my advice beneficial or helpful, but I'm sure there are some that do. I hardly feel my advice here is deterring the OP from staying there. Perhaps, as in my original post on this thread, instead of saying "make sure you request to have a pool view" etc, I should rephrase it to say, "I'd like to suggest you request a pool view based on the fact that you may be assigned to a very small group of not-so-nice PV rooms". Dee, you're a BWV vet, but not everyone knows the in's and out's like you do. I'm only offering my personal experience to be helpful. I have no alterior motives here. I hardly feel anyone would be deterred from staying at the BW based on what I've said here today (or in the past). Cheyita even stated she wasn't going to get "worked up" over the view. The information I gave is there for her (or anyone else) to use if they want to. Maybe some wouldn't mind the parking lot/service view area as a PV. I'm not saying this facetiously. I totally understand this view (actually the PV POINTS that I used for it---I, personally would have been fine paying SV points) may have gotten to me more than the next person. ::yes::
 















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